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FakeGAF Episode 5: The Thirst Awakens

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Misha

Banned
I just realized that 90% of my frustration is because of my drawing program. I still cant' quite figure out clip studio but man paint tool sai gets me. thank goodness the updated version works with my pen driver
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I really really REALLY wish I had dev skills. The book I keep mentioning would work so well as an RPG.

(Yes, it's fantasy trash)

In the future though
 

Jobbs

Banned
How are you at drawing iso stuff? I think I'd have to practice an awful lot before I was anywhere decent with it.

Not bad, the annoying part of it is just doing things from various angles. That makes it nearly impossible if you want to do a lot of animations using detailed hand drawn 2D art. That said, there's a definite solution -- Do it like Eitr does. It's isometric, but the actual attack animations are only from the side. It's something I wasn't sure would work when visualizing, but actually seing a game do it -- Eitr -- I realize it can work just fine.

So.. Really, you can have everything. You can do an isometric game with character art that is mostly similar to regular sidescroller art. Maybe you'd have a few additional angles for walking and facing directions, sure, but the actual attacks? They can totally just be from the side.

Anyway, I'm still toying with it in my head and deciding whether it'd be isometric or sidescroller. There are pros and cons to each. The biggest challenge with a sidescrolling Don't Souls is how to pull off navigation.

You'll have my preorder, so long as Ghost Song achieves a metacritic of 70%+.

man at this point I can't even imagine what's gonna happen reviews wise. Nothing would surprise me, good or bad. Some days I think the game is good, other days I think it's shite.
 
Dark Souls might not be a thing by the tie you finish this, though. It's a good game but I have doubts about its ability to survive time.
I think it will be around for quite a while, though it will mature into a much broader genre same as the Metroidvania.

I really really REALLY wish I had dev skills. The book I keep mentioning would work so well as an RPG.

(Yes, it's fantasy trash)

In the future though
Have you looked into RPG maker?

Nobody is born with dev skills. Devs are just a bunch of people who decided they wanted to make something and went for it.

Not bad, the annoying part of it is just doing things from various angles. That makes it nearly impossible if you want to do a lot of animations using detailed hand drawn 2D art. That said, there's a definite solution -- Do it like Eitr does. It's isometric, but the actual attack animations are only from the side. It's something I wasn't sure would work when visualizing, but actually seing a game do it -- Eitr -- I realize it can work just fine.

So.. Really, you can have everything. You can do an isometric game with character art that is mostly similar to regular sidescroller art. Maybe you'd have a few additional angles for walking and facing directions, sure, but the actual attacks? They can totally just be from the side.

That said, I'm still toying with it in my head and deciding whether it'd be isometric or sidescroller. There are pros and cons to each. The biggest challenge with a sidescrolling Don't Souls is how to pull off navigation.

Oof, I know exactly what you're talking about. At that point it becomes much less about creative art and more about technical stuff, which just isn't fun. I've been drawing weapons from different angles all weekend so I can very closely feel that pain.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Have you looked into RPG maker?

Nobody is born with dev skills. Devs are just a bunch of people who decided they wanted to make something and went for it.
Nobody cares about other people's RPG Maker games. I know I don't.
 

FUME5

Member
man at this point I can't even imagine what's gonna happen reviews wise. Nothing would surprise me, good or bad. Some days I think the game is good, other days I think it's shite.

We'll still love like support tolerate you no matter how it reviews!

Simoom is such a neat and highly specific word.

Huh. Yes it is.

Oof, I know exactly what you're talking about. At that point it becomes much less about creative art and more about technical stuff, which just isn't fun. I've been drawing weapons from different angles all weekend so I can very closely feel that pain.

Show us the weekends best murder device!

I'm sorry for not including you.

What?

Lilith has a bf now so that would just be wrong.

What?

How are you liking Alex? He's not for me I think, but he has some cool moves.

OK!

Nah, haven't given him a shot yet, was playing with some people on Friday night, my Zangeif is still garbage and so I never got around to trying Alex out.
 
I read this as facial pegging and thought you were gonna make YKN and Vazra very sad.

I'll admit. I actually had to google what that was. Oh dear.

Nobody cares about other people's RPG Maker games. I know I don't.

You should try Sunset Over Imdahl. It's super old but doesn't feel like a traditional "RPG Maker" game

Edit : Also don't jump straight into 3D for your first "real" game. So many things jump into pain in the ass territory and not even in a cosmetic way. Things like small design nigglies that you can get away with in 2D become a skyscraper sized problem when you jump into that realm.
 

FUME5

Member
I'll give it a few more years as long as people don't run it into the ground with spiritual successors.

The only straight clone that I can think of is Lords of the Fallen.

Proof that budget and a template doesn't mean shit if you miss what the core experience is all about.
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
I'll admit. I actually had to google what that was. Oh dear.
I would say naughty things that would disturb you but I think I rather let this post let your imagination run wild of the things I was going to say or not. Now you can just think about it all the night and be mentally scarred by your own machinations. :3

Psychological Horror bruh
 

zeemumu

Member
The only straight clone that I can think of is Lords of the Fallen.

Proof that budget and a template doesn't mean shit if you miss what the core experience is all about.

I feel like a bunch of people are going to try to copy the artstyle.

