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[Tik-Tok]

Went to A&C today.

Count and Tik Tok still shook n not tryna see me smh

My dude what city do I live in?
See me at the the auto shop. Seriously though come through some time soon. Gary's runnin a 2 Dolla winner take all alt character tourney. Bring that bum ass Makoto.


What day is actual A&C tourneys on? I've got nothing going on tomorrow.

 

[Kadey]

Who is that goofy black guy? And I'm not talking about Mike.

 

[mbpm1]

Lmao Nacer

 

[vulva]

My dude what city do I live in?
See me at the the auto shop. Seriously though come through some time soon. Gary's runnin a 2 Dolla winner take all alt character tourney. Bring that bum ass Makoto.


What day is actual A&C tourneys on? I've got nothing going on tomorrow.

Wednesdays, come on by. We'll bro chill

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Wasn't the reason why Justin picked Rufus is because people called him lame. East Coast played a lame style.

That's why I said he frames himself as a johnny. He said he wanted to play Rufus to be entertaining. No one at the time thought Rufus was entertaining. Still did it. The real reasons were that 1. Messiah kick had a shit ton of invincibility 2. comboing into ultra in vanilla was a big deal and rufus could combo into ultra off of pretty much anything 3. instant divekicks were thought to be really dumb thing to put in street fighter. Of the anti street fighter designs in the game, it was thought that Rufus was the strongest.

Dahbomb doesn't know a lot of Japanese players. He names drops Tokido, but he isn't the only player who plays to win. Kindevu was another player known to only play characters he considered strong, like Tokido. He picked Rufus in vanilla, like Justin. In fact, all of what would later be EG, Ricky Ortiz, Floe, Marn were using Rufus.


Johnny likes a challenge. Johnny enjoys winning with cards that no one else wants to use. He likes making decks that win in innovative ways. What sets Johnny apart from the other profiles is that Johnny enjoys deckbuilding as much as (or more than) he enjoys playing. Johnny loves the cool interactions of the cards. He loves combo decks. Johnny is happiest when he’s exploring uncharted territory.

Rufus certainly wasn't unexplored territory in vanilla.

 

[Anne]

There a lot more Spikes than you guys think, some of them just suck is all. This is like some next level OSing.

 

[fader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WACeJpXEq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1r82kmXSPo

let's help them remember

let's dig into history tho!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDx648Nnb60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eCqREHcxPw

 

[Parallax Scroll]

But I still consider his defensive/patient play to be his single greatest attribute as a fighting game player.

I think it's his ability to see the future.

It's uncanny listening to him on commentary when he calls everyone's moves before they happen.

 

[Dahbomb]

Dahbomb doesn't know a lot of Japanese players. He names drops Tokido, but he isn't the only player who plays to win. Kindevu was another player known to only play characters he considered strong, like Tokido. He picked Rufus in vanilla, like Justin. In fact, all of what would later be EG, Ricky Ortiz, Floe, Marn were using Rufus.

I don't know a lot of Japanese players but I do know of Kindevu and I do know that he used to play Rufus. I just used Tokido as an example because he's one of the best example there is of that player archetype.

 

[Laconic]

I think it's his ability to see the future.

It's uncanny listening to him on commentary when he calls everyone's moves before they happen.

He downloads people really, really well.

This coupled with his superb understanding of fundamentals and mind games, is what makes him so good. His actual physical execution is secondary to his wins, IMO.

 

[Professor Beef]

How can you guys be watching Mike Ross when there's high level VF happening?

Because VF is fucking boring zzzz

 

[vulva]

So now we have more names for calling someone a tierwhore?

 

[mbpm1]

Poongko in one minute.

 

[Dahbomb]

So now we have more names for calling someone a tierwhore?

Spike is more tasteful than tier whore.

I personally prefer the term "tier enthusiast".

 

[Kumubou]

Because VF is fucking boring zzzz

Professor Beef hating on UNIEL and VF in the same day? Yikes, it's like you're allergic to good games.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

Poongko in one minute.

This is a good video.

 

[vulva]

Spike is more tasteful than tier whore.

I personally prefer the term "tier enthusiast".

See that's 3 names for the same thing. I wanna learn fighting games, not a language!

 

[irfaanator]

Poongko in one minute.

i wish the part of him dancing wasnt cut with just images of daigo

 

[SloaneRisette]

Wait I'm confused and haven't been reading

What's this Johnny Spike stuff

 

[Dahbomb]

See that's 3 names for the same thing. I wanna learn fighting games, not a language!

