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[Kumubou]

You know, I'm typing all this shit out, describing a system that has more interplay than Puyo Puyo, but it's not getting acknowledged.

Also, Tetris as a game fundamentally changes when gravity speed hits 20 rows per frame and lock delay does not reset on rotation. Try it sometime! You'd also be surprised how much it carries back into the regular game. In Sakura VS I'm holding down up half the time.

I think the system in TwCCS could have more interplay... but honestly, from the time I spent playing the game it was nearly impossible to read what abilities someone had in the field on the fly. You could tell by the gem and block color but a) you would have to memorize all of block color/special ability combinations and b) at game speed that shit looked nearly identical. I had enough trouble remembering my character's gems and what the hell they did. I think if the specials were more readable (somehow), it would be more practical for more players to make adjustments. Or maybe I just suck. Then again, the last time I played this game was about a decade ago... am I really going to have dig my copy out?

I have played enough TGM to know what 20G is about, and I have gotten to level 999 in Master on TGM2 before (but not the extra stage where the blocks fade out or are completely invisible... fuck that) so I'm not completely free.

You're right about the stack invert/stack flip being two different skills, I'm an idiot (or just really tired). The stack invert special was just gross (to the point where I wonder why the hell they added it).

 

[Lost Fragment]

Forgot how total garbage the 360 controller is for SF4. Fuck. Someone send my broke ass a decent 360 pad.

Maybe Ill just start playing Gief.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Who the hell plays Melty Blood? I've played the games too much -- if you have questions, I either know the answer... or know who would know the answer. I still kind of wish the community crater and die the way it did, but that happened for a bunch of reasons so :|


This... all of this. Except I don't think French Bread is stupid at all -- they're just a very small team (and typically Japanese). It was hilarious, when Evo went to get permission to run/stream MBAA, French Bread was blown away at the fact that anyone outside of Japan wanted to play their game -- never mind that it had enough players in America to warrant running the game at America's biggest tournament. Now their thirst for a Evo runback is very real. Too bad their next developer stream got pushed back to late March now. :\

Ecole, on the other hand, can get bent. It turns out that the Japanese players hold them in about as much regard as the international community does (none at all). Seeing their Sega CD and Saturn games... we've had so many developers die over the years, and they survive? How the hell? They're like a bizarro Idea Factory.

What's your take on Melty Blood versus Under Night? I'm looking to pick it up whenever it releases so I'm interested in what makes them different from each other.

Their publisher being terrible makes the whole situation really sad as it seems they really want their game out there to foreign audiences. Looks like it will take a miracle for them to get it out at this rate.

Definitely. Doesn't look as fun as Melty, but I like picking up new 2D fighters when I can.

This. What initially drew me to Under Night was the 2D aesthetic. The characters look great too.

If I recall correctly they showed some interest in getting their game on Steam. So I'll buy it there if it comes out on it. If not... then PSN it is.

Steam and PSN would be ideal but I'll take what I can get. I think my PC despite its age could handle Under Night.

Switch characters and study this video.

When I asked about attending EVO in one of the previous FGW threads someone told me to "expect lots of ghandi".

Now I understand the meaning behind that.

 

[QisTopTier]

Who's hype for more GGXrd tonight?

Spoiler

and getting kicked out of NicoNico

 

[K.Sabot]

What happened to your avatar Vanilla, I quite liked the drugged looking anime girl. Now it's just some lame anime cat.

Who's hype for more GGXrd tonight?

Spoiler

and getting kicked out of NicoNico

I just want to see a match played by people with actual brains in their actual skulls.

 

[Kellen]

Who's hype for more GGXrd tonight?

Spoiler

and getting kicked out of NicoNico

premium account blues

 

[Uraizen]

Who's hype for more GGXrd tonight?

Spoiler

and getting kicked out of NicoNico

Being kicked the least of my problems. I'm not staying up until 6AM! I'll watch the shitty quality recording tomorrow.

