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Transhuman
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Not saying women don't have it worse but it's not like the 65% of women who are victims are street harassment are being harassed by 65% of all men. More like a really douchey 1% of men.
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Not saying women don't have it worse but it's not like the 65% of women who are victims are street harassment are being harassed by 65% of all men. More like a really douchey 1% of men.
You Know Nothing
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Women aren't just street harrassed, they face extra barriers at every level of society, and that isn't mitigated because your friend has a crazy ex any more than racism is mitigated because your friend might know a black guy who is a jerk.
But I'm moving on I have to take a shower, I'm vile
I certainly agree that men have historically been more shitty to women than the opposite. But that doesn't mean women can't be shitty too, which I think was transhuman's point.
And to the point about me trying to be offended. That isn't the case at all. More than anything I enjoy playing devils advocate and giving people something to think about. Nothing is more boring than an echo chamber.
Even saying this is stupid, though. It's needless obfuscation. You can find anecdotal evidence of anyone doing anything. It's irrelevant to the topic. Again, try bringing up "but black people can be jerks too" if police brutality against minorities is the topic. If you like playing devil's advocate, go do it, and be assumed a knitwit.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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What's the point of playing devil's advocate about an issue that seriously affects and harms women on a very regular basis? It may spark debate for you but for others it's very real and very serious. Let it go.
So... I'm legit going to take a bath. I bought bath bombs. My journey towards being a woman is nearly complete.
No sandwich thoughI'm not advanced enough yet to pull off that maneuver
Good call. Save the sandwich for next time.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Men are gross
I just think it was pretty unfair for everyone to pile on TH when he told a story about something that he actually had experience with.
Instead of calling names perhaps a better methodology would have been something along the lines of "sorry to hear about your friend but...."
I'm not disagreeing with any of you btw, I was really just attempting to be empathetic to TH point, which I don't think was intentionally sexist or misogynistic at all.
There's no point there though. Do you see? When someone says women are discriminated against and treated poorly across the board and systemically, it doesn't mean we're denying that any woman has individually ever behaved badly. Bringing that up is pointless and can even seem hostile.
When we say the temperature of the planet is rising we're also not saying it's never cold anywhere. Saying it's cold in your town right now in response to a climate change discussion brings nothing to the table and such input would rightly be ignored or shouted down.
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I swear I'm gone for like half an hour and now look at this mess.
Don't hate me or my mother please.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I hate men and women
Birthday present shopping is stressful. I'm not looking for something expensive but I'd like to get something meaningful. I'm not gonna regift something from Lootcrate. That's lazy. I can't just pop over to Disneyland and get something from the parks that I know she'd like. Odds are she already has it or has seen it before. I think that Linkin Park Gundam officially exhausted my ideas for music-related gifts. There are a few rare Pop Vinyl Figures that I know she'd like and doesn't have yet but they're all in the $100 value.
I mean, I guess I could trade this for one at the local collectible show.
They were exclusive to a Disney Interactive panel and go for $150+ online. Damn it, I always hit a wall with presents when I've known someone for a while.
I mean, I guess I could trade this for one at the local collectible show.
They were exclusive to a Disney Interactive panel and go for $150+ online. Damn it, I always hit a wall with presents when I've known someone for a while.
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More otter gifs please!
I understand your point but I still believe there is a kinder and more effective way to have discussion than to call names. Whatever the issue.
If your hope is to educate someone on something, ignoring or getting angry at someone's view is the last thing you would want to do.
You bring up valid points and I think bringing in the racism or climate change comparisons at first would have been more effective than calling TH a narrowviewitarian.
trab pu kcip
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I actually said about two times how women can also be psychos. directly after TH's story too. why any of you would even try to paint a picture of us denying this is beyond me. that's what I meant by trying to find stuff to be offended about.
that being said TH's point was rather useless. we know there a individiual cases of women being abusive but we also know that there's a whole different and bigger pattern going on here regarding men. social circumstance can't be denied.
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SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I like ferrets better
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No. I mean you're not insane. If you think it's a great present it's all good. Don't buy it _because_ it's expensive though, I'm sure she wouldn't want that.
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I'm not diminishing sexism. Sometimes people act like pricks and it's not always because of deeply ingrained views of male superiority (though it often is the case). Sometimes people just have no empathy for the feelings of others. Sometimes people are just really, really stupid. Sometimes people are just selfish.
Those aren't traits unique to sexism and they're not unique to men. Chalking up every instance of debauchery between the sexes to sexism discounts all the other factors involved in why people do shitty things.
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Blanket. It's funny and useful and cuddly. The fuck is she supposed to do with the map.
Navigating around Hogwarts, duh...
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Transhuman
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Form follows function. Blanket does things but the map just is a thing.
trab pu kcip
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Speaking of birthdays, some of the stuff I got for my niece for her birthday this week
There's a bit more too
aaaaaaawwww
so many presents! I wanna be your niece too!
The PVZ ones lower on the stack are actually hardcover comic books. I don't know what stories there are to tell in the PVZ universe, but apparently there are some.
And yes me too, I'd spoil you rotten!
Speaking of birthdays, some of the stuff I got for my niece for her birthday this week
There's a bit more too
Shame my aunt is a pesky Jehovah's witness and those twats don't believe in birthdays or social responsibilities.
liliththepale
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Well that's not far off, but they're normally some of the most nicest people I know. I think my best bet at this point is to play to their naïveté re how quickly dye fades if untreated. It really won't do me any good to bold-face antagonize them, nor is that something I'd find interesting. It's very important to me that the wedding goes well.
Haha maybe if I thought I could get away with it. All the bridesmaids are wearing flower coronets in the wedding.
For what it's worth, I'm really proud of you for thinking this. It sucks that they are not as open minded as you and your choice of expression but it speaks to your character that you are willing to take the high road.
That wasn't a nice thing of them to do. It kind of wreaks. It's the sort of thing that would damage my relationship with them unless and until it's addressed and resolved. I can understand family obligations and eating shit sandwiches, but I would be upset about it.
FWIW you can come to my wedding wearing whatever offensive stuff you want. The bride has a tattoo on her forehead, though, so it may be hard for you to outdo her.
trab pu kcip
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this.
I think I'd be way too proud to change my appearance. maybe take out my piercing but that's also all I could do really. I couldn't cut out my tattoos or even let my dye fade that quickly. they need to know that it makes someone feel kinda shitty when they're expecting stuff like this. I can totally understand Lili taking the non-confrontational road but I don't necessarily think it's the best or right thing to do. it's not like a wedding entitles you to being a shithead ;p
RobotNinjaHornets
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Gah my fucking eyes
Fucking hayfever :c
Fucking hayfever :c
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