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[Eurogamer] Employees at FromSoftware owner Kadokawa reportedly "thrilled" about possible Sony takeover; UPDATE: Sony confirms acquisition interest.
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DenchDeckard
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nial
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Good point; companies of this size, especially Japanese ones, don't go about making public statements like these unless things are basically done BTS.
They wouldn't want to risk losing face out of something backfiring so publicly.
Record time, too.
All $5?
Plus Kadokawa are wanting to sell, they want a buyer. So out of the options, Sony are probably the best one.
I guess the only other similarly great option would be Kadokawa merging with a similar-sized Japanese company, but I don't know what options there's be aside mainly gaming-orientated publishers like Koei-Tecmo or Square-Enix.
Well...I guess Square-Enix considering they have focus in some anime & visual novel stuff too, but I don't think they can manage a merger of Kadokawa's size anywhere near Sony can manage an acquisition of similar.
People been complaining about how Sony should have more japanese games.
Now it's a problem when they might acquire From Software.
It's because those people are liars. They want other companies to compete by buying up as many big 3P publishers & IP as possible, but only if those companies are one company worth $3 trillion.
But they only want SIE to compete by buying small no-name studios with no IP to their name, spending 5-6 years to build up a potential Concord that's unalived after six weeks. Because they know you can't "compete" that way versus big competitors buying up all the big 3P content your platform relies on for revenue & market share.
Some of these people are too stupid or cowardly to admit it but they just want to see PlayStation be dependent & subservient to big mega-conglomerates (especially MS) who can make it hard or impossible for SIE to do marketing deals or exclusivity with that content, or pressure PlayStation to the whims of the mega-conglomerates with those titles just to get what they want.
And that's definitely happened before; EA did it with SEGA back in the day, even though things were a bit different (SEGA being a smaller player and needing 3P support against NES & SNES). PlayStation may be the biggest console platform (or tied if including Nintendo) but companies like MS owning a lot of the big IP PlayStation relies on for driving install base growth & revenue can put them in a position like EA had with SEGA. The only way SIE avoid that is by also acquiring big IP to balance things out some.
Put it this way: say SIE is Saudi Arabia and PlayStation is oil. PlayStation's the biggest oil platform in the world, and America depends on that oil. Now let's say Microsoft is America. Why do you think America can put sanctions and so much pressure on Saudi Arabia despite depending on them for oil? Because of all the other assets America has that Saudi Arabia doesn't. That's a sort of dynamic companies like MS are trying to create in the market onto platforms like PlayStation through seeking out big gaming M&As.
Loomy
Banned
This is the kindest, most professional "GTFO and let us work" I've ever read lol.
I'm happy for Sony if it happens, but I hope and pray that Sony will not turn Kadokawa especially From software into a GAAS and live service focus and also not turn it into twisted woke infested. And I hope its still under Japan leadership and base in Japan, not the woke infested Sony west.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It's not gonna give them more Japanese games. It might just remove them from other platforms.People been complaining about how Sony should have more japanese games.
Now it's a problem when they might acquire From Software.
Astray
Member
I honestly never put too much credence in these kinds of reports. Never did for the ABK thing nor will I do so here.
Like if I'm a Kadokawa employee, my feelings on this would probably significantly differ if I'm in the light novel divisions vs if I'm in Famitsu or something else that's tertiary to Sony's interests.
Like if I'm a Kadokawa employee, my feelings on this would probably significantly differ if I'm in the light novel divisions vs if I'm in Famitsu or something else that's tertiary to Sony's interests.
Topher
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One of the reasons why I'm against these acquisitions is that I think it is inevitable that the big execs are eventually going to start mucking around with the studios. I'm not a From fan, but many are and I hate seeing what happens to top notch studios like what happened to Bioware and Blizzard. I'd like to think Sony will just leave From be and make games how they want, where ever they want. Just have a hard time seeing that happen though.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Shit happens. And it's going to be a Japanese studio added to Playstation Studios.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah, so your argument that it's gonna be more Japanese games for Sony makes no sense. It's not like From were going to skip PlayStation, so we're back to people bitching about not enough Japanese games because adding From to their studios isn't going to increase their output.
Only fanboys want this acquisition to go through, just like the Activision-Blizzard one.
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Killjoy-NL
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I meant more Japanese games from Sony, not necessarily for Sony.
One could also say only fanboys want it not to go through.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
If it were a situation like with Konami who's mismanaging Metal Gear, I'd get it. There could be hope that Sony would respect the franchise and release good games, but From? They're doing just fine on their own.
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Loomy
Banned
The silver lining here is Hiroki Totoki - money guy - wants their games on more platforms. So the business people want more money and they now know that comes from games available on PC. Hopefully.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I see a Orange Gamecube and a N64.