 

[Hitokage]

I think the system in TwCCS could have more interplay... but honestly, from the time I spent playing the game it was nearly impossible to read what abilities someone had in the field on the fly. You could tell by the gem and block color but a) you would have to memorize all of block color/special ability combinations and b) at game speed that shit looked nearly identical. I had enough trouble remembering my character's gems and what the hell they did. I think if the specials were more readable (somehow), it would be more practical for more players to make adjustments. Or maybe I just suck. Then again, the last time I played this game was about a decade ago... am I really going to have dig my copy out?

If you were ahead of your opponent in pieces used, then you can simply see what pieces you got to see what pieces your opponent will get. You get the same ones in the same order the entire round, and you both work with the same meter size. That's why I always treated a blue J item block as a red flag when playing Eriol, because that's an incoming Stack Invert.

One person getting double meter build kind of fucks with this, but it's usually not a huge concern.

I have played enough TGM to know what 20G is about, and I have gotten to level 999 in Master on TGM2 before (but not the extra stage where the blocks fade out or are completely invisible... fuck that) so I'm not completely free.

Cool. What rank did you get?

But yeah, at 20G you should know that you can't just stack fast, you need to place pieces in a way that allow you to continue stacking. Not being able to hold also makes you get creative with how you use pieces, including setting up overhangs.

 

[Beats]

AE-capped at 256
Marvel-197 as of 2/17
Melee-too busy procrastinating
Blazblue-capped at 128
Killer Instinct-capped at 64
SFxT-capped at 64
dunno about the rest, although Injustice is over 70

Thanks. I guess I'll try looking around for the numbers for the smaller games.

What happened to your avatar Vanilla, I quite liked the drugged looking anime girl. Now it's just some lame anime cat.

yeah, I liked your old avatar better Vanilla. : p

 

[BakedYams]

As many folks want to use the tag, post regularly, and actually attend tournaments? I think only me and Smedwicks use it with any degree of frequency though.

NeoGaf | BakedYams shall be my name then when I go a tournament, sadly barely any happen in NY ;_;

I'd actually straight up would tho if I had the chance. Been getting to face good AE players the last 6-7 months and I've made pretty significant strides in play since then. It would be nice to test my mettle with Justin.

Now I need to face Shouta with my Gief. Beef man-handled me but I've been getting back into my groove! I can body +10,000 BP players again!

Forgot how total garbage the 360 controller is for SF4. Fuck. Someone send my broke ass a decent 360 pad.

Maybe Ill just start playing Gief.

You rang? I play Gief, could show you some of the ropes.

 

[Shouta]

NeoGaf | BakedYams shall be my name then when I go a tournament, sadly barely any happen in NY ;_;



Now I need to face Shouta with my Gief. Beef man-handled me but I've been getting back into my groove! I can body +10,000 BP players again!

There's always NLBC as a weekly but that might be too far for you.

Also, if Beef man-handled you, you're definitely not getting much if any on me, lol. Of the few times I've played him online, he and are I about the same in T.Hawk-ness.

 

[MrWizard]

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

 

[BakedYams]

There's always NLBC as a weekly but that might be too far for you.

Also, if Beef man-handled you, you're definitely not getting much if any on me, lol. Of the few times I've played him online, he and are I about the same in T.Hawk-ness.

NLBC is a two hour train ride... I really wanna go but snow and lack of eSports money in my wallet makes me stay home and watch the stream. I think I might see if I can get in on Bum's and Rayray's place, gotta make a name for myself first though!

And damn it... Your a T-Hawk player too? Stupid condor dives! It was 10-4 but after like the first 8 matches I got impatient and just got steam rolled. It was pretty even in the beginning but Beef probably saw how scrubby of a gief I was at the moment.

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

You need to sponsor me, that's whats happening.

 

[K.Sabot]

Started playing 3s online again and I super surprised at how many leavers there still are.

Is there no penalty still for it?

I seriously had 3 matches in a row where people left.

 

[Omega]

I'll sign up as NeoGAF | real at Defend the North if they do it again.

