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[casperOne]

OFL is doing the twitter polls for Capcom Cup
http://oneframelink.com/polls/capcom-cup-2014

Yes, yes we are. Happy to be the official handler for these. More stuff to come as well.

EDIT: I love how the edit window closes now

That fix is absolutely amazing. The thread around it is as well.

The first round matchups really did come out really fantastic in terms of story drama and weird matchups.

They really did. Glad to see them turn out the way they did. Should make for some interesting backstories.

 

[Rhapsody]

They really did. Glad to see them turn out the way they did. Should make for some interesting backstories.

Yeah, it's really nice how the first round matchups are, both characters and players.

A lot of them are almost too close to call. Kinda worried about Justin vs Daigo though, for Justin's sake.

 

[enzo_gt]

Man, you need to learn your bra sizes. 32D is not BBW territory.

Have to compromise somewhere so that it's both 2D and 3D

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ViewtifulJC's suggestion is better though

 

[Infinite]

Have to compromise somewhere so that it's both 2D and 3D

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ViewtifulJC's suggestion is better though

Is that what Aubrey was talking about?

 

[Kadey]

Ultra anyone?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Ultra anyone?

Is that some version of GG?

 

[Azure J]

Is that some version of GG?

FGW has reached its inevitable conclusion. Anime... and Nintendo.

 

[Laconic]

FGW has reached its inevitable conclusion. Anime... and Nintendo.

This is only because Cacpcom reached its own conclusion a while back.

 

[TheChits]

The King still got it

 

["God's Beard!"]

I'll be coming from FL.
I heard the area around Warfield theater is shady. How true is this? Do I need an adult?

It's shady, but you're still about two whole blocks from the worst area of the city so you're good. Watch out for human feces on the ground.

are you serious? lol

Yeah, I live in Nob Hill so it's just down the street.

 

[StriKeVillain]

Spab Daddy

 

[ViewtifulJC]

FGW | Whatever nigga I got a job

 

[Salex_]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

 

[The Last Emperor]

That "I got a job" option select lmao

 

["God's Beard!"]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

Initial time investment's too high. The value proposition of non-party fighting games for people who aren't interested in competition just isn't there.

 

[Zissou]

This is only because Cacpcom reached its own conclusion a while back.

It's funny- changing my fighting game of choice has always been a bit involuntary.
AE has deliberately broken characters? Guess I'll try marvel.
Marvel never getting a patch and no vs game on the horizon? Guess I'll try Xrd.

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still heart marvel though

@casper- sorry I couldn't put you in touch with the mixnightorganizers You still want links to the brackets or anything?

 

["God's Beard!"]

According to this the VIP and premium seats are gone. I'm sure there are plenty of the Balcony seats but if you planned on going and wanted better seats then you missed out on it. I'm glad to see that the first two are gone already. Shows that people are excited about attending/supporting this event. Hopefully the last Balcony seats sell out as well before the day of the event.

For some reason I thought it'd just be open seating and you could just show up like the 25th anniversary tournament. Geez.

 

[Anne]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

I played games since I was a toddler but didn't pick up FGs until I was 18-19 y/o. I used to think the content and features were super lacking for somebody not super into it, and the time investment wasn't worth it for so little. Tbf if you're not into fighting people beyond a casual level you do get very little out of most FGs for the average player. Outright hating them is silly though.

 

[Azure J]

Xrd on Art's stream (which got hosted by the Team Spooky stream). Game is wild gorgeous. I'm still not used to seeing it being played in quality higher than Japan's potato streams.

 

[Zissou]

Xrd on Art's stream (which got hosted by the Team Spooky stream). Game is wild gorgeous. I'm still not used to seeing it being played in quality higher than Japan's potato streams.

I'm sad the LGP can't cap 1080p at 60fps- will have to settle for 720p when making vids

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people would agree with call, yeah?

edit: "Japanese potato streams" is a magnificent phrase btw

 

[casperOne]

@casper- sorry I couldn't put you in touch with the mixnightorganizers You still want links to the brackets or anything?

Yessir, thank you. I'll try and reach out on my own as well, but a link to the brackets would help.

 

[Zissou]

Yessir, thank you. I'll try and reach out on my own as well, but a link to the brackets would help.

Vampire is here, and marvel is here. Unfortunately they don't record specifics (how many games each player took etc.) as the tourney is basically "tell us who won after your match please"

 

[Kimosabae]

Xrd on Art's stream (which got hosted by the Team Spooky stream). Game is wild gorgeous. I'm still not used to seeing it being played in quality higher than Japan's potato streams.

Has he mentioned which system he's playing on?

 

[Azure J]

Has he mentioned which system he's playing on?

I missed it when he spoke up earlier. Sorry.

