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Elite: Dangerous |OT| Every Man's Sky
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Does anyone know what plans they Frontier has for the game in the future. I know they're working on the "Wings" update which is supposed to make the game more social but is there anything beyond that's known?
I'm only asking because my initial excitement for this game has kinda vanished. I bought a joystick for the first time since the olden days when I used to play X-Wing, Comanche, Falcon, TFX, etc., but after the initial learning curve I've found the game to be pretty shallow and simple.
Tried my hand at bounty hunting and that seemed alright. Go to asteroid belt, find pirates trying to fuck up miners, kill pirates, collect bounty, rinse and repeat.
Then I tried my hand at mining since I enjoyed it enough in Eve Online and thought it would be a cool way to chill, enjoy the cosmos, and make some money. Unfortunately, I've found the economy to be pretty uninteresting since the only things worth any value to miners is palladium, platinum (or titanium?...I forget), gold, and maybe silver if you're desperate. Everything else is worthless it seems. I don't know if it's just bad luck, but apparently metallic rich asteroid belts only have minerals to mine, and the off chance there is some of the metals I've listed the yields are often pretty low and I often deplete the asteroid before I get enough to refine a ton's worth. Maybe I just need to travel further than I already have? Don't know. Besides that, the process of mining is just unfun and not worth the trouble.
I'm thinking of going the explorer route and make my profits that way, however I'm confused about something. Can you only sell cartographic data in unexplored space? If so, is it even worth going down this route this late in the game?
I'm only asking because my initial excitement for this game has kinda vanished. I bought a joystick for the first time since the olden days when I used to play X-Wing, Comanche, Falcon, TFX, etc., but after the initial learning curve I've found the game to be pretty shallow and simple.
Tried my hand at bounty hunting and that seemed alright. Go to asteroid belt, find pirates trying to fuck up miners, kill pirates, collect bounty, rinse and repeat.
Then I tried my hand at mining since I enjoyed it enough in Eve Online and thought it would be a cool way to chill, enjoy the cosmos, and make some money. Unfortunately, I've found the economy to be pretty uninteresting since the only things worth any value to miners is palladium, platinum (or titanium?...I forget), gold, and maybe silver if you're desperate. Everything else is worthless it seems. I don't know if it's just bad luck, but apparently metallic rich asteroid belts only have minerals to mine, and the off chance there is some of the metals I've listed the yields are often pretty low and I often deplete the asteroid before I get enough to refine a ton's worth. Maybe I just need to travel further than I already have? Don't know. Besides that, the process of mining is just unfun and not worth the trouble.
I'm thinking of going the explorer route and make my profits that way, however I'm confused about something. Can you only sell cartographic data in unexplored space? If so, is it even worth going down this route this late in the game?
Going through this a lot of these discussions are over a year old. Do we know if these ideas are going to be implemented?
What worries me is this comment in the mining thread:
"It is sad to see that most of the ideas expressed here, went down in the drain."
These are the official design discussion threads which have been archived because they constitute the design plan going forward. Most of what you see in here is on the table for future patches and DLC.
Exploring is an absolutely terrible money earner. You might cover your costs if you do enough of it.
Mining can be ok, but you need to find good asteroids and the profit is still tiny compared to trading.
Well that's disappointing. How about bounty hunting? Is that profitable enough, and does it evolve beyond stopping at nav beacons/unidentified signal source/asteroid clusters and hoping to find some wanted ships to blow up?
Believe me, I'm not a min/maxer, which is why I'm not going into trading, and what my earlier post mentions I originally wanted to enjoy the game's simulation of the galaxy. But if mining is tedious, and exploring so unprofitable that it barely covers expenses as Shifty suggested, than what's the point when progression of the game is to buy increasingly better ships? Clearly the game has some economic balance issues to work out.
I think I'll try my hand at bounty hunting some more and hope they flesh this game out in the near future because right now it seems like Frontier built a huge sandbox with only a few toys to play with.
flyinpiranha
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Very. But this is excitiing!
(emphasis mine)
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=99493
So Wings will most likely be end of March, not really my cup of tea but maybe I'll get into it. I would rather see more single player stuff fleshed out.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
OMG, 1,000LY routes!
That is a game-changer.
That is a game-changer.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Hm... I think I'm going to shelve this game until 1.2. I've had a great time playing it but I don't have much motivation to continue. My Cobra is dressed to the nines but bounty hunting to buy and equip an Asp would just take forever (and bounty hunting in an Asp won't net me any more money anyway). Trading is an option but it'll burn me out way before then.
I love Elite but it just needs to mature some.
I love Elite but it just needs to mature some.
Bounty hunting is ok. If you're good at combat and have a good ship you could pull in 500k/hr.
Nav beacons/RES are the most profitable other than hunting pirate lords, but you need to be REALLY good to be able to take down elite ranked Anacondas easily and efficiently. Well...either really good or have a kitted out python, which will run you 200m+ at which point you don't need the income from bounty hunting anyway...
Krappadizzle
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Extremely disappointed the update they mentioned in December that will be coming early Jan is now coming Mid-Feb. Boo. I will shelve this game for another month then.
No one ever said "early Jan". They always said Q1. Kill me for juicy bounty if wrong.
Clans, so to speak.
flyinpiranha
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Yeah, I get why people have been impatient, it was "supposed to be" around launch until they pushed it to early 2015. But I'd much rather see them fix what is there first. Accidental crossfire, reputation gains, mission bugs, etc ... all much more important than Wings for me.
I play this game as a single player game mostly so QoL improvements as well as back end fixes are further up my priority list than any MP focus on the game.
I play this game as a single player game mostly so QoL improvements as well as back end fixes are further up my priority list than any MP focus on the game.
