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Etrian Odyssey Community Thread: The Ongoing Adventures of Fight and Heal
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lol. He's post game.
Yeah.. I figured as much when he murdered everyone.
Hexer is one of those classes where you want to get their skills to 5/10 quickly. It makes their skills cost more but makes them more reliable so they don't have to use them every turn (maybe). Also maxing out Curse Mastery will help. Also equip with any LUK boosting items.
Don't give up, you've come this far!
I wasn't making any progress though..
How come? You didnt manage to unlock any shortcuts before you were forced back to Etrian?
Benzychenz
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Hey, I want to start this series, should I go 4->U1->U2 or U1->U2->4?
I would say Untold 1 first (Classic mode, not story mode) even though it is not the "best" in the series it is a fun game and you can get introduced to the series with the story of the original, which, while not really tightly connected to the others, nonetheless kind of sets the tone for the whole series in an important way. In a lot of ways I'd rate 4 > U2 > U1 but they're all solid games and the Untolds have niceties that 4 doesn't have. If you were only going to play one EO game ever, I'd say make it 4, but if you're pretty sure you'll like the series and will play more than one game I'd say start with Untold 1 then play them in any order you want from there.
I remember that fight, I think I made it around 40-44
Depends on what you want of the games. Only the untold series have the option for actual characters and focus on character interaction and development. For EO4 and the classic mode of the untold games you have to create your own characters and you only get to see the story through interactions with the NPCs / events on the dungeon/towns, etc.
So basically skip EO4 if you cant stand a game with no defined characters.
Edit: So I wasnt happy with my EOU2 party, after toying around with some characters I went and start a new file with a new party, and I somehow saved over my old savegame... I was already on the 4th stratum.. Oh well, more EO for me I guess
omlet said it all. Play Untold 1 Classic first if you want to experience the proper introduction to the series, or 4 is you'd rather get a smoother difficulty curve and more balanced mechanics.
Ouch.
I would personally recommend starting with 4. The gameplay is far more important than the story in this series, so start with the game with the most refined gameplay. 4 is pretty much the perfect game to start with.
You should have just created more characters in your main file. D:
Well, I'm assuming you're not on story mode with how you worded that, but even then you could just use the class change. D:
You should have just created more characters in your main file. D:
Well, I'm assuming you're not on story mode with how you worded that, but even then you could just use the class change. D:
I felt Untold 2 was a big improvement over Untold 1. It had better class setups to choose from (like fixed Ronin stances, the Princess class from EO III, and the Highlander class from Untold 1) and its Grimoire Stones were changed to be much easier to use.
Never tried Persona Q since I heard some Persona background was needed for it.
Never tried Persona Q since I heard some Persona background was needed for it.
About my savefile. I had plenty of characters on my old savefile and I was trying them around. I just wanted a new game with the new party for fun.
That's because for the original game (and untold classic mode) the game tries to hide its story for a long while until suddenly it says "You thought you were just dugeon crawling for no reason? you thought wrong!"
In IV for example, the story is used in a way to make the player push forward, as it is often left in some sort of cliffhanger at the end of one dungeon or the start of the next. I do not think either Untold game does this
Also, try to finish the 4th stratum before dropping the game. At least at the 3rd stratum the game starts showing that there is something going on behind the scenes.
That's because for the original game (and untold classic mode) the game tries to hide its story for a long while until suddenly it says "You thought you were just dugeon crawling for no reason? you thought wrong!"
In IV for example, the story is used in a way to make the player push forward, as it is often left in some sort of cliffhanger at the end of one dungeon or the start of the next. I do not think either Untold game does this
Also, try to finish the 4th stratum before dropping the game. At least at the 3rd stratum the game starts showing that there is something going on behind the scenes.
Untold 2 is a lot better than Untold 1, if you don't care much about the very small connections between the two I'd say go with Untold 2 first.
Persona Q is a pretty cool mix of Persona and EO, thanks to the setting there are some interesting dungeons that would never show up in EO. It probably will appeal to you more if you are into P3 and P4, but it's still a good game.
Persona Q is a pretty cool mix of Persona and EO, thanks to the setting there are some interesting dungeons that would never show up in EO. It probably will appeal to you more if you are into P3 and P4, but it's still a good game.
Yeah, but the 3rd stratum so far is annoying as fuck.
True, but at least there is not a 5th floor. I mean there is but its a big room to fight the boss.
E_Darkness
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Less than a month till Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold in Europe!
Urgh
I don't even live in Europe and I get the same treatment. :/
E_Darkness
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Being non American is our punishment. We don't deserve freedom.