 

[QisTopTier]

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

Pushing my pro anime agenda

Spoiler

That I never really would ever take part in anyways because I can't go anywhere

 

[Shouta]

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

You need the Belding laugh too.

So, PS4 controllers are gonna be a-ok for Evo, right? I saw the tweet but thought I'd confirm while you were here. =P

Speaking of Saved by the Bell, this was posted earlier in the thread but since you brought up Belding. We gotta bring up Zack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbHLQAthI7M

 

[BakedYams]

I'll sign up as NeoGAF | real at Defend the North if they do it again.

I really hope they do too. Was there and it was HYPE!

 

[MrWizard]

You need the Belding laugh too.

So, PS4 controllers are gonna be a-ok for Evo, right? I saw the tweet but thought I'd confirm while you were here. =P

Yes for anything on PS3.

 

[Rhapsody]

Who the hell plays Melty Blood? I've played the games too much -- if you have questions, I either know the answer... or know who would know the answer. I still kind of wish the community crater and die the way it did, but that happened for a bunch of reasons so :|

Actually, one question I always wondered. Is no teching the safest option after the opponent has completed a corner air combo?
When should I ever risk any other kind of tech since I'm pretty sure there were OSs to counter other techs iirc.

I probably had more questions when I played with the community, but some I can't remember at the moment.

 

[Professor Beef]

Change your name to MrWarzard.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Who's hype for more GGXrd tonight?

Spoiler

and getting kicked out of NicoNico

I see you still haven't mastered the art of Backspace and Refresh.

What happened to your avatar Vanilla, I quite liked the drugged looking anime girl. Now it's just some lame anime cat.



I just want to see a match played by people with actual brains in their actual skulls.

yeah, I liked your old avatar better Vanilla. : p

I thought a tasteful rendition of an Egyptian deity would be more well recieved. People usually ask me for the sources of my avatars. This is the first time someone has voiced their dissatisfaction.

I guess I can switch back. I suppose my previous avatar does suit my sleep-deprived tendencies more.

EDIT: The tourney's going to start too late for me but I'll locate the uploaded footage in the morning unless someone else gets to it first.

 

[smurfx]

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

please match up smedwicks vs fchamp at evo pools please.

 

[QisTopTier]

I see you still haven't mastered the art of Backspace and Refresh.

I have a real secret

Spoiler

I'm actually lucky enough to never get kicked

 

[Professor Beef]

Floe practicing Strider: http://www.twitch.tv/eg_floe

 

[I-hate-u]

HEY HEY HEY! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! /belding

Do we have awesome panels this year MrWizard?

 

[MrWizard]

Do we have awesome panels this year MrWizard?

Give me your best panel ideas for Evo!

 

[Busaiku]

Why 2D is better than 3D.

 

[MarkMan]

Give me your best panel ideas for Evo!

my wedding panel?

 

[Shouta]

my wedding panel?

Are marriages to gaming accessories legal in Vegas?

Wait, it's Vegas. Nevermind!

 

[I-hate-u]

Maybe a panel on Combofiend and Haunts transition from players/event runner to Capcom employees? A panel with Infiltration would be nice as well

 

[Uraizen]

Pushing my pro anime agenda

Spoiler

That I never really would ever take part in anyways because I can't go anywhere

Send representatives.

 

[enzo_gt]

Give me your best panel ideas for Evo!

Get sponsors to talk about what it's like to sponsor players to dispel and discuss how it's not money coming out of the ass.

Also, get Niitsuma to do a MvC3 postmortem and tell us how he's still not going to patch the game.

Spoiler

But seriously, I find developer panels much more interesting than community ones TBH. The more devs/pubs you can get on board the better

Also, please have a panel stream this year.

 

[BakedYams]

Give me your best panel ideas for Evo!

how to start up a community with setups and streams.

Screw my idea, do this.

Get sponsors to talk about what it's like to sponsor players to dispel and discuss how it's not money coming out of the ass.

Also, get Niitsuma to do a MvC3 postmortem and tell us how he's still not going to patch the game.

