Neko Mimi Mode
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On the other hand though, it sounds like you agree the PS5 will have a PERCEIVABLE graphical deficit compared to Series X.
Everyone wants to hate the Xbox Series S, but.....
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On the other hand though, it sounds like you agree the PS5 will have a PERCEIVABLE graphical deficit compared to Series X.
RaZoR No1
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Depending on your home network setting, why not use the console streaming? Less lag than xCloud and should be better on Series X (theoretically) . You can stream it to PC or Android, so a Fire TV stick should be enough.
I personally wouldn't play any action or quick paced games (except you know what ^^) in the bed room, so I wouldn't focus that much on lag on your case.
Why don't you try out the console streaming and/or xCloud first and later you can decide what system to buy? I don't think, that the Series S will be sold out. By then we should have enough information and experience about the consoles and you can decide for yourself, if the Series S is enough for the bedroom or not.
I personally wouldn't play any action or quick paced games (except you know what ^^) in the bed room, so I wouldn't focus that much on lag on your case.
Why don't you try out the console streaming and/or xCloud first and later you can decide what system to buy? I don't think, that the Series S will be sold out. By then we should have enough information and experience about the consoles and you can decide for yourself, if the Series S is enough for the bedroom or not.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I think every metric matters when it comes to performance from a console, yes. The advantage PS5 has is that they have actual exclusives designed to take advantage of that hardware but what happens between third party games is up in the air, but I don't expect there to be a plethora of DF videos telling us there's no difference at all, I mean, their whole job is telling you there is one. Basically if 2 Teraflops makes a difference then you can be damn sure 8 makes a difference.
THE DUCK
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I dont know how to break this to you, but outside of this board, regular people don't see spending $300 on gaming as "sensible", let alone $500.
Who are you to tell them a new phone that they will potentially use hundreds of hours more than the casual game console deserves thier time and money? Your priority is not thier priority.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I didn't say what deserves their money. I'm talking about what is or isn't sensible. BTW, phones that cost hundreds of dollars aren't sensible, it's a fucking phone.
THE DUCK
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That's actually probably true, and it will likely be $199 or $249 next year. Its also likely when they will sell the most series s.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
I'm still thinking on getting one... Was waiting for nvidia or AMD to announce their mid-range (6600 or 3060) cards since I don't give a single fuck about 4K or even 1440p (I could for the later but not right now).
Some of us just feel we're wasting money on a feature we won't use (4K).
To be fair, 4K is very niche in most of the world, and for people who game TVs under 40", even 1080p can be uncommon.
Actually, outside of USA, 4K isn't even close to be an option for most, let alone 1440p which is very VERY niche here latinamerica which make the options very limited and expensive.
But even then, there's just people like me who really don't care about 4K as long as they can play their games, many of us were already complaining for months because 4K was making consoles more expensive for those that won't use it for a while (for whatever reason).
And yes, $300 vs $500 is A LOT in here... Like, srsly, A LOT. Let's say most people in Colombia don't even earn $400/month and we're not even the lowest paid in the continent in average, yet some of them like gaming so try to go cheap by financing, pirating or waiting for months or years till games prices go down. I actually know people that stopped pirating because of XGP on their Xbones since it's a great deal for them.
Some of us just feel we're wasting money on a feature we won't use (4K).
To be fair, 4K is very niche in most of the world, and for people who game TVs under 40", even 1080p can be uncommon.
Actually, outside of USA, 4K isn't even close to be an option for most, let alone 1440p which is very VERY niche here latinamerica which make the options very limited and expensive.
But even then, there's just people like me who really don't care about 4K as long as they can play their games, many of us were already complaining for months because 4K was making consoles more expensive for those that won't use it for a while (for whatever reason).
And yes, $300 vs $500 is A LOT in here... Like, srsly, A LOT. Let's say most people in Colombia don't even earn $400/month and we're not even the lowest paid in the continent in average, yet some of them like gaming so try to go cheap by financing, pirating or waiting for months or years till games prices go down. I actually know people that stopped pirating because of XGP on their Xbones since it's a great deal for them.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Looking forward to technical comparisons between X and S by Digital Foundry, for instance.
Until then it's just bla bla.
Until then it's just bla bla.
THE DUCK
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You could easily reverse that statement and swap phone for video game system. You and I see value in gaming as high, for others the phone would be the high value item.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
So, here would be the real difference... if the only smart phones in existence all cost 400 dollars I'd never buy a smart phone. If the only next gen consoles were 400-500 dollars with no 300 dollar option? These people would still buy a next-gen console.