Guilty_AI
Member
And that's the best case scenario. Imagine if they try to hinder their creative process or start transferring part of their projects to other studios.
If sony buys them, this last batch of games they're making will be their last good ones. It'll be downhill from there.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I think they’ll be fine under Sony. Their collaborative efforts have yielded good results in the past and I don’t see Sony getting in their way.
I just don’t see how it’s going to benefit us in any way.
Guilty_AI
Member
Their collaborative projects were done with 2000s Sony. We're dealing with 2020's Sony here, the one that bet hundreds of millions on Concord and seriously thought it'd be this huge thing.
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Orbital2060
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Can someone confirm that the source actually mentions From Soft employees? Because the translated source specifically states they are Kadokawa employees. Which could be anyone in the large company, and fx someone profiting from a deal being made.
Or did Eurogamer make up that part?
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Or did Eurogamer make up that part?
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Skifi28
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I don't really see the concern. They've largely given quite a bit of freedom to their Japanese studios to pursue their thing, even at their own expense. I doubt they would risk changing anything in From after a 20+ million hit. Maybe give them a good engine and some proper tech support from other studios.
Bloodborne and Déraciné weren't in development for 18 years.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Let's not get crazy. Souls just isn't souls without terrible frame pacing.
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Who is "us"?
Non-exclusivity is in large part what killed Xbox as we know it, which people claim is also bad for "us".
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Gamers.
Except From has been multiplatform for three decades so this "exclusivity" is simply Sony removing games from other platforms if they do it. There’s a world of difference between developing talent and studios internally and just buying up studios to consolidate one’s lead.
You know this. Stop playing dumb.
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Maybe take a page from Calverz and ABK,
who's now trolling in this acquisition thread with a game nobody cares about but him. "It will benefit the vast majority of gamers. Just not xbox only gamers. That's their choice though". Right?
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mayham2199
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Apparently this has been negotiated for a longtime. If the letter was sent then at this point I assume this was already worked out.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Bloodborne is not multiplatform... still the GOAT as far as I'm concerned, so... more of this please.
Astray
Member
Acquisitions never benefit consumers. At best a good thing stays good which is basically status quo.
With that said, Xbox-only guys probably lose out on From games going forward, and Sony likely won't lose money on it either for various reasons. PC at worst will get delayed ports, if that.
With that said, Xbox-only guys probably lose out on From games going forward, and Sony likely won't lose money on it either for various reasons. PC at worst will get delayed ports, if that.
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Fake
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So... Bloodborne is a GOAT because is not a multiplatform?
Setsuna Mudou
Member
I don't know... at the very least it seems it didn't hinder the GOAT status, right?
Fake
Member
For me Bloodborne is a GOAT because its a hell of game, nothing to do with being exclusive.
In fact, I don't think would change if the game was release in others plataforms. Elden Ring is for me a GOAT as much as Bloodborne.
Hidetaka Miyazaki is the key here, nothing to do with being an exclusive or not.
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ChorizoPicozo
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sony's monopoly is massive and growing TM
Setsuna Mudou
Member
That's a pretty narrow view of the situation. I'm pretty sure not having to compromise the vision to make concessions for multiple platforms allows the artistry to shine. Games are developed faster and can be better optimized too if focusing on a single piece of hardware. Those are just facts.
In other words, the previous poster was indicating being exclusive somehow hurts "us", well, clearly not...
RodriGames40
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¿Hablas español tambien? Genial.El mar de lagrimas empezó. ¿Algunas vienen de resetera?
Fake
Member
You sure never played Bloodborne.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yet Demon's Souls and Bloodborne are every bit as janky as every other multiplat From game.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
My platinum and 100% trophy completion says otherwise
Nice crack though, it's a 2015 game... Not sure how releasing it on xbox one would do the frame pacing any favors
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Could be worst... somehow Elden Ring on PS5 ran worse than the same game on PS4
bender
What time is it?
Fake
Member
My platinum and 100% trophy completion says otherwise
Nice crack though, it's a 2015 game... Not sure how releasing it on xbox one would do the frame pacing any favors
And? You say as PS4 was a cheap machine for 2015.
You are not doing your argument any favors sir.
lmao. Elden Ring on PS5 runs better than Elden Ring on PS4.
You must be mistaking Elden Ring PS5 using PS4 BC.
Radical_3d
Member
Bearer of the corp… seek sales. Seek stronger sales.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No. You mean that the PS5 version of Elden Ring runs worse on PS5 than the PS4 version of Elden Ring runs on PS5.
Elden Ring on PS4 runs straight up worse than any version on PS5.
Guilty_AI
Member
No it didn't, ps4 ran it at 30 fps with lower settings, ps5 ran it at 45-60 with higher settings.
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