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[Elios83]

Tarnished crud

 

[Deerock71]

Gigabowser being banned is a blessing for his sake

 

[Rush2112]

Works fine on my steam deck. Nintendo is a one trick pony.

 

[Physiognomonics]

68GB/s of bandwidth in portable mode, like XB1. There won't be any miracles. IQ should be OK with DLSS, but not the framerate in such bandwidth related demanding game.

 

[SNG32]

The switch to will always be home to these pathetic hand-me-down ports, you might as well stick to whatever is made exclusively by Nintendo as most of the third party Giants will miss the platform or you will get sloppy thirds

This!. This I expect trash third party ports and if it doesn't run good devs will blame it on the hardware. I don't see third party devs pushing it to its full capacity the same way they don't do it with PC and Console. Poor optimized third party ports seem to be the future.

 

[bender]

Switch 2 is a beast.

 

[TheChadOfGaming]

fromsoft is just like gamefreak, they make the same game over and over that runs and looks like poop and people buy it no matter what
i am shocked

 

[Deerock71]

Captured on Switch 2:

 

[rkofan87]

Yes but does it run better than the PS5 version

i know right and still no pro patch what a joke.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

i know right and still no pro patch what a joke.

It's CPU limited so I am not sure Pro would help much.

(Maybe the CPU is downclocked too far in Handheld mode)

 

[Woopah]

I expect the switch 2 to have less third party support then switch 1. Can't even imagine a game like monster hunter wilds or dragons dogma how attrocious it would be.

What makes you think it will have less support?

 

[Buggy Loop]

I guess that's why we don't have a release date yet

They better cook by release

From Software seems to be spaghetti code

 

[SNG32]

What makes you think it will have less support?

For third party triple AAA a lot of devs won't support. Chinese developers seem to like PC and PlayStation. Harada was pretty much saying the hardware is inferior to make a port for Tekken.

 

[Baemono]

in Elden Ring it's just normal. all current gen versions run fully unlocked. and it's actually better that way, because the alternative would be badly framepaced 30fps, which would also result in stutters

How the hell this game got a 96 on Metacritic ?

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

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This is standard From Software, the only well optimized game they've made was the PC version of Armored Core 6.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Pitiful. If CDPR can get Cyberpunk working, it just must be hideous code.

This your first From Software game? Of course it's terrible code even Valve called them out on this with Elden Ring.

 

[EN250]

For third party triple AAA a lot of devs won't support. Chinese developers seem to like PC and PlayStation. Harada was pretty much saying the hardware is inferior to make a port for Tekken.

if it sells like crazy it'll have all the third party support it wants, just the quality may vary...

 

[kevboard]

How the hell this game got a 96 on Metacritic ?

because it's a well designed game?
also if you play it on Series X at 120hz, or on PS5 via PS4 back compat, it's absolutely fine perfomance wise.

 

[Spukc]

Shame it ran pretty good on steam deck day 1 even more stable because valve did a thing

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Gross. I just want the Tarnished DLC content for my Xbox version. I don't even care at all about the Switch 2 version.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

For the Nintendo enjoyers here: you'll probably be able to buy a new Valve "console" in a bit of time for less than a S2 costs, it runs the game just as well as a base PS5 (or better) and you know what, the game doesn't cost 80 but maybe like 30 from a key seller. That's of course if you aren't one of the 1% of the userbase who actually uses the turd in handheld mode

 

[Woopah]

For third party triple AAA a lot of devs won't support. Chinese developers seem to like PC and PlayStation. Harada was pretty much saying the hardware is inferior to make a port for Tekken.

But a lot of AAA games skipped Switch, and that never got Tekken either.

 

[RodriGames40]

the GPU performance of the Switch 2 in handheld mode is roughly between the Xbox One and PS4 (more Xbox One than PS4 probabl). so it is what I would expect, sub PS4 performance.

Nah, better than PS4 by a mile. It's 1.7 Ampere TFLOPS, From is likely just inept as fuck at managing the memory bandwidth.