SkylineRKR
Member
I bought it for the form factor and because I mostly want to play classics on it. And its not expensive though the Digital PS5 is only 100 more expensive.
Haint
Member
Do you guys have a used market with relatively cheap PC parts? I wouldn't be messing with next-gen consoles in your case (they'll probably be locked down tight for years). I'd get my hands on a gaming PC, an eye patch, and a peg leg.
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THE DUCK
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You might not, but they would. And they would skip the console and game on older ones or on thier phone.
ReBurn
Gold Member
If you literally can't handle spending an extra 200 dollars then there's nothing sensible about how you live your life.
No one is too poor to afford a 400 dollar smart phone if they have PATIENCE.
THE DUCK
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True, it probably would bad in most, my upstairs TV stand is white and grey though..........
Downstairs I really shouldn't care, its in a closet......lol
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Extra 200? My smart phone cost me 80 lol. It does everything I need it to do... I make calls, receive calls and can look up bullshit on the internet. Smart phone prices are stupid, there isn't anything amazing someone can do who spent hundreds more than me, I know, because people in my family have expensive ones lol. It's nowhere near comparable to the difference between video game consoles. But whatever, that's priorities, I don't care about a smart phone, this whole conversation is predicated on people who CARE about video games, I mean they must, they're buying the newest console at launch, right? I don't give two shits about smart phones.
Kataploom
Gold Member
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I think PC gaming is more expensive everywhere lol, apart from for those claiming that they rather spend on PC so then games are "free forever"
I think PC gaming is more expensive everywhere lol, apart from for those claiming that they rather spend on PC so then games are "free forever"
regawdless
Banned
I don't actively want to hate. I just do.
Honestly though, I don't hate it. It's just not for me, I kinda ignore it's there. Not "real" next gen for me.
Honestly though, I don't hate it. It's just not for me, I kinda ignore it's there. Not "real" next gen for me.
the fanboys seem to want to compare the Series S to the PS5: DE for no reason other than console warring, the Series S is NOT a Discless Series X, its solely designed as the "second xbox", for the kids rooms where they want to play the new games with their friends and most likely only have a 1080p hand me down tv from the living room, or as a cheap entry into next gen where Game Pass is the main draw.
This is NOT a console thats designed to go under that fancy 4k tv in your living room.
This is NOT a console thats designed to go under that fancy 4k tv in your living room.
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FunkMiller
Banned
Every piece of news that comes out about Series S indicates that it does a poor job of running games. That's all that matters so far.
DavidGzz
Gold Member
Perfect for my daughter who doesn't and won't have a 4k TV for years in her bedroom. I think it will be a hit for parents who appreciate a cheaper console+Game Pass for their kids. Especially in the age of $70 games.
Kids are also not going to give a shit if a game runs at 900p. Ryse was 900p on Xbone and it was still beautiful.
Kids are also not going to give a shit if a game runs at 900p. Ryse was 900p on Xbone and it was still beautiful.
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Spaceman292
Banned
You don't need a console for every room in the house
XGon'GiveItToYa
Banned
Everyone who has no interest on Xbox wants to hate the Xbox Series S, but.....
FTFY
The console is perfect for casual gamers who are the vast majority of console gamers. Affordable, more juice than what we would have as main consoles hadn't the Xbox One X/PS4 Pro been a thing and the funny thing is it will perform much better than base Xbox One especially but also the PS4 throughout the whole generation. Base Xbox One struggled to do 1080 30 in most games, the XSS might start showing it's age towards the end of next gen but it won't be nowhere near as bad as the base consoles this gen. I mean, it can run Gears 5 that is by no means an old looking game at 120fps without compromising visual quality.
Plus all this talk about performance when the millions and millions of people who bought Xbox One and PS4 couldn't care less it can only do mostly 30fps at 1080p or even lower in some cases.
And MS already stated games will just scale down from XSX so no, it's not going to drag down how games look on other platforms. I wonder how much this was a thing here when last gen first launched because I really don't see it in the sales. 150+ millions console sold...
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Rhazer Fusion
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I haven't seen proof of that yet, but in all fairness it's still very early so we'll see.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Interesting. So you support Xbox, the side that constantly and repeatedly lie about everything. And you support their lies.
Riky
$MSFT
Now we know it's full RDNA2 those features are really going to help the Series S. Once the launch period is out of the way we'll see games taking advantage of what are still next gen CPU and SSD solutions.