Spike/Timmy/Johnny is just a Magic thing, it's harder to use for fighting games. No one really should be using for fighting games, we were just doing it for the sake of discussion here. It's not like you can construct your own character in a fighting game, it can really only apply to MVC3 where you can construct your own teams.

Tier whore I never liked because it gives a bad connotation to players who pick the best in order to increase their chances of winning. It sounds too much like scrub talk and one of those mind games/OSes that pro players like to use to belittle each other.

Tier enthusiast is more tasteful.

What's this Johnny Spike stuff

Some guy who plays Magic the Gathering categorized the player base falling into 3 archetypes:

Timmy: Casual player, gets impressed by something cool and tries to use that to win. Doesn't care if it's actually good or not. In fighting games this would be a low tier hero (though not necessarily).

Spike: aka Tier enthusiast, picks to win etc.

Johnny: Some what in between Timmy and Spike. Obviously plays to win but tries to do so on his term and playstyle.

 

[Professor Beef]

Professor Beef hating on UNIEL and VF in the same day? Yikes, it's like you're allergic to good games.

VF is boring, not bad. Uniel is both.

 

[mbpm1]

Wait I'm confused and haven't been reading

What's this Johnny Spike stuff

Idk, Johnny is Daigo back when he wanted to "express himself" with Ryu and then got bopped by Infiltration over and over again and Spike is Daigo after he picked a top tier with Eryu and started winning?

 

["God's Beard!"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WACeJpXEq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1r82kmXSPo

let's help them remember

I always wanted a T-shirt of the Kuroda thumbs-up.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

Bum at the venue with MKX. It doesn't even have fucked up audio levels!

http://www.twitch.tv/bum1six3

 

[BadWolf]

How can you guys be watching Mike Ross when there's high level VF happening?

This is the first tourney I'm watching on my new internet connection, was only able to watch medium quality before but now source is no issue. So good.

 

[vulva]

Spike/Timmy/Johnny is just a Magic thing, it's harder to use for fighting games. No one really should be using for fighting games, we were just doing it for the sake of discussion here. It's not like you can construct your own character in a fighting game, it can really only apply to MVC3 where you can construct your own teams.

Tier whore I never liked because it gives a bad connotation to players who pick the best in order to increase their chances of winning. It sounds too much like scrub talk and one of those mind games/OSes that pro players like to use to belittle each other.

Tier enthusiast is more tasteful.

Fighting games and being tasteful never seem to happen anyways.

Tier slut!

 

[mbpm1]

Tier slut!

Oh no, here comes Wizard

 

[Parallax Scroll]

Oh shit Yipes is there crowd monstering. He doesn't even have a mic but you can hear him anyway.

 

[vocab]

There's a difference between playing to win with a top character versus picking a top character because you are a lazy piece of shit. There will always be the floe/nerdjosh's of the world no matter what the game is. I blame the devs who cater to that shit too, and that's why I hate xrd.

 

[Malice215]

The salt is real right now.

http://www.twitch.tv/yomi_gaming

 

[Dahbomb]

There's a difference between playing to win with a top character versus picking a top character because you are a lazy piece of shit. There will always be the floe/nerdjosh's of the world no matter what the game is. I blame the devs who cater to that shit too, and that's why I hate xrd.

LMAO!

Tell us how you REALLY feel.

 

[zeroroute]

AH3 Love Max on sale is rather tempting.

Solid game. Recently decided to invest more time in it since I haven't unlocked all the single player content. Just keep in mind that netplay is region locked.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

YESSSS- hope this stays a regular thing. Would love more fighting game podcasts in general.

All the episodes have been really good so far.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

kirblar why did you link the original player psychographics article instead of the updated version that the author prefers people to read first. I think some of the people here are falling into the traps caused by the original article
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr220b

 

[Parallax Scroll]

The salt is real right now.

http://www.twitch.tv/yomi_gaming

LOL we've got wireless controller shenanigans.

 

[zlatko]

Anyone ever get into a weird rut? I think I ran into this on a few other fighters, but it's happening here in MKX.

I can win a LOT with Takeda. I think I have an 85% win ratio or something like that...but it's not fun.

I messed with the whole cast, and the characters I want to play that I like I am pure garbage with.

In SF4 I am ass with Decapre, but I love playing her, and so I enjoy losing a jiggaton on there in order to get better with her and the wins I get feel much better.

Here though the two I mainly want to play (Cassie C and Reptile) just feel...awkward in my hands to use.

I hope Tremor is the character I want. The cast is great, but the flow for footsies, etc isn't with a good chunk of the cast to me. Blah.

 

[Azure J]

LMAO!

Tell us how you REALLY feel.

