randomengine
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Those features could have been added to Fallout 3 as an expansion pack.....and in all honesty actually was an expansion pack called Hearthfire for Skyrim.
Fallout 4 - Reviews thread
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Those features could have been added to Fallout 3 as an expansion pack.....and in all honesty actually was an expansion pack called Hearthfire for Skyrim.
Randomizer
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How so?
GlamFM
Banned
I have a problem with the word "honest" here...
TheSlySoul
Member
AngryCentaur has Xbox One footage if you are curious what it runs like. Looks a bit rough, PS4 version it is...
Admiral Woofington
Member
I mean yeah, maybe I jumped the gun since Skyrim didn't have any game breaking bug ala unicorn mission in Oblivion.
Mushroomer25
Member
Has anybody in this thread played enough of the game to make a definitive statement like that?
SocksAndShoes
Banned
Yes I can disagree with that. This game seems quite ambitious. Tons of locations
(over 300)
Those are nothing at all like what we are getting in this game though.
So is this more honest than the other reviews because it matches your own feelings and pre-existing issues with the game?
Papacheeks
Banned
I think your on the right track in that assessment. To me the changes made in the dialogue and questing in Witcher 3 destroys this game.
Add in it's focused narrative, but allso it attention to small story lines found in random quests.
I don't see that type of effort in a bethesda game. They want the game to be this huge open, modable playground, for people to do whatever they want.
They give you a basic story outline then set you lose. Which is the turn off for me. The main reason I couldn't get past 22 hours in Skyrim.
Mushroomer25
Member
Yes, honest. As in 'any review I disagree with is clearly being dishonest'.
Oh, so you've played it then?
bananafactory
Banned
What's hard to understand about a game being so incredible in every category that it's possible to forgive technical problems?
He is driving into work and taking on mixlr.
Pestilence11
Member
The one thing it has to make you wonder is, how many more issues it would need to have to get less 10/10 and 9/10 scores. I get that the good things it has outweighs the bad but I've seen other games get ripped to shreds in reviews for less. Either way I've got it pre-ordered, only because it was a 30% off promo in Canada.
Astral Dog
Member
But what about the framerate and graphics? What about that other thread?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh, we're talking about Bethesda here and while I wouldn't call them lazy, their bugs are hardly the publishers or time constraints fault, considering their games have always, always been like this.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sure, all we need to do is reinvent a complete paradigm shift in video game development like 2D to 3D was, and we're set.
captainnapalm
Member
In that's a truer RPG experience, and so has to account for a greater variety of gameplay systems, mechanics, choices, paths etc. There are more variables.
That dude does yeah. Though as far as I have seen, there are a lot of CHA speech checks in this game. Just not skill checks.
Canis lupus
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The hell is open critic? Some gaffer made site?
Moon_frogger
Member
in some ways, yes. I found it annoying that you were basically routed into long pathways though. So many times I wanted to climb over a little hill and found I couldn't. It was a bit annoying. Also, the limitations of last gen hardware made for a lot of annoying sectioned off bullshit in places like new vegas.
kavanf1
Member
Unless I'm mistaken, Obsidian did NV because BethSoft were starting on Skyrim after finishing Fallout 3. I've always viewed it as an Infinity Ward/Treyarch kind of model, except with much longer dev times, due to the complexity of the games. And in the same way, each studio brings its own strengths to the game, and it's not necessarily possible for the other studio to include all the things they do. Doesn't mean that one is necessarily better than the other. As long as I see iterative improvement, I am happy the devs are putting their all into their game.
Vault Dweller 111
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I find it hard to believe that you actually don't get it.
Are all of you people really this dense?
SliceSabre
Banned
Poster looking for their opinion to be validated and the other reviews weren't doing it.
meanspartan
Member
Maybe because they fucking don't matter to most people unless they are truly and frequently game breaking (Skyrim Ps3, looking at you).
Ya, I was annoyed at Fallout 3's bugs, but I was too enchanted with the game and its world to care that it crashed once or twice during my playthrough.
