That's not what successful means though.I am talking quality, sales I dont have EXACT figures, nor would anyone I assume.
That's not what successful means though.I am talking quality, sales I dont have EXACT figures, nor would anyone I assume.
I am talking quality, sales I dont have EXACT figures, nor would anyone I assume.
The topic here is more 'successful' rather than development quality, I think.
I am talking quality, sales I dont have EXACT figures, nor would anyone I assume.
Genso Suikoden Tierkreis did not sell very well in the US. "Success" seems to be equivalent to sales.Ok, then subplant that with suikoden ds, the world ends with you, blue dragon 2, dragon quest IX, dq monsters joker 2, devil survivor, mario and luigi, any of the pokemons, strange journies, the metroidvanias, solatorobo, atelier annie ( I enjoyed this one a bunch) ect or any number of US releases.
How well did Dragon Quest IX and Joker 2 do?Genso Suikoden Tierkreis did not sell very well in the US.
Mario and Luigi, any of the Pokemon titles, and Dragon Quest IX, I'll give ya.
Having to count the metroidvanias as RPGs to get to a dozen titles of (partly dubious) success doesn't really strengthen your original point about "25 hands".
No wonder you were able to think of 125 "good" games.why? those metroidvania titles were awesome and were as much rpgs as anything. I could keep going, but its boring. But I will give 3 of my all time favorite titles I didnt list ie golden sun 3, glory of heracles V,Radiant Historia
Genso Suikoden Tierkreis did not sell very well in the US. "Success" seems to be equivalent to sales.
Mario and Luigi, any of the Pokemon titles, and Dragon Quest IX, I'll give ya.
No wonder you were able to think of 125 "good" games.
One wouldn't need to count them get well past a dozen anyway. You could list nearly a dozen Pokémon RPGs alone.Having to count the metroidvanias as RPGs to get to a dozen titles of (partly dubious) success doesn't really strengthen your original point about "25 hands".
How well did Dragon Quest IX and Joker 2 do?
I'm kidding. I haven't played either game, but most of GAF seems to have opinions that run contrary to yours.Whats wrong with those titles? Golden Sun 3 was fantastic. ( We are approaching opinion fighting zone here)
One wouldn't to count them get well past a dozen anyway. You could list nearly a dozen Pokémon RPGs alone.
Dunno about Joker 2, but I swear DQIX sold about 130K in its first month here according to NPD.How well did Dragon Quest IX and Joker 2 do?
Not impressive when you take into consideration the sales of previous titles in the series in the US, Rhapsodia in particular. I should really update that graph now that we have numbers for Genso Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki.Stealth20k said:I think for a side game it did well.
I didnt know it sold 200k worldwide though, thats impressive
why? those metroidvania titles were awesome and were as much rpgs as anything. I could keep going, but its boring. But I will give 3 of my all time favorite titles I didnt list ie golden sun 3, glory of heracles V,Radiant Historia
I'm kidding. I haven't played either game, but most of GAF seems to have opinions that run contrary to yours.
Ah, okay. That's better than I thought.Dunno about Joker 2, but I swear DQIX sold about 130K in its first month here according to NPD.
Edit: Yeah, kinda.
Don't update it. I want to stay blissfully ignorant about the downward spiral of Suikoden.Not impressive when you take into consideration the sales of previous titles in the series in the US, Rhapsodia in particular. I should really update that graph now that we have numbers for Genso Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki.
I don't even know what to say.Which is fine. I am a huge rpg fanboy, i will be the first to admit that. So I will stand up for them where I can if I think its correct. I wouldnt expect anyone else to be so rpg hardcore
Dunno about Joker 2, but I swear DQIX sold about 130K in its first month here according to NPD.
Edit: Yeah, kinda.
Not impressive when you take into consideration the sales of previous titles in the series in the US, Rhapsodia in particular. I should really update that graph now that we have numbers for Genso Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyakunen no Toki.
Wow. :\
I'm a huge fan of the Glory of Heracles games, was super hyped about the DS game, and it disappointed me so much that I was put off of video games entirely for 6 months. I'm surprised that someone likes it enough to call it one of their all-time favorites.
Genso Suikoden Tierkreis did not sell very well in the US. "Success" seems to be equivalent to sales.
Mario and Luigi, any of the Pokemon titles, and Dragon Quest IX, I'll give ya.
Anyway let me try and get back on topic.
I love legend of heroes.
Ive important them all but I had to stop because they were too hard to play with my limited japanese knowledge, so I just have them collected.
