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February WrassleGAF |BO-T| And Bo-ing is Half the Battle
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I loved the Biker Taker gimmick. He beat the shit out of guys but looked awesome doing it. Grew a bit tired of the Deadman gimmick once he returned to it - the Ministry version was pretty nice, though.
Mr. Luchador
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Shawn Stasiak's 'failed run in attacks' on WWF wrestlers during the InVasion angle is pretty goofy, but still funny.
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WCW 2001 and Beyond Fantasy Booking update.
The final show before The Great American Bash PPV.
Before the show Cash provoked, then attacked, Buff Bagwell leading to a fight which had to be broken up by several wrestlers.
July Week 2 2001
WCW Saturday Night #2 (1 hour show on F/X)
Commentary Team: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay & Stevie Ray.
7,430 @ Pepsi Coliseum
Dark Match: Shannon Moore v Shark Boy
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but non-existent crowd heat, Shannon Moore defeated Shark Boy in 9:57 by pinfall with a Mooregasm. (E+)
Dark Match: Air Raid v Harris Brothers
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but non-existent crowd heat, Harris Brothers defeated Air Raid in 10:22 when Don Harris defeated Air Paris by pinfall with a H-Bomb. (D-)
Dark Match: Chris Kanyon v Hugh Morrus
In a match that had some good action and average heat, Kanyon defeated Hugh Morrus in 15:21 by pinfall. (C-)
- The show opens with Mike Tenay, Tony Schiavone and Stevie Ray discussing last week's show. They talk about Booker T's desire to be a good WCW Heavyweight Champion. How he won the title on the 'last ever' Nitro and thought his dream had gone with it. Now that WCW is back Booker is determined to show the world how much of a great wrestler he is, and that WCW is back. (D-)
- 'Fight for the Gold' Match: Johnny Swinger v Lance Storm
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but not much in the way of heat, Lance Storm defeated Johnny Swinger in 15:26 by submission with a Canadian Maple Leaf. (D+)
- A single, familiar mask slowly fades into shot. (D+)
- Sirens. HOlla if you hear me. Scott Steiner makes his way to the ring. He talks about how Booker T makes him sick. Booker might have won the title, and he might be a 'fighting champion', but who the hell is Mike Awesome? If Booker T was a fighting champion he'd fight a real man, a genetic freak. Scott Steinr wants Booker T to show himself and defend the title. (B-)
- WCW Cruiserweight Title Match: Cash v Gregory Helms (c)
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but not much in the way of heat, Gregory Helms defeated Cash in 10:18 by pinfall with a Vertebreaker. Gregory Helms makes defence number 1 of his WCW Cruiserweight title. (D-)
- Scott Steiner is in the ring again. Still no sign of Booker T. Suddenly familiar music plays... 'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!' It's Jim Duggan! 'You wanna fight, tough guy!?' (C)
- Match: Jim Duggan v Scott Steiner
In an extremely short match, Scott Steiner defeated Jim Duggan in 5:15 by submission. (C-)
- After the match Steiner starts to throw Duggan around like a rag doll, beating him down and locking him back into the Steiner Recleiner. Duggan passes out. It looks like Steiner is about to attack Duggan with the 4x4 plank when... (C)
- Lex Luger runs in to save Jim Duggan, grabbing the 4x4 first. Steiner leaves the ring, shouting trademark Steiner ad-lib abuse at Luger. (D+)
Show ends.
TV Rating: 0.27 (down from 0.28 the previous week)
(Another 'poor show' according to TEW13, with popularity loses in 10 regions. The general feeling is that there are no interesting storylines at the moment. On the plus side Scott Steiner came out of the show looking good. However, Steiner was annoyed by being scripted during his promo! I have a feeling that the PPV will suffer from a lack of real build up/only 2 hours of TV so far
Basically at this point there's only 1 real match for The Great American Bash:
US Title: Billy Kidman v Lance Storm).
Billy Kidman and Lance Storm have both qualified for the 'Fight for the Gold' match so far. Who will win?
Booker T promised last week to be a true fighting champion, yet he didn't appear this week. Where was Booker T? Will he appear at The Great American Bash tomorrow?
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WCW 2001 and Beyond Fantasy Booking update.
The final show before The Great American Bash PPV.
Before the show Cash provoked, then attacked, Buff Bagwell leading to a fight which had to be broken up by several wrestlers.
July Week 2 2001
WCW Saturday Night #2 (1 hour show on F/X)
Commentary Team: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay & Stevie Ray.
