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Dragon Age: Veilguard |OT| 'Oof': A non-buynary return to form

Flabagast

Member
So how is the story is in this now that a little time has passed ?

Is the lore as in-depth and interesting as past entries ?
 

Complistic

Member
So how is the story is in this now that a little time has passed ?

Is the lore as in-depth and interesting as past entries ?
The story is pretty basic and the lore is oddly deep in certain areas and then shallow in others. About 12 hours in, it's very inconsistent. I still think it's a better game than 2 or inquisition so do with that what you will.
 
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Alex11

Member
I think there's a custom difficulty option that allows you to increase AI aggressiveness but maintain the normal health pool. Haven't tried this myself but I may do so soon. Combat is getting a bit too easy for me too.
Yeah, I saw the custom settings, but those would artificially make the gameplay harder or easier, there's nothing that could really change the gameplay that much, at core it would be the same.

The companions would still be just another ability, they would still not die and thus you'd still heal endlessly, enemy variety would be the same, the same primed combos and hacking either at HP or stagger.
And just lol at that prevent death button at the lowest difficulty.
 

dok1or

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dok1or

Member
People who dont like this game are worrying too much about game they don't like.

"I must tell Carl that he cant love this game!! CARL, stop playing this game, CARL you dont love this game, this game is shit, CAAAARL!!"
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I can't play female chars in rpg's. No idea how you guys do it.

Anyway might as well post my char as well, although it's an old screen and I've given him a bigger beard.

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For some reason medieval fantasy games (eg all Dragon Age, Skyrim etc) with character selections are always default to a female character for me.

But more modern or futuristic ones are male (eg Mass Effect or other modern character creating games like Saints Row). I don't know why my brain defaults to that, it's always been like that.
 

GymWolf

Member
Is it me or the hard lock on work like shit and lose its target every 5 sec?

Like these green ghost at the beginning move a couple of meters and the lock on dissolve...

Is there an option to fix this that i missed?
 

GymWolf

Member
I'm a mage as well and never used hard lock because the camera is wobbly, the auto soft lock never failed me.
I only had like 4-5 fights but the soft lock doesn't seems to actually lock the camera and doesn't make me circle around the enemy like a normal hard lock should do, but i was still trying to learn the basics during the chaos so maybe it flew over my head, i don't particularly like soft locks for ranged combat because it feels like the game decide what enemy to lock on if they are close to each other, i like to lock on only one enemy at time and circle around while i blast him.

The camera seems fine with the hard lock on (when it doesn't disengage), i rarely play mage in games so i need to digest the whole thing yet.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I capped my CPU wattage to 120 watts in the intel extreme tuning utility and while it still goes above 120 watts to around 170 watts during the shader recompilation step, and in some loading screens, it mostly stays at 120 watts during gameplay. im still getting 60 fps so didnt lose much. had to turn off ray tracing because it was killing my framerate in the forest level with all the water even before the cap to 120 watts.

Now my temps are around 65-72 degrees, game is still a locked 60 fps, and my room doesnt feel like a sauna. i have noticed some minor stutters every now and then that i didnt before, but its ok. id rather not kill my cpu running it at 80 degrees for hours everyday.
 

GymWolf

Member
I capped my CPU wattage to 120 watts in the intel extreme tuning utility and while it still goes above 120 watts to around 170 watts during the shader recompilation step, and in some loading screens, it mostly stays at 120 watts during gameplay. im still getting 60 fps so didnt lose much. had to turn off ray tracing because it was killing my framerate in the forest level with all the water even before the cap to 120 watts.

Now my temps are around 65-72 degrees, game is still a locked 60 fps, and my room doesnt feel like a sauna. i have noticed some minor stutters every now and then that i didnt before, but its ok. id rather not kill my cpu running it at 80 degrees for hours everyday.
Thank god i invested on a super fresh case wjen i made my last build so temps are almost never a problem.
But after your multiple posts i also keep the AC on when i play this stupid game just for precaution :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

I can almost run the thing at locked 120 frames with framegen and rtx on selective, kinda ok for how it looks (decent but hardly impressive).
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Thank god i invested on a super fresh case wjen i made my last build so temps are almost never a problem.
But after your multiple posts i also keep the AC on when i play this stupid game just for precaution :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

I can almost run the thing at locked 120 frames with framegen and rtx on selective, kinda ok for how it looks (decent but hardly impressive).
I never have issues with temps. this game is bugged. Whats your CPU? Check your wattage and temps.

