GhostRidah
Member
Man these growing pains, fgc is so young. It's kind of sad we have to be reminded of this every other week.
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That's cool, but if you really have that little respect for your fellow competitors at the event, I'd really rather you stayed home.
Of course you're gonna get that "easy money" stomping inferior competition when you're a pro, that's how you afford to travel to the "real events." But would it kill you to pretend you had any sort of respect whatsoever for your fellow players, the people who took time out of their daily lives to run these events, to compete in these events?
The 70/20/10 division (outside of weekly events) is actively detrimental to the growth of the scene.
For comparison, the event I attended (and finished 9th at) this past weekend: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/130413_hagerstown_fact_sheet.html (Ignore the actual $ values- I'm just using it as a reference point for prize structure scaling.)
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The ChrisGesus heel turn is finally complete
Now just put that EMP VxG tag in front of him for Ultimate Evil status
Now just put that EMP VxG tag in front of him for Ultimate Evil status
This is not growing pains... Its just Americans acting like stereotypical Americans. Asian players don't act this way...
slightconfuse
Banned
i baffled that AGE lets their players act like this. Markman would be sending DMs the minute this shit went down
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Injustice netcode roundup for Monday:
LI Joe says the netcode is ass
Perfect Legend says the netcode is good
LI Joe says the netcode is ass
Perfect Legend says the netcode is good
TheThunder
Member
With Fanatiq as their
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Dude almost matches Triforce in stupid, almost.
DryEyeRelief
Member
Perfect Legend said doa5s prepatch netcode was good.
Passive Assassin
Member
We made Fanatiq into what he is today. We empowered him! It's our fault :[
It really wasn't. Neither was April Duels. I'm not sure that flying these top-level players out to these smaller regional events is actually a net positive.
That's my take on it too. I have about .015 seconds of free time each week. Streams, majors, and whatever are entertainment and I like rooting for the people who have a genuine passion for the games and tournaments. I'm considering going to Northwest Majors in a few weeks, its really close to my house, but I'd be pretty bummed either way if this happened there. Even if its not a "major".
Shouta
Member
Here's the thing, it should always matter. It's the lack of respect for all the folks that put their time and effort into these events so folks can have fun and play games. It's the lack of respect for the folks that allow them to live this lifestyle that bothers everyone. These events are for the FGC as a whole and are still a community effort. Most aren't run by the corporations so a lot of people put a lot of time and heart into these things. It would behoove them to show more respect because they may end up not being able to enjoy have fun and play games anymore if they keep the attitude.
Yo, you coming to NWM? Good shit. I'll see you there then.
MiniBossBattle
Member
What is more important? The money or the title?
At least his matches were exciting. No pot splitting in a FT15 of east coast vs west coast.
At least his matches were exciting. No pot splitting in a FT15 of east coast vs west coast.
Shouta
Member
Either, assuming the person actually gave a shit!
SloaneRisette
Member
Truer words have never been spoken
Chris isn't that great a heel, just sorta... douchey/not really knowing what he's doing, at least from what I can tell about his tweets.
Seasoned Badger
Member
I don't see how a person who worked for the company that made the game and have a financial interest in the success of Injustice can give an unbiased opinion.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I think a lot of players take pride in their region's big tournament as well. Norcal guys care about NCR, east coast guys care about ECT/NEC, etc.
DEATH™;54044526 said:
What big pots are Asian players playing for? It's not about nationality.
I didn't care about 70/20/10 when I first started competing, but once I been around in the competitive scene for a while, it was one of the first things I wanted to see changed. Another thing being 3/5 sets from 2/3.
It's just slow to bring about change, but at most majors there's at least top 8 payout for the bigger games or when there's a large pot bonus.
And why other games like MTG can do a payout structure like that is mainly due to the fact that there's a higher entry fee when fighting games still charge $10, so there's less money to scale among those who finish in the top places.
MTG also benefits from the TO/Vendors being able to sell way, way more merchandise due to the nature of the game, so they can pay out better. But yeah, higher entry fees for bigger events would also help even out the paydays.
You mean Romance. Arcade Shock sponsors Reynald.
slightconfuse
Banned
Pretty sure AGE has their own markman.
yah onehandedterror? but the leader is pretty much fanatiq.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
aaaAAAAaaaaa http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
commanderpepper
Member
I don't think Fanatiq speaks for Chris G, NYC Fab, Vangief, Snake Eyes, Flash, or Romance. AGE isn't a bad team just because some of their members act up.
It's not about nationality... It's about Americans being the stereotypical Americans who cares only for the paypah... I know we're better than this...
Look, Korea and Japan fights everytime for sponsorships for games, and we won't hear any kind of drama like this.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Art is doing a Green Lantern tutorial on stream right now.
SixMachine
Member
They get publicly shamed for doing shady things in Korean esports. I remember there was a scandal with gambling in esports and people were throwing some matches and I think some people did go to jail for that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119403
Yeah, that was long time ago in Brood War, but it's more mafia-like though as there are other organizations behind the scenes. But at the same time, people showed Starcraft is serious business and got punishment for that... Can't say the same in Marvel (or American FGC in general...)
pseudoedit Beaten
The only real netcode impression is better than mk. It also looks like ranked actually works, and koh isn't plagued with performance issues. I'm pretty sure the game is on par with sfiv's dodgy netcode but dealing with the bullshit will still be troublesome in an online environment.
It was singles- they mentioned on commentary that Air had blown up his Rufus earlier though (and I think he switched to Adon after winning, then losing with Dan.)
One dumb thing about ranked is that if someone rage quits on you, you get a loss for whatever reason. Hopefully that gets fixed quickly.
Ah, alright. For some reason I kept thinking it was teams. Not like it mattered anyway.
Karsticles
Member
To me, tournaments are a competitive event. You come to compete. If you're not playing to win, you shouldn't be playing at all.
Ranked mode is nothing but counter-picks of your main character used in the stats screen. Fuck this shit and fuck achievements being tied to it. Fuck you Capcom, Tecmo, Namco, Arc, et. al that does this.
I just want to play Player Matches where people aren't dicks. But nooooooo.
I just want to play Player Matches where people aren't dicks. But nooooooo.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yeah, 70/20/10 is pretty dumb for any remotely large bracket imo.
A few months ago when I was bored and killing time at work, I cooked up an Excel spreadsheet for how I'd do payouts around here if I was the one actually running them. The basic idea was that 1st gets twice as much as 2nd, 2nd gets 2x as much as 3rd, and so on until it isn't worth paying out to any more spots (and that cut-off is dependent on the # of players). Still a significant enough jump between the rungs to be worth playing for but not absurdly so.
Nope.
And it's actually a pretty good point. When Justin's goofing-off and half-assed play was actually working to an extent, nobody was up in arms over it.