For all the shortcomings EO1 has thanks to the improvements on the sequels, It really has the best story in the series. Though for me, my biggest problem with 1 and even 2 is the lack of Battle Speed option, after having it in 3 and 4, its slightly hard to go back.
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Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan |OT|: Fight & Heal Brings 3D To Europe!
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For all the shortcomings EO1 has thanks to the improvements on the sequels, It really has the best story in the series. Though for me, my biggest problem with 1 and even 2 is the lack of Battle Speed option, after having it in 3 and 4, its slightly hard to go back.
Alex
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Skip the original, play 2 then 3 for standard reiterations sake. If you've exhausted those two and perhaps options on other platforms, then go back and slum it a bit with the original. It's certainly not bad, but it is dated and a bit obnoxious in spots. Still probably better than any of the other modern Japanese traditional crawls though.
As some folks said, it does try a bit harder with it's plot, but it's still not good nor is it a boon, IMO, for this subgenre to have a plot anyway.
True the plot wasn't incredible, but I liked the twist and really changed how I viewed the game. It was part of why I grew to love the series so, and I'm kinda disappointed the rest of the series didn't even try to come close to it.
I would actually like it if Altus revisited the first game and bring in the improvements made in the later games. And better graphics of course.
Alex
Member
Quality isn't my concern just so much as I don't really want a story beyond some light context in my dungeon crawlers and to be left alone. It wasn't offensive, and I wouldn't shy away from it, so it'd be fine but I'd prefer if they doled it out in an alternative manner if it was a goal rather than just giving the game a straight up story.
I'm not sure where I want the series to go, certainly no remakes or anything, personally. Ultimately I want them to keep building in a linear nature, especially after IV because IV is one of the best dungeon crawlers I've ever played but I wouldn't mind a shake up. Although, my idea of a shake up would be maybe a Sci-Fi EO or something :lol
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Life screwed me over and I haven't been able to play, I'm starting tomorrow.
It's been the worst month ever, I want to level my dancer ;-;
It's been the worst month ever, I want to level my dancer ;-;
After all this time, I thought you left me for good ='(
dunno the details about your life but I'm here, as your fellow dancer loving buddy.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I've been busy, but I'm a EO fanatic(not as crazy as scy) and I'm here to stay.
And the dancer is my favorite class ever(Princess was my fav before)
Muahaha welcome to real EO.
whiterabbit
Member
A quest boss is almost like a post game boss...for the main game...can be tough.
whiterabbit
Member
Any tips for food to eat before final boss (maze 5)? Or accessories to mitigate damage.
I tried eating dragon carp to raise ele resistance... Not sure if that helped.
Yeah, it's a lot harder on normal difficulty.
I tried eating dragon carp to raise ele resistance... Not sure if that helped.
Yeah, it's a lot harder on normal difficulty.
I feel ya ;__; EO4/math has been my "I hate everything less for the time being" for the past week or so.
I'm not that crazy.
Maybe.
I refuse to remove my Dancer.
whiterabbit
Member
Well, I beat the final boss. Nobody replied, but I didn't really need any help. Just took a few tries.
I beat it with N, L, I / D, S.
Current levels
70 N, 70 L, 69 S, 71 D, 67 I
I got to say, I like my Dancer too. Wide Dance is very useful for Attack Tango. I put Healing Step on him for the last battle.
I'm going to level up to 99 for the postgame before I retire anybody for the maximum benefit.
Right now my original team from my first playthrough (this was my NG+) are:
97 S, 93 R, 93 A, 88 B, 89 I.
So it seems like I'm missing a Medic and Fortress. My highest level M is 21, F is 41. Maybe I'll use the trainers for that.
On to the post-game!
I beat it with N, L, I / D, S.
Current levels
70 N, 70 L, 69 S, 71 D, 67 I
I got to say, I like my Dancer too. Wide Dance is very useful for Attack Tango. I put Healing Step on him for the last battle.
I'm going to level up to 99 for the postgame before I retire anybody for the maximum benefit.
Right now my original team from my first playthrough (this was my NG+) are:
97 S, 93 R, 93 A, 88 B, 89 I.
So it seems like I'm missing a Medic and Fortress. My highest level M is 21, F is 41. Maybe I'll use the trainers for that.
On to the post-game!
I'm out of here.
But they are so moe!
I prefer to have my dancer on the same row as my main attackers, so I don't have to waste turns doing Wide Dance, but I don't really see anyone else that can do back row.
Anyway, 70 is an ok level for the final boss, I guess you were having a hard time because of lack of damage mitigation. Guard Tango would have helped, or frequent use of binds and ailments to lock her down. I don't know what food to eat, but she does both electric and ice damage so yeah.
whiterabbit
Member
Yeah, I did bring my Dancer up front while my Nightseeker was using throws from the back row. The Dancer is the only other class besides Sniper that can use a bow, so Dancers do have some use for the back row though.