GAF is sometimes this alternate reality where people say they do things like stop playing Witcher 3, the best big budget RPG in years, because the framerate in a couple areas drops to 20. While that is shitty and annoying, it doesn't stop the vast majority of people from playing or thinking highly of the game. They say "ugh this part is shitty" and then move on to continue to be stunned by its world and story.
Games aren't fucking disqualified and reviewers aren't "shills" just because a game doesn't meet technical perfection. To the extent it actually distracts from or breaks the experience, the game should be marked down. But outside of that, few actually care.
No, I think in this particular case, New Vegas is absolutely better than Fallout 3 in every single way.
GeordieMark
Member
This is just as bad. The only people being lazy are those using either as criticism
stufte
Member
Question:
2 options to play this game, what would you choose? Ultimately I want to play Fallout 4 from the comfort of my couch.
1. Play Fallout 4 on PS4
2. Play Fallout 4 on PC streaming to TV with Steam Link (wired 100mb down).
PC - i5 4670k
16gb ram
gtx 970 G1
What would you choose?
On topic, very happy to hear the reviews went well! Please relax people and enjoy the game!
If you don't care that the link will only stream 2.0 audio, then I'd go with the link. Otherwise stick with the ps4.
Technosteve
Banned
Is obsidian going to be making the followup fallout? Or did they sour on the relationship
I predicted a 92. But after reading the DF thread about the Xbox One fps drops, a high 80 score would not surprise me at all. No excuse.
Trickster
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Think it's a site that doesn't have the "scale" system that metacritic uses to give big sites like ign and gamespot an bigger impact on the overall metacritic score.
Basically a true average score rather than a missleading "average" that metacritic uses.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I won't disagree that NV is a better game, but I recall that game outright being broken when it came out. Obsidian isn't perfect by any means as a whole.
Just a question,
Is there a need to be a cunt?
I mean really, who does this help.
This is someone who obviously sits on the side of the opinion that technical issues are always issues, and gameplay, as good as it can be, still doesn't hide or cover up that they exists and are things that could have been rectified.
He holds hope that maybe, there are reviewers out there who agree with this sentiment, to which he finds few if any, and expresses wonder for why there aren't more.
Because when the honeymoon period wears off and people start playing the game, more and more people are going to bring up these technical issues. It's not like they're non-existant. They ruin the game for a fair amount of people, and fixing them hurts no one. Why they have to exist in the first place and why no one really takes Bethesda to task for it is a valid question.
Elysium-777
Member
Dissapointed that some are saying that the evil path seems limited. I never did a good playthrough in FO3 since the negative karma playthrough was so satisfying.
wanderjahr
Banned
The king is dead. Long live the king!
Move over Bethesda, CDPR is the new king of open-world RPG's.
Move over Bethesda, CDPR is the new king of open-world RPG's.
Phat Michael
Banned
Wait the steam Link doesn't do 5.1?
Do I have to agree now or can you please let me play the game first?
GeordieMark
Member
Skyrim got decent reviews on PS3 actually. Most reviewers didn't mention the game was totally fucked.
I think the reason people are getting on Bethesda's case is that buggy games are their hallmark and little has changed since last time around.
stufte
Member
It's apparently "being worked on". In valve-time.
kavanf1
Member
Apologies, I've lost track...which particular case are you referring to?
stufte
Member
As long as there aren't any ending spoilers, I'd say let it ride.
Near the end of the review - "For the last decade Bethesda games have had similar issues, and its getting harder to forgive. Somehow in despite of everything, FO4 consumed us."
What worries me now is save file bloat, will this game's wheels fall off once the savefile hits 15mb.
Sanctuary
Member
Destructioid's been giving out 7.5/10s lately. The new Polygon?
I stopped playing TW3 because a) CDPR started releasing patch after patch and b) was entirely sick of the mundane combat. And as nice as the game looked, it just wasn't all that fun to explore for me.
I stopped playing TW3 because a) CDPR started releasing patch after patch and b) was entirely sick of the mundane combat. And as nice as the game looked, it just wasn't all that fun to explore for me.
The Witcher 3 is awesome, I won't disagree, but its such an entirely different beast than the games Bethesda makes that I don't think this is a fair statement to make.