 

[Connificent]

Bamco fucking up the bag

 

[kevboard]

Nah, better than PS4 by a mile. It's 1.7 Ampere TFLOPS, From is likely just inept as fuck at managing the memory bandwidth.

1.7 ampere tflops shouod be around the ballpark of 1.3~1.4 GCN tflops... so that brings it absolutely more in line with the Xbox One.
don't forget the flopflation that happened with Nvidia's dual issue FP32 implementation.

 

[RodriGames40]

1.7 ampere tflops shouod be around the ballpark of 1.4 GCN tflops... so that brings it absolutely more in line with the Xbox One.

What? That makes no sense, the 1650 is Turing (2000 series) and 3 TFLOPS. It fights off the Series S at some workloads even without the superior SM allocation and dual math capabilities of Ampere.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I mean, the game launch on PS5 and Series was pretty bad too. So bad people opted to just play the PS4 version.

 

[kevboard]

What? That makes no sense, the 1650 is Turing (2000 series) and 3 TFLOPS. It fights off the Series S at some workloads even without the superior SM allocation and dual math capabilities of Ampere.

I have not seen any detailed comparisons between these, but I highly doubt that's accurate, especially in well made ports.

 

[Davevil]

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

You don't need to convince me Harry, I was already not going to buy it.

 

[Rivdoric]

From Software are a bunch of incompetent idiots when it comes to technical aspect.
ALL their games are unoptimized poop that lack essential features like games were released 20 years ago.

 

[Codes 208]

I mean, the game launch on PS5 and Series was pretty bad too. So bad people opted to just play the PS4 version.

i remember this. Even df called this out iirc at launch.

 

[Horseganador]

FROM games almost never have very smooth frame rates, so for me to say it's a disaster on Switch 2 it has to be really bad.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

the GPU performance of the Switch 2 in handheld mode is roughly between the Xbox One and PS4 (more Xbox One than PS4 probabl). so it is what I would expect, sub PS4 performance.

Easily fixed by lowering settings and resolution.

 

[kevboard]

Easily fixed by lowering settings and resolution.

yeah, but we know that, for some reason, Fromsoft is allergic to doing that.
they could have had the Series X and PS5 versions run at a locked 60fps (see PS4 Pro version running on PS5)... but descided: "nah let's let it hover around 45fps!"

 

[willothedog]

For third party triple AAA a lot of devs won't support. Chinese developers seem to like PC and PlayStation. Harada was pretty much saying the hardware is inferior to make a port for Tekken.

What are you on about? S2 will sell at least 100m units. If a dev can make the game run on that device, they will, unless they do not like money.

 

[Coconutt]

 

[Ribi]

next gen console btw. Cant even run reused xbox 360 assets

 

[ecosse_011172]

next gen console btw. Cant even run reused xbox 360 assets

 

[lh032]

you finally arrived.

 

[Bry0]

Blaming their dumpster fire engine for that more than the switch. They make great games and have great artists but that engine is crap.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Tarnished Power!

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Well there's no such thing as a well-optimized Fromsoft game. So this is just merely staying consistent

 

[Dr Bass]

How the hell this game got a 96 on Metacritic ?

Because it's a really fun game.

 

[undeadhero]

A shame--if it's as bad as they claim and doesn't get sorted before launch. Cyberpunk is fantastic.

 

[LordOcidax]

you finally arrived.

 

[leo-j]

I expect the switch 2 to have less third party support then switch 1. Can't even imagine a game like monster hunter wilds or dragons dogma how attrocious it would be.

sure jan

can't wait for the eventual port of wilds to the switch 2 in 2026. People think the switch 2 can't do anything, it's a 3TF console with better CPU/ram than a ps4 pro. It can give you ps4+ visuals.

 

[deriks]

They are masters with game design, but hardware they NEVER got good

Kinda ironic, huh!?

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Calling our CRUD GAFer to deny those awful lies.

September 27th can't come soon enough.

 

[ByWatterson]

Third party paradise on Switch 2?