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Fighting Games Weekly | Apr 27 - May 3 | NeoGAF actually plays games?!

Rhapsody

Banned
Solid game. Recently decided to invest more time in it since I haven't unlocked all the single player content. Just keep in mind that netplay is region locked.

Yeah. At this point, I might get it just for fun labbing as opposed to a scene I want to get into.

A lot of the mechanics interest me.
 
Though when you start including Hybrids shit gets even more confusing and hard to place. You could even argue that Justin is a Spike/Timmy or a Johnny/Spike.
It's not that that difficult to categorize players into psychographics as long as you remember the central tenets of each (Timmy wants to experience something, Johnny wants to express something, Spike wants to prove something). Justin is pure Spike even if he uses unconventional teams. There's a difference between saying something like "everybody says Mewtwo is shit, but I'll show everybody he's viable" and "I play Mewtwo because I feel the most comfortable winning with him despite what other people say about him". If you listen to interviews with Justin he's always insists on saying the second thing and not the first.
 

gutabo

Member
Hoodaman's mom passed away today.

Deepest condolences to him and his family.

Hooman Ghahremani
My Mom passed away today at 1:45pm,
You were the strongest person I had ever met in my life. You endured so much to raise me as a single parent in a foreign country. I definitely was not the best kid in the world so I hope these last few years of being your care giver made up for some of that. I am so sad to see you go but also so happy your pain and suffering are finally over. God willing you are resting in paradise......
 
Hitboxes are a more accurate and consistent input method than traditional joysticks, I am shocked.

I'm still annoyed that they don't want to split the up direction and add another button above the Left/Down/Right buttons. Makes certain inputs or Shmups way easier.
 

alstein

Member
Yeah. At this point, I might get it just for fun labbing as opposed to a scene I want to get into.

A lot of the mechanics interest me.

It's the only anime game I've ever liked, though it could use some Mike Z love in terms of reducing stupid motions. (you can tell the devs got their start on SamSho games)

Allow me to spam mikos and I'll like it.
 

Tizoc

Member
You're Russian?! I had no idea. Man, Gaf really is international.

Nah I'm from middle east, haha.
But back in the day we could get steam games for cheap from Russian traders. We could get them for like half off their US or EU price even.
Which was one way many of us managed to get such as huge steam library ;P
 
I'm using Juicebox's secret footsies training tech in tandem with watching my replays against DBJ to become the ultimate Juri counterpick monster.

I'm coming for you, DBJ! 'Bout to get some wins off that Poison for real.

As soon as I learn how to beat this goddamn HP Fireball and cMK. Goddamn.
 

kirblar

Member
Ok, wtf is a spike, timmy, and johnny? Did these terms just get created or something?
Tmmy= plays for an emotioal rush
Johnny= plays to express creativity
Spike= plays to murder people and chew bubblegum, and he's all out of bubblegum

They're helpful because they're pretty broadly applicable to different types of players you need to cater to.
 
When I think of Spike players I think of Tokido and Viscant. Identify what is top tier or cheap and then pick it/main it.

<3

One thing I really appreciate Tokido for is that when he's picked his cheap stuff, he sticks with it even through the bad matchups (few as they may be).

So now we have more names for calling someone a tierwhore?

Spike =/= tier whore, though it's obviously common enough. A spike is someone who gets his joy from winning (or, depending on the subtypes, doing things like refining his own play/team construction or finding the broken stuff). One part of playing to win can be playing stuff that clicks with you so you play well naturally.

It's about what a person is like overall, not a specific checklist where all items need to check out to be something.

Also, hybrid types are a thing. As the second article notes:
Timmy/Spike is torn. He wants to win, yet he also wants to have fun. To solve this dilemma, he searches among the viable decks for the one that seems like it will be the most fun to play. Timmy/Spike is the guy who goes out of his way to play a dragon in his deck. Not one that shouldn't be played, mind you. But if there's a dragon that makes sense, Timmy/Spike is all over it.

Wait I'm confused and haven't been reading

What's this Johnny Spike stuff

Some guy who plays Magic the Gathering categorized the player base falling into 3 archetypes:

Timmy: Casual player, gets impressed by something cool and tries to use that to win. Doesn't care if it's actually good or not. In fighting games this would be a low tier hero (though not necessarily).

Spike: aka Tier enthusiast, picks to win etc.

Johnny: Some what in between Timmy and Spike. Obviously plays to win but tries to do so on his term and playstyle.

Not "Some guy", but Magic R&D. The guy who posted the articles is the game's head designer.

http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr11b
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr220b

Also your distillations of the player types are horrible. They correlate a bit with what characters people pick, but aren't solely about that at all. They're an attempt to answer the question "Why does someone play our game".
LMAO!

Tell us how you REALLY feel.

Hey, I do that. I want to play so many games so if I can pick something like 3S Chun or Faust who's strong and doesn't need much lab time for research or grinding out long/hard combos, I'm golden.
 
Spike: Ricky, pre-SF4 Justin, Sanford, Tokido, Kindevu, Marlin Pie

Johnny: Combofiend

Timmy: Juri Players

Combo monsters are Timmies, IMO. Timmy likes big splashy things. Big numbers, huge effects, that kind of stuff. It's why big dumb huge monsters used to be called Timmy cards back in the day.
 
I just realized that this guy at locals that spams Ness' PK Thunder 2 is a Timmy. He will die 4/5 times after getting punished, but when that 20% comes through, he is so happy and says "That is what I was going for!" He just loves seeing PK Thunder 2 go off. I thought he was just an idiot, and I think that is still debatable, but it makes a little more sense to me in some maddening way.
 
I just realized that this guy at locals that spams Ness' PK Thunder 2 is a Timmy. He will die 4/5 times after getting punished, but when that 20% comes through, he is so happy and says "That is what I was going for!" He just loves seeing PK Thunder 2 go off. I thought he was just an idiot, and I think that is still debatable, but it makes a little more sense to me in some maddening way.

One of the best points of different personality typology systems is helping people grok just how different other people's way of seeing the world is, to the point of being completely alien and incomprehensible. The Timmy/Johnny/Spike one is primitive but really useful.
 
One of the best points of different personality typology systems is helping people grok just how different other people's way of seeing the world is, to the point of being completely alien and incomprehensible.
He still drives me nuts. I got stuck with him in doubles, and I said, "Okay, while we are partners, can you try not to spam PK Thunder 2?"

His response? "I...can't promise that."

I changed my team color.
 

gelf

Member
I'm going to fully admit to being a Timmy at times in a lot of games. Sometimes I just want to try to do cool shit and not worry about the competition. Its why I'm a big fan of single player modes so I can do that without pissing off people taking it more seriously.

Some fighters I make more of an effort with but I'd never pick a main just because they're top tier. Certainly not a Spike.
 
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