But trails.........man........what a prologue to the VI trilogy.
If the main game of SC never comes here it will be a huge travesty. To me it would be like How I felt playing shining force 3 part 1 and then nada for part 2 and 3
Suikode on DS was a success, come on. A spin-off on a Nintendo handheld selling at least 56k in the US is not a flop by any means.
Dragon Quest IX sold a million units in the West.
stealth20k do you own a copy of attack of the saiyans
Ahaha. I thought the PSP game brought some cool stuff to the table for the series. Plus I felt more engaged with it than Tierkreis (which took me three attempts to get through...). Tierkreis had better sound and presentation, though. As of now, though, I think the PSP game has less sales than Tierkreis (82 435). It launched at about 59,800 or so, and Tierkreis launched at 62 835, which is... surprisingly not that bad. I thought it would've did worse.lunch said:Don't update it. I want to stay blissfully ignorant about the downward spiral of Suikoden.
Please do elaborate when/if you get the chance.Stealth20k said:different systems and situations ( I hate comparing sales).
We've had this discussion before, and we agreed to disagree at that time.electroplankton said:Suikoden on DS sold nicely on the US, come on. A spin-off on a Nintendo handheld selling at least 56k in the US is not a flop by any means.
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If you are going to post so much fix your avatar. White box was bothering me
Oh cool, I'll read your write-up then. The first Suikoden is one of my favorite games, but the second hand prices for every other game in the series are absurdly high so I've never played past the first, and everything I've seen of Tierkreis turns me off. I wish the PSP game came out here, but I suppose that's a ridiculous request.Ahaha. I thought the PSP game brought some cool stuff to the table for the series. Plus I felt more engaged with it than Tierkreis (which took me three attempts to get through...). Tierkreis had better sound and presentation, though. As of now, though, I think the PSP game has less sales than Tierkreis (82 435). It launched at about 59,800 or so, and Tierkreis launched at 62 835.
The same way you changed your avatar to begin with.how do I fix it?
how do I fix it?
Trails is literally only the prologue
and Second chapter is the main game
and third is the epilogue
Not quite.
FC is the first half, SC is the second half.
You can go without 3rd, but if you intend to go beyond the Sora titles and to Zero and Ao, it is absolutely required. It is the bridging story to the next part.
If I try to play Zero no Kiseki without having played 3rd, will I be confused, or will I just miss out on some crossovers?Not quite.
FC is the first half, SC is the second half.
You can go without 3rd, but if you intend to go beyond the Sora titles and to Zero and Ao, it is absolutely required. It is the bridging story to the next part.
Hearing all this Trails stuff is depressing because I am only ~10 hours into the game and I knowing that we might not see its sequel (it's second half!? that's even worse) is sad
Not quite.
FC is the first half, SC is the second half.
You can go without 3rd, but if you intend to go beyond the Sora titles and to Zero and Ao, it is absolutely required. It is the bridging story to the next part.
If I try to play Zero no Kiseki without having played 3rd, will I be confused, or will I just miss out on some crossovers?
And second chapter is like 50 percent larger too. Its enormous......
If I try to play Zero no Kiseki without having played 3rd, will I be confused, or will I just miss out on some crossovers?
I gathered that by the script picture. My lord
If I try to play Zero no Kiseki without having played 3rd, will I be confused, or will I just miss out on some crossovers?
You can go without 3rd in that SC has an ending that wraps stuff up, but man... 3rd not only bridges into Zero/Ao, it also much more deeply explores stuff from FC/SC. In my opinion, it's still a crucial title, even if you don't plan to go onto Zero and Ao.
I actually like the way SC ends when you haven't played 3rd. It's a good, settled ending with enough threads to give you an idea of things to come, but it's not a killer 'how many plot threads are still dangling?' sort of ending.
3rd is actually my favorite of the games, story-wise, personally. ...and the three year wait that we had from 3rd to Zero, for me, was incredibly maddening. Primarily because of the fact that what was tied up nice and neat in SC was blown open for you to see in 3rd.
Don't get me wrong, 3rd is an incredible game when it comes to getting detailed information on Zemuria, and while it's a good ending without an actual cliffhanger, you will still be left with so many questions by the time all is finished.
But I do believe that Zero, and ESPECIALLY Ao no Kiseki, require some of this world building information that is brought up in 3rd. Falcom said that you could play Zero without previous knowledge of the series, but you won't have the impact of the narrative that you would've had otherwise.