7,430 @ Pepsi Coliseum
Dark Match: Shannon Moore v Shark Boy
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but non-existent crowd heat, Shannon Moore defeated Shark Boy in 9:57 by pinfall with a Mooregasm. (E+)
Dark Match: Air Raid v Harris Brothers
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but non-existent crowd heat, Harris Brothers defeated Air Raid in 10:22 when Don Harris defeated Air Paris by pinfall with a H-Bomb. (D-)
Dark Match: Chris Kanyon v Hugh Morrus
In a match that had some good action and average heat, Kanyon defeated Hugh Morrus in 15:21 by pinfall. (C-)
- The show opens with Mike Tenay, Tony Schiavone and Stevie Ray discussing last week's show. They talk about Booker T's desire to be a good WCW Heavyweight Champion. How he won the title on the 'last ever' Nitro and thought his dream had gone with it. Now that WCW is back Booker is determined to show the world how much of a great wrestler he is, and that WCW is back. (D-)
- 'Fight for the Gold' Match: Johnny Swinger v Lance Storm
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but not much in the way of heat, Lance Storm defeated Johnny Swinger in 15:26 by submission with a Canadian Maple Leaf. (D+)
- A single, familiar mask slowly fades into shot. (D+)
- Sirens. HOlla if you hear me. Scott Steiner makes his way to the ring. He talks about how Booker T makes him sick. Booker might have won the title, and he might be a 'fighting champion', but who the hell is Mike Awesome? If Booker T was a fighting champion he'd fight a real man, a genetic freak. Scott Steinr wants Booker T to show himself and defend the title. (B-)
- WCW Cruiserweight Title Match: Cash v Gregory Helms (c)
In a bout that had solid in-ring action but not much in the way of heat, Gregory Helms defeated Cash in 10:18 by pinfall with a Vertebreaker. Gregory Helms makes defence number 1 of his WCW Cruiserweight title. (D-)
- Scott Steiner is in the ring again. Still no sign of Booker T. Suddenly familiar music plays... 'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!' It's Jim Duggan! 'You wanna fight, tough guy!?' (C)
- Match: Jim Duggan v Scott Steiner
In an extremely short match, Scott Steiner defeated Jim Duggan in 5:15 by submission. (C-)
- After the match Steiner starts to throw Duggan around like a rag doll, beating him down and locking him back into the Steiner Recleiner. Duggan passes out. It looks like Steiner is about to attack Duggan with the 4x4 plank when... (C)
- Lex Luger runs in to save Jim Duggan, grabbing the 4x4 first. Steiner leaves the ring, shouting trademark Steiner ad-lib abuse at Luger. (D+)
Show ends.
TV Rating: 0.27 (down from 0.28 the previous week)
(Another 'poor show' according to TEW13, with popularity loses in 10 regions. The general feeling is that there are no interesting storylines at the moment. On the plus side Scott Steiner came out of the show looking good. However, Steiner was annoyed by being scripted during his promo! I have a feeling that the PPV will suffer from a lack of real build up/only 2 hours of TV so far
Basically at this point there's only 1 real match for The Great American Bash:
US Title: Billy Kidman v Lance Storm).
Billy Kidman and Lance Storm have both qualified for the 'Fight for the Gold' match so far. Who will win?
Booker T promised last week to be a true fighting champion, yet he didn't appear this week. Where was Booker T? Will he appear at The Great American Bash tomorrow?
This is how I see it playing out. The Rock is going to cut a promo and start calling Paul Heyman Twinkie tits again. The Undertaker is going to hear the word "Twinkie" and run out in an angered daze. "They don't even make those anymore, where the fuck are they?" After finding that there are, in fact, no Twinkies for him, he'll go in to a rage and pick a fight with the first person he sees. CM Punk will be out there with Paul Heyman and will be collateral damage. RAW fades to black with the Deadman yelling "I'm gonna eat his tits!" while pointing at Heyman with his eyes rolled back in his head.
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avengers23
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I started thinking about wrestling tournaments last night. Here's what I could remember:
ROH
World title tournament
Race to the Top Tournament
Survival of the Fittest tournament
PWG
DDT4
Battle of Los Angeles
Chikara
Tag World Grand Prix/King of Trios
Rey de Voladores
Young Lions Cup tournament
IWA-MS (defunct)
Ted Petty Invitational
CZW
Best of the Best
Tournament of Death
ECWA
Super 8
WWE
King of the Ring
Brawl for All
TNA
Fight for the Right tournament
Are there any other notable tournaments I've forgotten?
ROH
World title tournament
Race to the Top Tournament
Survival of the Fittest tournament
PWG
DDT4
Battle of Los Angeles
Chikara
Tag World Grand Prix/King of Trios
Rey de Voladores
Young Lions Cup tournament
IWA-MS (defunct)
Ted Petty Invitational
CZW
Best of the Best
Tournament of Death
ECWA
Super 8
WWE
King of the Ring
Brawl for All
TNA
Fight for the Right tournament
Are there any other notable tournaments I've forgotten?
This should be a monthly feature in the OP.