 

[Smooth Operator]

The mission mode is one of the best i've ever seen in a fighting game. You learn how to counter every character in the game, how to anti-air, how to counter zoning, how to air-to-air... Between this, the tutorial and the challenge mode, oh my god :-|

 

[Anne]

You can force PS3 Xrd to run at 1080p by disabling 720p as an output on your console lol

 

[Kimosabae]

You can force PS3 Xrd to run at 1080p by disabling 720p as an output on your console lol

how does it run? How does it look?

 

[Anne]

how does it run? How does it look?

Dunno, just going by what Teyah says. He says it runs at 60 but has potential for frame drops, says models look noticeably smoother. Teyah I usually trust on these things.

Edit: PS4 vs PS3 at 1080p http://imgur.com/a/1x8tX

 

[Lostconfused]

how does it run? How does it look?

Doesn't look all that much better, not worth it IMO. If you want to play at 1080p get a PS4.

 

[casperOne]

Vampire is here, and marvel is here. Unfortunately they don't record specifics (how many games each player took etc.) as the tourney is basically "tell us who won after your match please"

Thank you! I assume Marvel was 3/5 and vsav was 2/3 all the way through?

As for recording specifics, this is something that hopefully OFL will be able to influence in tournaments next year.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

Now I wanna go to CC but hate that part of town. Plus rain.

Edit: balcony only/ no open seating?! Pass. I will go eat dungeness crab in Chinatown instead.

 

[Zissou]

Thank you! I assume Marvel was 3/5 and vsav was 2/3 all the way through?

As for recording specifics, this is something that hopefully OFL will be able to influence in tournaments next year.

Not sure about vampire as I was playing marvel casuals most of the time (and personally know next to nothing about the game -_-). Marvel was 2/3 though- Japan gonna Japan. Keep fight the good

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stat

fight!

 

[SolarPowered]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

We've discussed this like over 9000 times and it always reaches a similar end. Time investment is sometimes too much for some, others can't handle losing to another human opponent (versus losing to the AI), many fighting game IP/companies have been slow at approaching new audiences and fighting games have been terrible at evolving their PvP online capablities and matchmaking features. The result is the core of the hardcore sticking with the genre.

People would rather lose ten times to a Demon's Souls boss than a friend or some random schmuck who only grabs.

 

[Sayad]

Dunno, just going by what Teyah says. He says it runs at 60 but has potential for frame drops, says models look noticeably smoother. Teyah I usually trust on these things.

Edit: PS4 vs PS3 at 1080p http://imgur.com/a/1x8tX

PS3 version looks like it's up-scaled from 720p, definitely not 1080p.

 

[CurlyW]

NEC pools

 

[Sayad]

Has he mentioned which system he's playing on?

PS3, according to the chat.

 

[Karsticles]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

The Souls games are incredibly easy compared to any fighting game, as is Bayonetta on anything short of NSIC. You have actual thinking opponents instead of enemies with simple tells you can learn, and you have to do more than just faithfully repeat what your muscle memory has learned. You can beat a Souls game in about 20 hours and feel awesome. At 20 hours you are still a piece of crap scrub in most fighting games.

It's just another level of difficulty many people aren't prepared to handle. Personally, I was bored for a huge portion of Dark Souls because I didn't find it challenging. Vanquish was a snorefest. I already have 1,500 matches in Smash.

 

[smurfx]

I can't wait for Ono to announce some new Iphone cases or something.

he's going to announce that he's going to announce some games at some future event.

 

[Salex_]

I played games since I was a toddler but didn't pick up FGs until I was 18-19 y/o. I used to think the content and features were super lacking for somebody not super into it, and the time investment wasn't worth it for so little. Tbf if you're not into fighting people beyond a casual level you do get very little out of most FGs for the average player. Outright hating them is silly though.

Yeah, I can see why people who primary play single player games might not like the genre.

Back when I used to casually play fighting games, it was my go-to genre when I wanted to play with my friends/cousins. I didn't feel like I had to learn anything outside of the basics to have fun. Ideally, that should be enough to convince people to play a game.

 

[Lostconfused]

PS3 version looks like it's up-scaled from 720p, definitely not 1080p.

Using the screenshots in the link http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/102782

The color calibration is a bit off, PS4 is kinda washed out.

 

[Rhapsody]

Elphelt's pretty neat to use so far. Her zoning seems pretty fun, and her normals aren't that complicated.

Trying to figure out what could be loops for her though.

So far I'm happy that the character works for me right off the bat.

 

[Sayad]

The Souls games are incredibly easy compared to any fighting game, as is Bayonetta on anything short of NSIC. You have actual thinking opponents instead of enemies with simple tells you can learn, and you have to do more than just faithfully repeat what your muscle memory has learned. You can beat a Souls game in about 20 hours and feel awesome. At 20 hours you are still a piece of crap scrub in most fighting games.

It's just another level of difficulty many people aren't prepared to handle. Personally, I was bored for a huge portion of Dark Souls because I didn't find it challenging. Vanquish was a snorefest. I already have 1,500 matches in Smash.