Sorry to sound dumb, but that doesn't really mean that much more to me. What do clans mean gameplay wise?
Like a guild, an organization that you and all your friends join and hopefully do stuff together. We don't know any specifics yet.
That timeline is pretty much what I expected, going back to around one substantial update per month, like during alpha/beta (and I expected one month of delays after launch because, damn, they probably really deserved a vacation.).
Mengy
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I'm at the point now in the game where I have a couple million credits in the bank, I own an Asp and it's kitted out fairly well for exploring, and making money isn't much of a priority for me anymore as the Asp is the ship I want for the long haul. My goal for playing right now is getting Elite rank in exploring. So I'm going to be exploring any and every system I can from now on.
Lately I've actually been bopping around exploring in civilized space, I've found lots of systems that apparently no one has ever been in before as you can't buy any data at all for them. You can now since I've explored them! Not making great money doing it but turning a decent profit, so my bankroll is still trending upwards anyway.
I still need to post my pics from my Pleiades Nebulas adventure. Maybe tonight I'll take some time to do that.
Do you have the detailed and advanced scanners? I had both yet on my explorer tab it still shows zero level 2 or 3 scans. Not sure what I missed there as I scanned everything. Maybe you need to get really close?
AbortedWalrusFetus
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So I've been playing this for a little less than two weeks and I am really liking it. I have a 144Hz monitor and with every setting cranked the game is running at 144fps in most cases, and about 100-120fps in resource extraction sites. It's so smooth it feels like I am actually there, and no game as made me more eager for an Oculus Rift than this.
So far I've got about a half a million credits and a fairly well specced out Cobra Mk III. Thus far I have been mostly doing bounty hunting in resource extraction sites because it seems to be the most fun for me. I know the Cobra isn't supposed to be as good as the Viper for this, but I wanted a ship that would be more diverse in function. I have recently purchase a Frame Shift Interdictor module and have somewhat upgraded from just farming resource extraction sites (although they are more consistent, fast money) and started interdicting some big bad wanted people. Last night I interdicted and killed an Anaconda that had a 78,000 credit bounty on it and it felt so good. He got me down to 40% because I forgot to use my shield cell bank before my shields went down, which added to the tension.
So far I've got about a half a million credits and a fairly well specced out Cobra Mk III. Thus far I have been mostly doing bounty hunting in resource extraction sites because it seems to be the most fun for me. I know the Cobra isn't supposed to be as good as the Viper for this, but I wanted a ship that would be more diverse in function. I have recently purchase a Frame Shift Interdictor module and have somewhat upgraded from just farming resource extraction sites (although they are more consistent, fast money) and started interdicting some big bad wanted people. Last night I interdicted and killed an Anaconda that had a 78,000 credit bounty on it and it felt so good. He got me down to 40% because I forgot to use my shield cell bank before my shields went down, which added to the tension.
I have the Rift DK2 and the motion quality is already quite good, even at 75Hz. The low persistence (strobing) OLED makes it like a CRT, but without the flicker thanks to 75Hz. The only reason I don't use it more often is I prefer the higher res on my Swift for trade work.
flyinpiranha
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Pretty much. Mine has been shelved for a while mainly because of the text readability, note taking, alt-tabbing to play something in the background ... just too many distractions and 'needs' outside of the game. I wish it had an in game KB or voice search, that would be ace.
It's not for everybody for sure. But I mainly throw on some comedy standup on youtube in the background or music, or the iPad right next to me. I usually have the game on upstairs and just run up, do a quick 8-10 minute run then back to do something like clean the house, start dinner, play with the dog ... etc.. I don't focus 100% attention on the game when I'm in "trading mode". Basically why my 'potential' 2.5m/hour route can turn into 700k after 1.5 hours.
Strangely, I do enjoy it though. I've always been a type of 'grind'-minded gamer though, so it's enjoyable for me. I can't speak for others.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Exactly the position I'm in. Only thing in my Asp that isn't fully upgraded is the main power plant, which I think is sitting at C or B. Still getting enough juice for my needs and the 30LY jumps are godlike for exploring.
At this point I'm pretty much just roaming around, exploring and picking up the occasional bounty. It's lovely. At some point I would love to get more rep with Alliance, trouble is there doesn't seem to be any actual point at the moment except for flavor.
Watch podcasts/streams on another monitor between runs and keep a kitted out viper at the station for when I feel like a break to the tedium.
It would be tremendously helpful to just be able to set bookmarks for systems. Say 10 slots allowed on a tab in the in-game HUD. Choose one and it plots a course using your fast/efficient preference set on the galaxy map.
Dreams-Visions
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Tracked down one of the CH Products stick and throttle combos, so I'll be joining you boys in a couple of weeks.
I think I'll be doing the same.
edit - Won't even have wings until the end of March at the earliest, definitely a good time to do the above.
Wait, what kind of strange angle is this..? The consensus has always been 90Hz. So why this "don't get too excited!" and "temper your expectations" stuff over known specs all of a sudden? "Only" 75Hz-90Hz...? Why did you insert the word "only" here? Very odd. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Because I was talking to a guy that is playing at 144hz and super eager about the rift.
I agree 75-90 is plenty for us 60 plebes.
NickatNite
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autobzooty
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Have we figured out if there is a way to increase faction reputation without doing missions? Do bounties or trading affect it at all? Trying to make friendly with the Alliance and expand their territory a bit, but I don't know where to begin.
autobzooty
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If I'm doing bounties in a system with both a federation and an alliance station, which faction am I helping by doing bounties? Also, is helping a minor faction always directly helping the major faction they pledge allegiance to?
Sorry for the weird/specific questions, just trying to wrap my head around the game.
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