Ive ordered one to go with my Series X, looking forward to it. It's a nice small console at a good price.
Ive ordered one to go with my Series X, looking forward to it. It's a nice small console at a good price.
I support the side that ll give me(IMHO) better gaming experience for the best price.
Also I was with PS this gen and there is no Sony exclusive I liked no matter how they try to hypnotize me with shiny graphics. Writing in their games suck, gameplay is always shallow as fuck and MS seem like ll try to win back audience Next Gen the way Sony did with their PS3 games. At the wery least we ll have good multiplayer n GamePass.
I can't wait to see the first engines that start supporting DirectStorage and VRS properly.
Rickyiez
Member
I think it's a very good entry to gaming . For just $299 you will be able to play so many titles from the past few years with better performance and not missing out on any upcoming titles . As of now , you can barely buy an RTX2060 alone with $299 that show how good of a value the Series S is .
Hitchyhero
Banned
Why are you so triggered by the Series S existing and some people liking it. If you don't like it.... Don't get it.
Personally I had an S preordered as it was going to be by secondary console, but I cancelled and swapped to the X because of bathesda purchase and gamepass. Now its going to be my main.
A lot of my friends who are sticking with playstation as their main have preordered or are thinking about getting the S. It's budget friendly and allows them to play the games they'd normally miss out on.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I don't give a damn for other people opinion about it, specially since most the ones that criticizes it here actually criticizes everything related to Xbox.
I pre-ordered the Series S and the plan is to keep it until mid-gen when I might also buy a PS5 Slim and / or change the Series S to an Series X when price drops.
I play Nintendo Switch mostly docked and love it. Series S is a much stronger console with all the 3rd party support, that will handle all the next-gen games (even if not with the same performance as PS5/SX) and with Game Pass and an awesome backwards compatibility.
There's nothing wrong with the console for the price it's being charged! It's pretty awesome actually!
I pre-ordered the Series S and the plan is to keep it until mid-gen when I might also buy a PS5 Slim and / or change the Series S to an Series X when price drops.
I play Nintendo Switch mostly docked and love it. Series S is a much stronger console with all the 3rd party support, that will handle all the next-gen games (even if not with the same performance as PS5/SX) and with Game Pass and an awesome backwards compatibility.
There's nothing wrong with the console for the price it's being charged! It's pretty awesome actually!
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DaleinCalgary
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It probably will play games just fine but the 512GB SSD makes it a confusing purchase because you will need to buy the $220 drive eventually.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I'm talking about people who would use it as their main console. you guys coming at me talking about using it as a second console doesn't really attack anything I said. But I would totally rather it didn't exist, yes. I would rather avoid any potential for next-gen games to be held back at all.
Too right the fact that it has backward compaitbilty is HUGE to this DAY: Burnout Revenge, Rockstar Table-Tennis, Panzer Dragoon, MGS-Trilogy, Republic Commando, Virtua Fighter 5 has not been bettered...
FrankWza
Member
I hear what you're saying, but, isn't the whole point of what ms and gamepass is doing being available on a bunch of devices and doesn't that give people access without needing an s? Can't they have access to these games on their existing tablet or pc?
and Sony did make a more affordable console. $100 less than the disc version and maintained the same specs.
Poop!
Member
The Series S is what sold me on next gen actually. I'm a gamer dad on a budget so the $299 and $60 games are what is going to put the box under my TV. My kids are very little (under 7) so all the bells and whistles mean nothing to our gaming family. We are very excited for the gamepass and the fact that next gen is barely over $300
Hitchyhero
Banned
Whilst we are here we cancel series x and PS5. They are holding back the nvidia 3080.
DavidGzz
Gold Member
Yeah, some people are interested in both consoles and I didn't know PS5 had Game Pass and XGS games. Why bring it up? Most anyone in here already knows the price of the PS5 DE.
FrankWza
Member
It's not a console though. And after yesterday, isn't the 3080 already holding itself back?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Pretty much my take. If gta 6 ends up downgraded so they can support that box, fuck Microsoft for life. Except Forza, Turn 10 can do no wrong.
martino
Member
outside form factor i see nothing interesting in S
And If you really want a cheap experience not locked to gamepass content opting for it is not a wise choice because lot of third party will not be on it and you don't want to have to wait for cheap price on a digital store with no concurrence.
And If you really want a cheap experience not locked to gamepass content opting for it is not a wise choice because lot of third party will not be on it and you don't want to have to wait for cheap price on a digital store with no concurrence.