God I hope so.
Saw these poll numbers on Wikipedia (red is "No") and looks like you may be right. His tantrums are actually aiding the opposing.
Watch him stuff the ballot boxes. He'll become President for life, mark my words.
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Erdogan: Europeans 'will not walk safely' if current attitude persists
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Watch him stuff the ballot boxes. He'll become President for life, mark my words.
Caayn
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Two Turkish mosque organizations in the Netherlands have responded to Erdogan's comments. Both organizations have fifty mosques under them in the Netherlands. The largest, with 145 mosques and controlled by the Turkish government, refused to comment on the matter.
https://www.trouw.nl/religie-en-filosofie/nederlandse-moskeeen-kritisch-over-erdogan~a26c381f/ (Dutch news source)
Yusuf Altuntas - Board member - conservative-Islamic Milli Görüs Mosques said:
Fikri Demirtas - Chairman - Foundation Islamic Centrum Netherlands said:
Trouw said:
https://www.trouw.nl/religie-en-filosofie/nederlandse-moskeeen-kritisch-over-erdogan~a26c381f/ (Dutch news source)
TatteredHat
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Because you are misinformed? What you feel is irrelevant, the EU is a democratic institution.
What this referendum about??
michaelius
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EU won't allow Turkey - current eurocrats didn't spent years rigging system so they can enforce their will on any country in EU only to allow what would be voting superpower.
the short version: giving the president of turkey (Erdogan in this case) a lot more power, so much that he could be considered an absolute ruler.
I'm guessing atatürk rolling in this grave right now
not just rolling, probably rotating fast enough to power half of turkey
ZombiePlatypus
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I can't get over this clown white-knighting human rights. What was his stance on Armenian Genocide again?
"What Genocide?"
andythinkpad
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Why are you guys still talking about EU membership? Turkey has 0% chance to get in even 1 year ago.
I truly pity all tourism related businesses in Turkey. Erdogan throwing around the "dangers of visiting Turkey" like that, he's not even trying to shield them from the fallout now. When the outlook was grim before, it's probably far worse after this little stunt.
It's so sad that we are at a point where the freshly elected German president has to use a good chunk of his first speech to directly address the (for better or worse) legally elected president of Turkey, while said president is throwing around Nazi comparisons and thinly veiled threats like they're going out of style. Yikes.
It's so sad that we are at a point where the freshly elected German president has to use a good chunk of his first speech to directly address the (for better or worse) legally elected president of Turkey, while said president is throwing around Nazi comparisons and thinly veiled threats like they're going out of style. Yikes.
Sidewinder
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Nice threat there Erdolf, such a strong leader, I wish Switzerland had someone like that too!!!1
Napalm_Frank
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Just put more resources to border control, cut the deal and hit him with sanctions and see how beloved he really is after a while.
Last time I was staying in some resort in the Turkish riviera a few years ago already 75% of the hotel guests were Russian.
Will probably be 95% by now.
What about Greece then? The Turkey deal is the only thing that prevents the situation from collapsing.
well i am 100% sure he will win due to cheating. probably russia will help him, since they really love messing with other countries polls.
all his tantrums is to show everyone is enemny of turkey and fueling nationalism. you cant imagine how idiot are his followers ( well think of die hard Trumpers). ppl are losing their jobs, no income, losing their homes yet they still continue tonsupport him. so even if economy gets worse it diesnt change much.
all his tantrums is to show everyone is enemny of turkey and fueling nationalism. you cant imagine how idiot are his followers ( well think of die hard Trumpers). ppl are losing their jobs, no income, losing their homes yet they still continue tonsupport him. so even if economy gets worse it diesnt change much.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'd make a joke that we repelled turks from our walls twice already but we tore them down.
Orniletter
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I don't have to read rightwing / russian propaganda to know that you are full of shit and the EU is more than adequately democratic.
On a similar note, Erdogan and his sheep can get fucked.
ultratruman
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RIP Turkey's economy
CadetMahoney
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I always thought Turkeys tourist industry was RIP for a very long time after the amature coup attempt.
gutter_trash
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it's high time for the EU help Greece and Bulgaria beef up border security, I am serious,
if the EU is to be united and secure, there must be coordinate effort to re-inforce the borders outside of the Schengen Area
if the EU is to be united and secure, there must be coordinate effort to re-inforce the borders outside of the Schengen Area
Don't mind me, suffering from a mild case of Erdowahn.
Let's consider this:
Greece needs money. Badly. And probably, after the long dark age, a lot of infrastructure and everything else.
rEU has all that money and a fear of unwashed immergrents that simultaneously mooch welfare and take away all the jerbs.
Soon, EU will lack the cultural melting pot expertise of ex-colonial UK. And their exalted universities.
So:
The rEU pay Greece to handle the influx of immigrants/refugees. Any person wishing to enter the EU for any reason whatsoever must do so through the hallowed halls of the newly reformed impartial Spartan scholar state.
Those that get accepted get a free education in at least one European language and a basic skillset of their choice (alternatively, re-certification/localisation of pre-existing skills) as well as a "welcome to Europe" basic life skill/ethics/integration package with related certification. rEU pays any and all related expenses, including but not limited to schooling, medical and housing projects, heavy duty farming/food industry subsidies and a vastly improved transportation system, plus a certain fee for every properlyindoctrinated europified ex-immigrant.
Rejects get catapulted across the Bosporus. rEU vows to protect nuGreece from any related backlash (military spending and walls, yay!).
We'd need a good name for this programme. How about the Plataea plan?
How about this. A combined Marshall plan/Turkey deal.
Let's consider this:
Greece needs money. Badly. And probably, after the long dark age, a lot of infrastructure and everything else.
rEU has all that money and a fear of unwashed immergrents that simultaneously mooch welfare and take away all the jerbs.
Soon, EU will lack the cultural melting pot expertise of ex-colonial UK. And their exalted universities.
So:
The rEU pay Greece to handle the influx of immigrants/refugees. Any person wishing to enter the EU for any reason whatsoever must do so through the hallowed halls of the newly reformed impartial Spartan scholar state.
Those that get accepted get a free education in at least one European language and a basic skillset of their choice (alternatively, re-certification/localisation of pre-existing skills) as well as a "welcome to Europe" basic life skill/ethics/integration package with related certification. rEU pays any and all related expenses, including but not limited to schooling, medical and housing projects, heavy duty farming/food industry subsidies and a vastly improved transportation system, plus a certain fee for every properly
Rejects get catapulted across the Bosporus. rEU vows to protect nuGreece from any related backlash (military spending and walls, yay!).
We'd need a good name for this programme. How about the Plataea plan?
Napalm_Frank
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As I said, more resources to border control from all EU members toward the south. Direct some of that deal money to Greece rather than Turkey.
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