That time after CM Punk left and Rey Mysterio won a tournament to be crowned WWE Champion, only for John Cena to show up and be a colossal cockbag, forcing Rey to defend his title later that same night for no reason, and Cena won because CENA.
Punk is in amazing cardiovascular shape, and that's far far more important for a wrestler than how much they can lift or their body fat percentage.
He regularly runs half marathons and I think has run 1 or 2 full marathons.
Being jacked with muscles weighs you down, and hurts your stamina in the ring.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll263/johnlowe316/CmPunk2.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/B/D/-/-/cmpunk.jpg
Even though Punk has extra pudge now compared to how he looks in the 2nd link I posted, he's probably still in better wrestling shape than in the first pic from his indy days.
Unless your opponent is sandbagging, you just don't need the muscles to lift your opponent all that much. Most of the slams and suplexes performed in the ring simply involve the person receiving the suplex or slam jumping, and the person "delivering" the move just redirecting their momentum. In the ring, you're doing lots of jumping, running, repetitions of going from a horizontal to a vertical position (and back again). Not lifting.
I'd rather see a wrestler have the physique of CM Punk or Daniel Bryan than John Cena or The Rock.
And then for some reason we were supposed to think there was a "controversy" of who the REAL WWE champion was between CM Punk and John Cena, even though the order of events went like this:
*CM Punk cleanly beats Cena for the title*
*8 Days later, John Cena beats a fatigued Rey Mysterio for the fake title*
British Monsoon
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Here's a few more;
PWG - Tango & Cash Invitational, Bad Ass Mother 3000 PWG Title Tournament
ROH - Field of Honor, Best of the American Super Jr's, Trios Tournament
TNA - Super/America/World X-Cup Tournament, Chris Candido Cup
And some Japanese promotions;
AJPW - Champion Carnvial, Junior League, World's Strongest Tag Team League, Junior Tag Team League
Dragon Gate - King of Gate, King of Chop, Summer Adventure Tag League
NJPW - G1 Climax, Best of the Super Jr's, World Tag League, New Japan Cup, Young Lion Cup, Super Jr's Tag Tournament
NOAH - Global League, Global Tag League, Junior League, Jr. Heavyweight TV Cup Tag League
Also, IWA-MS are no longer defunct (Ian got some money marks to actually buy the promotion, and then carry on letting him book it, lol) but the TPI is.
Part of being a pro wrestler is looking like a bad ass, and part of looking like a bad ass is looking huge.
You're describing the physical mechanics of conducting a pro wrestling match, but pro wrestling is in-ring skill + psychology + look + gimmick + mic work + presence etc.
I think the Punk stuff is overblown because he has a unique look (tats) to create a "bad ass rebel" look, but if he was tattoo free, it'd be real hard to take him seriously as a threat to anyone.
spindashing
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I'm going to start turning the best WrestleGAF posts into images. You can't stop me.
I love of the talk of Punk and Bryan being brought up in the merchandise talk as if they sold out and we're marks for buying these products. I seem to remember a fuckton of smoking skull shirts and Austin 3:16 shirts back in the day...marks will be marks and the WWE will continue to try and make money via tshirts and other merchandise.
British Monsoon
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Shit, well someone better tell Dusty Rhodes that he's not ever going to get anywhere in this business looking like that. And Bob Backlund, while they're at it. And Mick Foley, too.
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To quote:
"Worldwide Wrestling Entertainment -- or WWE -- a wildly popular world with characters like "Hacksaw," "Dr. Death" and "Road Warrior Hawk." is now in the forefront of the immigration battle. Seriously. In its latest skit to promote its big fight, between Alberto del Rio and Jack Swagger -- is two guys impersonating intolerant Tea Party members opposed to immigration. This offended talk show host and Tea Party champion Glenn Beck, who said: "The WWE now has put a new character out that is demonizing the tea party...I can take it from a lot of people ... but not the stupid wrestling people, especially since I would imagine a lot of people watching are not the New York Elites." WWE swung back -- saying, hey Glenn -- did you know 20 percent of WWE fans are Hispanic? So chill out -- it's just entertainment. "Many of your followers are WWE fans and they understand the difference between reality and entertainment," said Zeb Colter. "Are you out of touch with your audience, Glenn? Or are you just a stupid political commentator?" WWE invited Beck to appear on "Monday Night Raw" for a rebuttal. But, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Beck declined. Seems he's busy that night.
Talk Back: Will the WWE magic work for immigration?"
A shame that 2/3 named superstars are dead.
Well Bob and Dusty were a different era, you know that. When everyone looked like Arn Anderson and the Steamboat types were circus freak show oddities, it's easier.
But as I said in the post, having a unique look (Mick, Dusty) helps. As does the gimmick. It's a total package, and someone looking like they can physically beat up their opponent matters.