Speaking of which, I need to get my hands on the artbooks. I have too few artbooks and I'd love to poke through a Dark Souls one.
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
Nobody cares about other people's RPG Maker games. I know I don't.

It's about starting somewhere and working from there.

So often people will get hung up on the language/engine/platform/etc. when attempting to learn. They end up spending all their time worrying and never actually start.

Doesn't matter how the first step is taken, just that it is.
 

Misha

Banned
This is way better

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SystemBug

Member
Also Misha, with color, also check out works from other artists and see how they use ti to evoke a mood or just to make something look pretty.

A lot of art is learning
copying
by looking at how others use certain things.
 
I'm sorry for not including you.

Lilith has a bf now so that would just be wrong.

How are you liking Alex? He's not for me I think, but he has some cool moves.

My boyfriend is an essential part of the equation. There's no one to peg when I'm single!


I'll give it a few more years as long as people don't run it into the ground with spiritual successors.

Why do you think so? Where would the audience in general move to? I don't think people play Dark Souls for the novelty even if some of the marketing has previously been "check out how novel this difficulty is". Good things stay good, especially if you have dozens or hundreds of different teams iterating on the idea.

Nobody cares about other people's RPG Maker games. I know I don't.

Well have you looked into any sort of development? I have to admit I don't really play RPGs, so I have no inclination to sift through all the RPG Maker projects people have made, but I'm sure you could find a few diamonds in the rough such as what Fengshui's recommended.

Show us the weekends best murder device!

This is kind of a cop-out but I've only been working on the boring weapons to start with, primarily because of the simpler form so I can get practice with the technicals of it. Though I rather like how this one turned out:

GYMaejS.png
 

FUME5

Member
The phallic loveheart handle is a nice touch!

I look forward to seeing your more esoteric creations.

Debating whether to bail out of that how creepy thread....nah.
 

Jobbs

Banned
it just looks like a sword

and dark souls won't be a thing? hahahha

its fanbase is only growing larger and more devoted

it'll be a thing
 

Vazra

irresponsible vagina leak
And my mood went to shit for no real reason. I think I'm out for the night or maybe just lurk from my phone and answer more miitomo questions. Later.
 

Jobbs

Banned
GAF would lose their minds at a Jobbs/Lilith joint.

Eventually I'll be looking for a Unity programmer but I doubt Lili's schedule would ever line up with mine, I kinda get the feeling she'd rather do her own thing anyway

I have a few leads but I won't be really looking much into it until late 2016 or later. My friend at Bluepoint has some amazing contacts, too, that he offered to help me with


reading over that page got me reaally tired
 
Eventually I'll be looking for a Unity programmer but I doubt Lili's schedule would ever line up with mine, I kinda get the feeling she'd rather do her own thing anyway

I have a few leads but I won't be really looking much into it until late 2016 or later. My friend at Bluepoint has some amazing contacts, too, that he offered to help me with

Well that and we've had plenty of disagreements over gameplay priorities in the past. I think there's a mutual respect but fairly different tastes between us, and we're both pretty strong-willed.
 
I would say naughty things that would disturb you but I think I rather let this post let your imagination run wild of the things I was going to say or not. Now you can just think about it all the night and be mentally scarred by your own machinations. :3

Psychological Horror bruh

Forever my (psychological horror) muse <3
 

Jobbs

Banned
I'm more inclined to reach out to someone in a professional capacity and not really look to my friend pool for recruiting purposes (online or off).. that got me burned reallllly badly with the whole KS thing

edit: ^ holy shit fumes
 

FUME5

Member
I'm more inclined to reach out to someone in a professional capacity and not really look to my friend pool for recruiting purposes (online or off).. that got me burned reallllly badly with the whole KS thing

edit: ^ holy shit fumes

You like that hey? Ethereal yet suggestive of a robust solidness.
 
Well that and we've had plenty of disagreements over gameplay priorities in the past. I think there's a mutual respect but fairly different tastes between us, and we're both pretty strong-willed.

I know that the window for us working together has passed, and that's due to my eyes being too big for my mouth as well as just general development hell bullshit, as well as you working in an entirely different toolset, but I have tremendous respect for you as a developer and a person.

I also just realized that I can't use Dr. Cthulhu in the DLC due to it being done last year and me not having time or the energy to deal with tax bullshit for contractors even though there was no contract and it was only two test characters.
 
I just realized I've been neglecting a tool in Illustrator that will do half of my 3D reprojection for me. This is so bittersweet, especially at the tail end of the weekend. Ah well.


You got over your fear of ghost dicks, now prepare for the terror that is smoke dicks!

blow job
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Why not just make sure you screw your cap on right?
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I'm only human, but a reader is just so useful. not the first time I've has to use it. better than paying for a mechanic to diagnose problems using a similar tool. since computers are in so much control and monitoring, why not give yourself the tools?
 

FUME5

Member
I'm only human, but a reader is just so useful. not the first time I've has to use it. better than paying for a mechanic to diagnose problems using a similar tool. since computers are in so much control and monitoring, why not give yourself the tools?

Fair enough I guess, but work van plus regular servicing paid for by work means I haven't had car troubles in a hell of a long time.

Something is going to go wrong next time I'm a hundred k's from anywhere now that I've said that.
 
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