Most AMD cpus were maxing out at 100% and running at 80-90 watts in this game according to steam forums.
 

GymWolf

Member
I never have issues with temps. this game is bugged. Whats your CPU? Check your wattage and temps.

Most AMD cpus were maxing out at 100% and running at 80-90 watts in this game according to steam forums.
I have a 13600k not overclocked.

The pc haven't crashed while playing and you told me that you had 2 crashes already so i think i'm ok.

I also remember that you had temps problem after reaching a certain part of the game so maybe i'm not there yet.
 
I can't play female chars in rpg's. No idea how you guys do it.
Women are more attractive to look at and listen to? Better outfits. I have to be a dude all day in real life, so why do it in a game. I also don't want to play a game where I am a law clerk instead of a ninja or whatever.

Imagine a game where you can choose to play as either a rock or a gummy bear.
 
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The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
Women are more attractive to look at and listen to? Better outfits. I have to be a dude all day in real life, so why do it in a game. I also don't want to play a game where I am a law clerk instead of a ninja or whatever.

Imagine a game where you can choose to play as either a rock or a gummy bear.

I have a different mindset. I play games to immerse myself in them. Just like superhero movies, I prefer them with Spider-man, Iron-man, etc. dont give a shit about any female ones. Can't imagine or immerse myself as being a hero if its not a male, like myself. Simple as that. That being said, I dont mind every once in a while strong female main chars or heroes.
 

Alex11

Member
I capped my CPU wattage to 120 watts in the intel extreme tuning utility and while it still goes above 120 watts to around 170 watts during the shader recompilation step, and in some loading screens, it mostly stays at 120 watts during gameplay. im still getting 60 fps so didnt lose much. had to turn off ray tracing because it was killing my framerate in the forest level with all the water even before the cap to 120 watts.

Now my temps are around 65-72 degrees, game is still a locked 60 fps, and my room doesnt feel like a sauna. i have noticed some minor stutters every now and then that i didnt before, but its ok. id rather not kill my cpu running it at 80 degrees for hours everyday.
You have a 3080 no? Did you get 60fps before with RT on at 4K?
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You have a 3080 no? Did you get 60fps before with RT on at 4K?
Not in all areas. I saw drops and time a big body of water came on screen but those were gpu related.

Game ran fine at 4k dlss balanced in other areas with rt on.
 

Alex11

Member
Not in all areas. I saw drops and time a big body of water came on screen but those were gpu related.

Game ran fine at 4k dlss balanced in other areas with rt on.
That's how I played it at first, 4K DLSS Balanced with RT on, but I went down to Perf and RT off, because something felt off, even with FrameG on.
But yeah, not everywhere, in the cities it ran well, but in forested areas, that's where the problems happened.

Maybe because of my CPU, I have a Ryzen 5600x and since this game is heavy on the CPU, I guess.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Beach level looks really good. Maybe slightly better than the Uncharted 4 beach levels so still last gen, but still one of the more striking levels in an otherwise underwhelming looking game.

That's how I played it at first, 4K DLSS Balanced with RT on, but I went down to Perf and RT off, because something felt off, even with FrameG on.
But yeah, not everywhere, in the cities it ran well, but in forested areas, that's where the problems happened.

Maybe because of my CPU, I have a Ryzen 5600x and since this game is heavy on the CPU, I guess.
definitely your CPU. i saw the same issues in starfield. Zen 2-4 CPUs are straight up trash in CPU heavy games especially compared to their intel counterparts which were power hungry and had bad temps but had enough power to run these games at high framerates. Im complaining about temps but apparently 80 is fine according to some steam users, and the fact that my cpu is able to consume 160 watts to get a solid 60 fps is kinda impressive.