Anyways, yeah, I found I took more damage than my casual playthrough. That's the main difference. The boss has an attack that nukes majorly when the hands pull up in front of the face. I didn't really prepare for that. I think you can stop that attack, which kills almost everybody, if you kill the hands.
I believe it's Fire and Volt damage. Although...I think they also might be some type of physical damage as well...
Now that I've gotten everyone to level 80, it's time to retire everyone, subclass them, reequip them and start New Game+ with a fresh team. Since my last one was big on defense with a Fortress and binding Sniper, I think I'll go for something with a more offensive approach, like:
- I/N - elemental and non-elemental drives for big upfront damage,
- N/I - status effects, plus charge gauntlets, plus a big drive promises to do monstrous damage
- B/N - nonstop, nearly invincible upfront attacker without any warmup or cooldown times
- R/I - wide-area damage, elemental protection and Imperial support
- A/M - binding circles this time, Dismiss Heal/Blast and passive between-fights healing
If you can't take out the hands in that turn (you need to take out both hands), it's better to just defend. You'll reduce a lot of the damage, and that's the only attack she'll do that turn.
I am running a similar lineup for my postgame, but I am finding my defense lacking, especially in the 6th maze. It's doable, and you can kill things very fast, but you just have to be prepared for a unlucky dice roll taking down one of your guys. I like my XP bars to be even >.<
I switched out my NS for a Dancer for the support dances, which helped a lot.
whiterabbit
Member
It's amazing how many different parties there are, and they are all very viable. NG+ is pretty fun. Although, leveling up new recruits without doing a new game, might be just as fun...in another way.
Even with a Fortress/Dancer doing line refresh/party shield and a Sniper binding, I was still getting status-effected regularly in the 6th maze and my poison-focused Arcanist/Medic would have to come to the rescue (if possible). So this time around I'm going to have my Arcanist try binding circles to see if it'll shut them down any better. The extra points for retiring shouldn't hurt either.
whiterabbit
Member
Just in case you weren't using it, there's a food you can eat if you have the medic with the poison food skill... Rare plant from Land 4 that increases all status resistance.
ChickenHunter
Member
Any tips for the final boss? I've managed to get it down to the "core" once but had run out of TP and I couldn't do enough damage to it before its head regened. Everyone in my party is around level 59, but I almost feel like I am underleveled.
Using food more is another thing I should do on my second playthrough. It's like an easy reward for flying through the lands to the maze instead of just warping to the pole, but I kept forgetting about it.
Bring Amaritas.
Fight the Dragons again I guess. You'll need to sleep a lot for that.
God hate the enemies in the 6th maze. Hollow + lion = death.
whiterabbit
Member
What's your party? If you're still having trouble, you might need to level up a bit and upgrade your gear.
No kidding. Binding a lion's head shuts down their worst attack, but even making the attempt wakes them up - and then you're not binding Hollow legs instead. Almost as bad are those revenging blobs that'll grow to full strength and hit everyone with a big elemental attack when one of the enemies is killed. Head binding shuts them down too, but I've only got one Sniper.
That's part of the reason I'm switching to a binding Arcanist the second time around.
ChickenHunter
Member
My party is L/R I/B D/N , A/M R/I. I leveled up a couple times and did better, think I'll upgrade some gear and then try again.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
whiterabbit
Member
I was almost level 70, the stat bonuses probably would help you. Because the party looks great.
whiterabbit
Member
DFC has never been my thing, tbh.
Dancer is awesome though so whatever~ Loved my Prince(ss) in EO3 as well.
In all honesty, I find Curse to just not be that useful of an effect in general so I rely on Poison for a high chance and then Sleep, Paralyze, or Blind basically equally. But I also have a Level 99 Nightseeker that was retired at 99 and have the points to spare.
I want to say Sleep is resisted less than Paralyze for some odd reason but I haven't really spammed skills on everything ;_;
And, yes, Ailment Boost works on Nightseeker throws. And Sniper Binds. And Weapon Forges.
Remember, it's a flat addition after LUC and TEC calculations and Resistances.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Yet another quest question... again, fourth land.
*tries to follow coordinates only to find the ping value going from 1, 2, and then to 0. Notices that it'll restart starting from point 1.*
There are more than 3 points (7 in all IIRC). Try following the ridge and checking all the dead ends.
This is one of the more confusing quests.
To be fair, the quest tells you that
. It's still kind of awkwardly worded though.
But, yeah,
.
you have two points and that's 25% of the way there
But, yeah,
there's seven total points on the ridge (+ the mark itself, for eight total). Just start from the bottom and basically check every tile on the pathway there until you reach the end. Make sure to check the "dead-ends" as well
whiterabbit
Member
Hmm most useful respawns are 14 days except ice pincers which are 3...
Ancient Keeper, the ones around Echoing Library
Oh I didn't realize that they were different.
I'm pretty sure the aura colors are just based on the difference between your party's level and the FOE's. If it's red, you can try to beat them and might succeed if your party is setup and equipped well enough. But I wouldn't attempt it without a very recent save.