Same people?
Those who do not agree are always the loudest, which is why negative opinions here tend to "steal the show". MGS4 is a classic example of this. Won the gaf-goty in two votings, yet positive comments on that game seem hard to come by.
Fallout 4 - Reviews thread
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Same people?
Those who do not agree are always the loudest, which is why negative opinions here tend to "steal the show". MGS4 is a classic example of this. Won the gaf-goty in two votings, yet positive comments on that game seem hard to come by.
Thanks. Will check it out.
old manatee
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Nocturno999
Member
It's when people try to justify their box of choice's weaknesses and blame the developers.
People were tossing that term in almost every major multiplat release in the PS3 generation.
Lord of Castamere
Member
It's not really weird. It's actually pretty standard affair from what I've seen and I've only been here 2 years. This is actually pretty similar to the gtav run up, where people wanted blood for the sins of gtaiv. The order, Witcher, Destiny, Evolve, etc etc. Standard affair imo, just diffent sizes and causes for the groups. Some are genuine some have agendas etc etc.
Yeah I've actually found that I quite like Forbes' reviews. Erik, Jason, Paul and Todd are all great writers and critics (edit: and I know there are more than just these 4, but these 4 are the ones that caught my attention).
I hate the layout of the site though (ex: why isn't their fallout 4 review at the top of the page?), but I imagine they have little control or input there.
My point is not that frame drops aren't there, they are, it's a fact.
My point is, that to many people they don't impair their enjoyment of a product, and aren't that big a deal.
mobilesworking
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GameCritics - 7/10
Fine Ham Abounds
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MilkyJoe
Member
Maybe he took a path that did not have the significant dip?
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah I remember that dumb crap back then too
Icyflamez96
Member
Kinda Funny's review discussion here just in case someone cares and/or no one posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtT6YdVHLM4
Kenzodielocke
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I can confirm, this is a pretty good game.
Performance issues and the new dialogue system aside.
Performance issues and the new dialogue system aside.
Patrick Bateman
Member
Gametrailers mentioned the severe hardware problems on the PS4, yet they gave it a 9.0/10.
That game must be digital crack..
That game must be digital crack..
GeordieMark
Member
Yeah, there are some odd reviews about. EG end their review with 'caveat emptor', basically meaning 'buyer beware', yet still give it Recommended.
old manatee
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InsaneTiger
Member
My gawd, this thread...
Just wait for the NPD thread on Thursday. Hell just wait for the NPD thread in November. People are going to lose their minds.
Moon_frogger
Member
well.....that's kind of like standing outside in the rain with someone and hearing them remark 'hmmm it might be raining but I haven't noticed it'. I mean.....does he have some sort of special ps4 or copy of the game? Don't get me wrong I love Jim and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but this is extremely odd to me. As far as the thread, I'm glad the game is getting good reviews. I was worried and highly skeptical but I may eventually have to dive in. I've loved every bethesda game ever made but I've also grown weary of the formula over the years. I"m not afraid of a poor framerate or bugs....or even some hard crashes. I've been down this road before with all their games and I still like them.
TheOfficeMut
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Yeah I don't notice framerate drops either.
Maybe someone playing the Xbox version thought that framerate drop to 0 FPS is just the character automatically stopping to observe the environment.
Mad Season
Banned
how could it NOT have? does he have a special PS4?
Krappadizzle
Member
Glad it's reviewing well. I was not expecting such high scores considering all the technical issues. Work couldn't end soon enough today.
Come on, most everyone likes to rubberneck a bit cuz schadenfreude.
And how everyone plays these games is very different as the game is designed to be very open and let you do what you want. How you played the game and what you did probably affects a lot what bugs and glitches and slowdowns you encounter... ever think of that? This isn't a linear game where everyone is mostly going to be acting the same way.
My favorite thing about a thread like this is how many of the people shitting all over the game have it pre-loaded on their PC/PS4/XB1 already. You bitch and moan and complain and at the end of the day will likely still buy the game because technical issues aside, it's going to be awesome and you know it.
Can't wait to fire up this badboy tonight. Happy to see the great reviews.
Can't wait to fire up this badboy tonight. Happy to see the great reviews.