Do the later EO games have less annoying 6th stratums? Or, at least, do they stop putting such awful teleport puzzles in them? I've been trawling through the 6th stratum of EO2, and teleport puzzles are the bane of my existence. Granted, EO2's 6th stratum isn't near as awful as the first game's, but when I see rows of teleporters it just makes me upset.
Why don't we all just buy the JP release, no waiting at all in that case!
I do not own a Japanese 3DS and I only know English.
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_/¯All 6th stratums hold nothing back, EOIV has something similar, but is far less tedious since
if you step on a bad spot you're just sent back to the start of the room, you can't see where the bad spots are but it doesn't feel as aimless.
You won't see something exactly like that teleport maze unless you decide to play SMT: Strange Journey. Unless they brought that back in EO2U's post game, I haven't gone through that yet.
EOIV 6th stratum is pretty bad, it has rooms that hide your party icon in the map and turns off auto painting of the places you walk. Also it has a tile that rotates you around a random amout of times and you are forced to walk on top of them. On top of that the rooms are symetrical so whenever you step on one of those tiles doesnt matter where you end up, it looks the same
Yeah, I meant III, and I cant remember since it was a long time ago but I think any tile would have a random amount of spins compared to other tiles. I dont think all of them had the same amount of spins.
Each tile has a set number of time it would spin and a set direction. It would feel random if you're not double checking them, but it's just a puzzle and you can get through them fast if you leave the right notes.
EO3 postgame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
Oh, you just got there? Im so sorry.
Eh, I dont find it that much diferent. The classes have changed a little bit, Troubadours cant heal because that is on the Soverign class now. Ronin cant heal anymore but their stances are better now.
Personally I had more fun with EOU because of the diferences on the skills. If I took the same party from EOU into EOUII it wouldnt work anymore.
What you dont like about EOU now? If it is the dugeon crawling that is killjing you then you may want to go EOIV instead, for III and IV the reduced the floors and added some overwrold play to break the dugeon crawling a bit, in EOIII is more of a side game but for EOIV it is part of the main game. It makes for a much better pace imo.
Now, as much as I had fun with the series, there is always a low point on the dungeons: for EOU and EOUII is the 3rd stratum for me. For EOIII it was the 4th. For EOIV it was the 3rd. This super low point is when I'm always about to quit, but it really picks off after that point.
It didnt feel that bad in EOUII 3rd stratum but that's because I bought the dlc and used the "increased exp" buff to finish that dungeon much faster. Then I got to the boss.....
Yes.
EOU2 is better in a few ways (grimoire system is improved, a few classes like Ronin get some tweaks for the better) but I wouldn't call it a far superior game. EOU1's classic story (not to be confused "Story Mode" which EOU2 does do better), dungeons overall (from a gameplay perspective, not from an aesthetic perspective)
dat cherry tree bridge tho
If you're not enthused by what you've seen so far in EOU1 you may run into the same problem with any game in this series. There are definitely some refinements between U1 and U2 but if you're not engaged by the gameplay itself in EOU1 then I'm not convinced they'd be enough to hold your attention because the core of these games is really the same in each entry.
I prefer EO2U mainly due to the number of classes and more fun options like War Magus and Sovereign. Also, gamplay-wise EO2U is superior to EOU, with better grimoires, restaurant minigame, dungeon design and the new dungeon being available in Classic. The only thing EOU does better is the story reveal, and that is ruined with Story mode.
Sovereign are really cool. My old main party had a Palm Alch that was my "damage dealer" but the Sovereign would out damage her with her Links most of the time. It was funny, but at the same time made me realize my party sucked. Too bad they took away the heals from the Troubador in this game. It makes sense since that role is now on the Sovereign but still.
Edit: I really dont like the restaurant minigame. I feel like I'm not playing anything related to EO when I'm doing that. At least for EOIII the sea was kind of like the dungeons but the restaurant feels too disconected to the main game for me.
Or play Persona Q, which has a different vibe and cool dungeon designs.
Palm Alch seems more for sustained dungeon crawling than boss killing. Compression Alch totally out-damages it easily, but drains TP fast. Too bad you can't switch builds on the fly.
Palm Alch seems more for sustained dungeon crawling than boss killing. Compression Alch totally out-damages it easily, but drains TP fast. Too bad you can't switch builds on the fly.
That is mostly how it worked. I still felt my damage output was too low without Grimores to boost the skills. It relied too much on the second palm and the splash to actually make damage to the point where the Sovereign would be the one that do most of the heavy lifting with no time to set up for buffs. THe alch was also too easy to 1hit ko to the point that the tank didnt had time to use buffs because the alch would die. Basically no one had time to use buffs. Also it didnt help that my backrow was a Sniper and a Gunner.