Picking guys on the WWE roster, looking like you can beat up your opponent can mean 1) looking like a bodybuilder (Cena), 2) being huge (Big Show), 3) being huge and fat (Brodus Clay), 4) looking like you're crazy (Punk). The CM Punk fat criticism is overblown in importance because he's so good elsewhere, but a guy's look does matter.
It's pro wrestling. It's a show. Appearance is part of the show.
dirtyjfosho
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Whats up guys.
Long time reader here but never really post too much. BUT! Im watching the youtube video of Glenn Beck trashing on WWE. Got a few things to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40lnosLzE4M
So its ok if he don't like WWE but if you listen at the begining he slams anyone that watches it. Also the way he starts going into it and calls all the wrestles stupid and mocks them? Breaking down the swagger character and ripping it apart.
Either this is all a part of it or not I can not wait till tonight to see WWE SMASH this tool.
Long time reader here but never really post too much. BUT! Im watching the youtube video of Glenn Beck trashing on WWE. Got a few things to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40lnosLzE4M
So its ok if he don't like WWE but if you listen at the begining he slams anyone that watches it. Also the way he starts going into it and calls all the wrestles stupid and mocks them? Breaking down the swagger character and ripping it apart.
Either this is all a part of it or not I can not wait till tonight to see WWE SMASH this tool.
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dirtyjfosho
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LOL just seen that. it was a wrestlezone
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Bo Dallas to fight Glenn Beck.
Stand Up For Bo Dallas!
Stand Up For Bo Dallas!
British Monsoon
Member
Of course, but not everyone is the total package - you've got the accentuate the positives and disguise the negatives, and if Punk's negative is that he isn't as cut as half the guys on the roster, then you build up his experience, his tenacity, his viciousness, anything to show that he has the advantage in any given situation. Personally, I think the 'Punk's fat', 'Punk doesn't look like a champion' stuff only ever comes up because they don't do enough to make him look like a threat, to make him look tough and dangerous, to make him look like a guy who can systematically dismantle and damage anyone on the roster, regardless of if they have a superior physique. It's a problem with much of their heel booking nowadays, I find. Unless a guy is a physical monster, he's getting booked as a chikenshit.
Luger, the only true total package.
FallingEdge
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Ryback should have the Torture Rack as his finisher.
Scratch that. Cesaro vs Miz. Submission Match.
Cesaro win via Torture Rack.
Scratch that. Cesaro vs Miz. Submission Match.
Cesaro win via Torture Rack.
OMG, this is so fucking hilarious. They're staring into the mirror of their idiocy and they're trying their damndest to explain it away.
Well-done, Vince. You've done it again.
Backlund was in great shape. He was a guy who may not have had much definition, but had zero chub and looked and was strong as fuck. He had a body comparable to D-Bryne.
Fuck you for making me look even more mediocre.
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I'm also going to buy the land that Fife is situated on and rename it Harmonica. And begin Harmonica Wrestling School without having any knowledge on the wrestling. I will name the first wrestleman through the school Big Huge Hungry Hungry Hippo Horatio. The other will be called The Big Dipper.
British Monsoon
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And, like D-Brine, there were a lot of naysayers who thought he was too small to ever be a draw.
"Town crier, I'd like to ask you a few questions. One, where's the fife? And two, gimmie the fife."
Nice, you play harmonica? I'm trying to learn, but it's a bitch. I think I'm doing something wrong, need to sort my breathing out as I get too out of breath playing.
Also, I think it would be nigh on impossible to play both fife and harmonica at the same time, unless you quickly alternated between the two, or used another orifice to provide wind to the fife...
I'm trying to get betterer I took it up a few years ago and sort of plateaued but have recently got back into it.
When you draw you need to breathe in from the nose as well sometimes. You could have a straw coming from your mouth to the fife it's got to work!
Officerrob
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They better not go overboard with the Glenn Beck crap tonight
slightconfuse
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He runs on Belief Engines, much like Magus' dudes in Cosmic Marvel.
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British Monsoon
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If I was going to RAW, I'd make a 'Cena fears Zandig' sign. And a 'WrassleGAF <3's Kane' sign.
Thanks for the tip, I kind of forget all about breathing through my nose when playing, then my lungs gets all confused, lol.
Genius! But still, it sounds very tricky to play. Record a video of your attempts, for science!
Laserfrog said:
Thanks for the tip, I kind of forget all about breathing through my nose when playing, then my lungs gets all confused, lol.
Laserfrog said:
Genius! But still, it sounds very tricky to play. Record a video of your attempts, for science!
Liquidsnake
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I come for the pics and GIFS. Especially of hot indie women.
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My old "KISS HIM ALREADY" sign never made it onto TV
But my REGAL one did.
But my REGAL
one did.Similar threads
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