It's more the learning curve than the difficulty, Souls games online are pretty much a shallow fighting game where lot of fighting games principles apply(along with facing actual thinking opponent... Well, sort of), though the leveling up process to get to a decent level(not in game level ;p) in a Souls game is way easier than trying to reach that same level in a fighting game.
Edit: reading past the first two lines of your post, and it looks like I'm just agreeing with you. -__-;

I think the biggest reason for the majority though is the lack of a single player game, not a story mode, but actual none fighting game-ish single player mode.

Using the screenshots in the link http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/102782

The color calibration is a bit off, PS4 is kinda washed out.

Yep, looks like just color calibration, though the more pronounced bloom effect in the PS4 version doesn't help, especially around the waterfalls.

 

[LeleSocho]

Why do people dislike fighting games? I've noticed in a lot of the speculation threads today people were outright saying they hate fighting games or they don't one of the announcements to be one.

On a forum that's big on the Souls/Bayonetta and other gameplay driven games, I expected a little less anti-FG mindsets.

For how they are built they are simply not appealing to a casual audience or to put it better to non-hardcore audience.
Souls and Bayonetta are different beasts, Bayo is easy to play and hard to master while Souls is only time consuming.
Fighting games are both time consuming by doing always the same things and stupidly hard to master with one frame openings, ultra precise executions and memorizing counters of counters of counters... Souls while being time consuming keep you going on because of the beautiful sceneries and new bosses while a game like SF or Tekken or VF once you've done the arcade mode once or twice you pretty much have seen everything that needs to be seen; the online mode doesn't help either because after the initial timeframe of 1-2 months only veterans of the genre play online and if you are a casual you'll lose 100% of the time.

I am a weird beast, i like fighting games because my brain is wired that way since the times of SF2 and i like to spend hundreds of hours in them but i sincerely can input a shoryuken only half of the time (i am serious) and i know will never ever learn any kind of combo or strategies or even try to do so, i play both offline and online and even if my win ratio is below 4% i continue to have fun.
I'm hype every year for EVO and i kind of understand what's going on in matches but that's only because i played countless hours so i perfectly understand when someone says that to them FG are not appealing at all.
It's a genre from hardcores to hardcores and that's why Smash is also so popular in the wider audience compared to others.

 

[Marz]

So its looking like when Xrd comes out it's gonna be between 50 bucks for Xrd or having enough money to pay my rent...

Fuck it LETS ROCK

 

[Karsticles]

For how they are built they are simply not appealing to a casual audience or to put it better to non-hardcore audience.
Souls and Bayonetta are different beasts, Bayo is easy to play and hard to master while Souls is only time consuming.
Fighting games are both time consuming by doing always the same things and stupidly hard to master with one frame openings, ultra precise executions and memorizing counters of counters of counters... Souls while being time consuming keep you going on because of the beautiful sceneries and new bosses while a game like SF or Tekken or VF once you've done the arcade mode once or twice you pretty much have seen everything that needs to be seen; the online mode doesn't help either because after the initial timeframe of 1-2 months only veterans of the genre play online and if you are a casual you'll lose 100% of the time.

I am a weird beast, i like fighting games because my brain is wired that way since the times of SF2 and i like to spend hundreds of hours in them but i sincerely can input a shoryuken only half of the time (i am serious) and i know will never ever learn any kind of combo or strategies or even try to do so, i play both offline and online and even if my win ratio is below 4% i continue to have fun.
I'm hype every year for EVO and i kind of understand what's going on in matches but that's only because i played countless hours so i perfectly understand when someone says that to them FG are not appealing at all.
It's a genre from hardcores to hardcores and that's why Smash is also so popular in the wider audience compared to others.

Good post.

Also, I think some games can escape the "fighting game fate" through fanservice. Smash and Marvel come to mind there.

 

[fader]

So its looking like when Xrd comes out it's gonna be between 50 bucks for Xrd or having enough money to pay my rent...

Fuck it LETS ROCK

you crazy

 

[irfaanator]

So its looking like when Xrd comes out it's gonna be between 50 bucks for Xrd or having enough money to pay my rent...

Fuck it LETS ROCK

get some other suckers to pay for your rent

 

[biosnake20]

It's gotta be a street fighter announcement. I still highly doubt it will be a new SF exclusive to PS4 though. Probably just exclusive content.

 

[enzo_gt]

Played Smash U today. Game is gorgeous. Menus still crappy. Amiibos are weird but oddly intelligent. AI seems 10x better in general from the 3DS version. Smash Tour is way more fun than it looked in videos or the announcement, even though I got bodied. Incredible package of content overall.

EDIT: ^ whoa

 

[That Dude John]

It's gotta be a street fighter announcement. I still highly doubt it will be a new SF exclusive to PS4 though. Probably just exclusive content.

Well, that's...subtle.