I dont think im missing much with RT turned off. The regular SSR reflections are fine. the water doesnt look as good but thats ok. its rare and only in the forest and beach levels.
 
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Alex11

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definitely your CPU. i saw the same issues in starfield. Zen 2-4 CPUs are straight up trash in CPU heavy games especially compared to their intel counterparts which were power hungry and had bad temps but had enough power to run these games at high framerates.
Yeah, but it's weird, as up until this game, never had a problem CPU wise and I see the 5600x all the time with all kinds of CPU related tests as being not that far behind some heavy weights, considering how dirt cheap is.
I'm considering an upgrade next year, although it would be hard which to pick.
I dont think im missing much with RT turned off. The regular SSR reflections are fine. the water doesnt look as good but thats ok. its rare and only in the forest and beach levels.
Definitely not, in the beach levels there isn't such a difference as the forest ones, the best one up until this point and where it might be worth it, is in Antiva.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm well on the way to get the 1000G / 100% completion for this and enjoying my time with the game.

Really damn shame how one character and questline has sunk the entire game in the eyes of a big portion of the internet. Remove that and this is a fantastic title and a great fourth Dragon Age game. The plot is touching things all the way from the first game, there's very decent Inquisition plot and character representation as well.

Yes, this includes some dodgy dialogue as well, but which western RPG doesn't have its share of goofy dialogue.
 
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Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I'm well on the way to get the 1000G / 100% completion for this and enjoying my time with the game.

Really damn shame how one character and questline has sunk the entire game in the eyes of a big portion of the internet. Remove that and this is a fantastic title and a great fourth Dragon Age game. The plot is touching things all the way from the first game, there's very decent Inquisition plot and character representation as well.

Yes, this includes some dodgy dialogue as well, but which western RPG doesn't have its share of goofy dialogue.
I got bored around 20 hours in. Felt like I made one decision that mattered and on hard the combat never challenges you. It’s just very rinse repeat without much thought.

In a lot of ways the game is like final fantasy 16 where prior entries rpg elements felt either watered down or totally stripped away.

I stopped right when I’m supposed to get that trans character and this whole time I thought it was a male but it’s apparently a female? The island water level seems good to look at though.

I’ll be curious what GAF thinks as they press on. I had fun for my 20 hours though but not compelled to go any further.
 
Women are more attractive to look at and listen to? Better outfits. I have to be a dude all day in real life, so why do it in a game. I also don't want to play a game where I am a law clerk instead of a ninja or whatever.

Imagine a game where you can choose to play as either a rock or a gummy bear.

There is a character in Dragon Age that has some good news for you!
 

raduque

Member
I stopped right when I’m supposed to get that trans character and this whole time I thought it was a male but it’s apparently a female?
Do you HAVE to keep that character in your party? And can you be an asshole to them without your entire party ending up hating you?

I was playing it and just got back to the forest level after leaving the Lighthouse for the first time, so I haven't meant that poorly written character yet.
 

Arsic

Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Do you HAVE to keep that character in your party? And can you be an asshole to them without your entire party ending up hating you?

I was playing it and just got back to the forest level after leaving the Lighthouse for the first time, so I haven't meant that poorly written character yet.
No clue. I’m sure you can avoid their side story, but none of the choices in the game ever let you be mean to anyone no matter the circumstance. It’s an illusion of dialogue choice.

The only moment I’ve had a real choice up to 20 hours was which town I wanted to let get fucked up and which not.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I gotta say i really enjoy just doing side quests in areas i unlock. lots of good loot. sadly the beach area which is my favorite mostly only unlocks loot for Trash so it was kind of a waste of time outside of xp.
 

Luipadre

Member
Is the first patch out yet? Wonder if its gonna fix some issues with the Pro version, but i doubt. Gonna check out how distracting it actually is or its just a rare issue
 
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GymWolf

Member
Damn thank you that was driving me nuts.
Have you solved? I turned it off but the hard lock on is still dogshit terrible and lose the target every 3 sec.
I switched to the warrior class because i thought being closer to the enemy could have helped but no, even in melee distance the lock on does the fuck it wants...
 
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