I've yet to see any detailed analysis on the effects of having a voiced player-character, the radical change in dialogue system, and subsequently dialogue-based skill checks. Furthermore, has any review directly compared it to the criticisms of Fallout 3? Specifically the poor world-building, writing, and quest design. Are quests just a series of isolated affairs again? Are they more closely connected to the surrounding world? Is the writing as poor as before? Are we to expect absurdity such as a settlement built around a bomb, vampires, or children-led settlements again? Has Bethesda made any changes to respect the established lore, are running with the problems of Fallout 3, or is it worse? Does the world maintain a level of consistency and logic, or is it a theme park of locations to see? How does the game address the lack of a reputation or karma system? How is the execution of the tiered-level-scaling?
These are but a few of the questions I'd like to know, and while I already have my suspicions, it shouldn't be unreasonable to expect professional critics to address them.
I agree with these questions, especially about the dialogue system, which from the previews I've seen looks restrictive and irritating. I especially don't like what I've been hearing about the decrease in skill checks during dialogue. New Vegas spoiled me, I don't want to go back.
GlamFM
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What an inappropriate comparison.
TheSlySoul
Member
It could have dipped to 22-25 GPS and he did not notice it. Noticeable dip would be 15 FPS like Majora's Mask 3DS.
Putting my money where my mouth is, I won't be playing Fallout 4.
Not worried about technical issues, though they will be present, more worried about poor design.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
The world building makes a little more sense in Fallout 4, but it still very much feels like a bunch of loosely connected locations with different "themes." This is not helped by what feels like a smaller world. The Commonwealth is not a wasteland. It's packed full of stuff.
If you want the lore to follow FO1-2, you will be sad. No spoilers, but there is a massive lore breaking feature that is included as part of the core experience. It follows the lore of FO3 a bit more in that regard.
No karma is excellent. It's about time the series that is ostensibly about survival ditched it.
The voice acting is very good throughout, but the compressed dialogue choices lead to situations and experiences that RPG fans feared. You will pick a response and expect your player to say one thing and get another. Many of the choices you'll be able to pick are just "tones" like "Sarcastic." That is your dialogue choice. It has a massive effect (heh) on the roleplaying aspect. Some people don't care about that. I do.
The characters are the paper dolls from Fallout 3 and not the slightly more nuanced characters from New Vegas. So far, every character that can be a companion asks to join you literally 5 minutes after meeting them (with one notable exception). It's very off putting. Luckily, there is a lone wanderer perk that let's you avoid the companions altogether, if that's your thing.
Overall, as one of the RPG Old Guard, this is a disappointing step back from New Vegas in every way. On the other hand, I can have fun with it for what it is, which is a silly, nuclear sandbox to go play it. It's going to piss off the hardcore RPG fans immensely.
Based off the reviews, sounds like I shouldn't expect anything up to par with New Vegas' narrative (which I expected considering this is Bethesda). That's fine - I don't mind playing dumb, vegging out, and probably smoking a blunt while exploring the wasteland.
However, I think I'll wait until the game gets a few patches.
However, I think I'll wait until the game gets a few patches.
BenjaminBirdie
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This is possibly the greatest post in the history of GAF
Yeah I don't notice framerate drops either.
Wow... that xbox one.. i actually noticed that pause (and if you look at my posts regarding framerate you'd realize how bad that is cause I in general am pretty happily oblivious to frame rate in general).
Screaming Meat
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MiguelItUp
Member
Because he didn't notice something? That doesn't make him full of shit by any means. Honestly I'm well aware of issues with technicalities and engines, especially if they're worth complaining about. But I will say there was already one video I saw that people flipped out about where I saw nothing staggering.
could you not
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
A lot of the reviews have highlighted the story and characters you meet as a big step up, emotional and quality.
The companions also are getting a lot of praise which is aces
InsaneTiger
Member
He's just saying he didn't notice. Chill dude.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, it could be possible. Pretty sure you can avoid the boss creatures. Seems that is where it majorly dips.
Does it have immortal NPCs like FO3 or can you kill anyone at any time like in NV?
Good god, man. Possibly ban-worthy.