I've popped into the threads increasingly rarely (stupid school and job hunting), but every time I see vocab post lately, it's like we need to ask him where on the doll Xrd touched him. Holy shit. :lol

 

[Dahbomb]

kirblar why did you link the original player psychographics article instead of the updated version that the author prefers people to read first. I think some of the people here are falling into the traps caused by the original article
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/mr220b

Categories within categories?

Nah man that's too much even for me.

Though Tokido/Viscant are most definitely "Innovators" among the Spike category (though they aren't looking to get any credit for it, don't know why that is even in there).

Daigo is Nuts and Bolts Spike player.


Also apparently "Vorthos" is a fancy term for stream monsters.

 

[Malice215]

LOL we've got wireless controller shenanigans.

I love that Bibulus has mics picking up the crowd audio which makes these shenanigans even more hilarious.

 

[PureYeti]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";161954425]Still the best stage in any fighting game:

[/QUOTE]

Any cloudy or rain stage is always the best

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Idk, Johnny is Daigo back when he wanted to "express himself" with Ryu and then got bopped by Infiltration over and over again and Spike is Daigo after he picked a top tier with Eryu and started winning?

No he wanted to try Evil Ryu before he was thought to be top tier so he's still Johnny in Justin Wong terms.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

What about when Justin spent all that time playing Iron Fist? That's Timmy if anything. Maybe Timmy/Johnny.

 

[Aldurin]

Hey, first time poking around in NeoGAF's fighting game community. I don't know if this is the right thread to ask but I don't see other active threads going on about this gaming sector.

I'm looking to go to EVO (definitely next year if I can't make it for this year) to participate in the SSB Melee tournament and possibly the Smash 4 tournament. Is there anything an outsider from the fighting game community should know that isn't immediately obvious? What are the best ways to find good practicing conditions to be competitive at this level?

 

[Dahbomb]

What about when Justin spent all that time playing Iron Fist? That's Timmy if anything. Maybe Timmy/Johnny.

Timmy would've been if he still continued to play Iron Fist and only played the game for fun. He pushed the character to the limits even trying out multiple new characters to make the most optimum teams (Spencer + Strange) but it just didn't work out. At some point, Iron Fist is not able to express the level of play that Justin is capable of because the character is far too limited.

Of the sub categories, Justin is an "Uber Johnny" IMO. He is stubborn almost to a fault. He was stubborn when people told him to drop Storm and he was stubborn when people told him that Rufus wasn't a good fit for him. For whatever reason he still stuck with the characters, maybe to prove to something, maybe to express himself through the characters.

Though when you start including Hybrids shit gets even more confusing and hard to place. You could even argue that Justin is a Spike/Timmy or a Johnny/Spike.

 

[Passive Assassin]

Hey, first time poking around in NeoGAF's fighting game community. I don't know if this is the right thread to ask but I don't see other active threads going on about this gaming sector.

I'm looking to go to EVO (definitely next year if I can't make it for this year) to participate in the SSB Melee tournament and possibly the Smash 4 tournament. Is there anything an outsider from the fighting game community should know that isn't immediately obvious? What are the best ways to find good practicing conditions to be competitive at this level?

find your local smash scene and practice with them.

 

[Tizoc]

Everybody with a PS3 go buy UNIEL/Under Night InBirth.

Where do I get 4 dollar lunches and how do you have so many games on Steam?!
I think I have 70-80 or so on that system and just spent 8 bucks on a burrito the size of my forearm.

Sales, Russia, Bundles, Misprices.

Also $4 here can get you luck a McD's sandwich or a 6 inch subway sandwich :V

 

[DiscoShark]

What does your mixup game with Squigly consist of? I have a lot of trouble with that.

Simple stuff really, like you can go a long way with just HK launcher -> Divekick cross under or waiting a hair after having landed an attack and doing the charged Center Stage into Grave super for a command grab reset, or doing the aforementioned super fast high/low after any attack (ie. after a restand in a combo you could do like crLK -> fHP -> Stance Cancel -> Low/Throw). I'd look up some of Yaya's stuff for more intricate Squigly mixups but the above should serve you quite well until then.

 

[Mr. X]

Skullgirls Lobby with advanced players http://skullheart.com/index.php?streams/datagram.343/channel&game=0&category=0

 

[RockTurtle]

Skullgirls Lobby with advanced players http://skullheart.com/index.php?streams/datagram.343/channel&game=0&category=0

this intimidates me

 

[MiniBossBattle]

Everybody with a PS3 go buy UNIEL/Under Night InBirth.



Sales, Russia, Bundles, Misprices.

Also $4 here can get you luck a McD's sandwich or a 6 inch subway sandwich :V

You're Russian?! I had no idea. Man, Gaf really is international.