Spoiler

But seriously, I find developer panels much more interesting than community ones TBH. The more devs/pubs you can get on board the better

Also, please have a panel stream this year.

 

[Seyavesh]

i actually want to see a panel of the logistics of setting up and running evo.
it always seems like a bit shrouded in mystery, with just that 'well it's a lot of work' but the actual scale/specifics seem like mind-boggling to someone like me who's just a player.

well organized tournies always surprise me, especially large-scale stuff. even the logistics of running the stream seem to be really frustrating and annoying based on what i've seen in person.

 

[QisTopTier]

i actually want to see a panel of the logistics of setting up and running evo.
it always seems like a bit shrouded in mystery, with just that 'well it's a lot of work' but the actual scale/specifics seem like mind-boggling to someone like me who's just a player.

well organized tournies always surprise me, especially large-scale stuff. even the logistics of running the stream seem to be really frustrating and annoying based on what i've seen in person.

I second this, could have a lasting effect of helping smaller events get bigger as well.

 

[enzo_gt]

i actually want to see a panel of the logistics of setting up and running evo.
it always seems like a bit shrouded in mystery, with just that 'well it's a lot of work' but the actual scale/specifics seem like mind-boggling to someone like me who's just a player.

well organized tournies always surprise me, especially large-scale stuff. even the logistics of running the stream seem to be really frustrating and annoying based on what i've seen in person.

Now, now, we don't want to rub more salt into FChamp's wound by getting TOs to speak about all that paypuh they're stacking by exploiting players!

- - -

Along the same lines and similar to my previous idea, maybe a talk on how to best seek out and acquire sponsors by successful TOs would be helpful for smaller events. I can only imagine it being hard getting the ball rolling or knowing who to talk to or how.

 

[Hitokage]

While I'm sure this is likely to remain a pipe dream for the foreseeable future, one thing that would be absolutely amazing is fully electronic player and bracket tracking. Player in a match on the other side of the hall? Everyone running a bracket can see that. Want to follow progress online? It's all there.

Could even be like those restaurant devices where you get buzzed when you're up.

 

[enzo_gt]

While I'm sure this is likely to remain a pipe dream for the foreseeable future, one thing that would be absolutely amazing is fully electronic player and bracket tracking. Player in a match on the other side of the hall? Everyone running a bracket can see that. Want to follow progress online? It's all there.

Could even be like those restaurant devices where you get buzzed when you're up.

Maybe one day your dream can have sex with my dream of this being all attached to an online website where TOs can upload results that automatically update players' respective profiles and serve as permanent records of performance.. and birth the digital future of the FGC!

It would be cool if Big E could, after the tournament, just upload some standardized bracket file to the website, the website would automatically see GAF|Enzo in the bracket, and create a permanent link on my profile. And from that profile could be a feed of my best performances, a history of my best performances, aggregate data, my worst player/character/team matchup, my best player/character/team matchup etc.

 

[K.Sabot]

Forgot how fun it is to dismantle people in 3s with Chun.

Seems like nobody plays her online because I haven't met one yet lol

 

[toddhunter]

Maybe one day your dream can have sex with my dream of this being all attached to an online website where TOs can upload results that automatically update players' respective profiles and serve as permanent records of performance.. and birth the digital future of the FGC!

Step 1, knowing who is still in EVO without relying on some guy tweeting his own scribbled bit of paper he pieced together.

We'll go from there.

 

[QisTopTier]

Forgot how fun it is to dismantle people in 3s with Chun.

Seems like nobody plays her online because I haven't met one yet lol

Chun is like the least fun character to play in 3s unless you are into auto piloting

Spoiler

Yun is just as bad

 

[K.Sabot]

Chun is like the least fun character to play in 3s unless you are into auto piloting

Spoiler

Yun is just as bad

Dunno man, I like blowing up people who do stupid shit. And that's basically everyone online.

It's not something you can do in sf4 because FADC and terrible terrible lag.

 

[QisTopTier]

Dunno man, I like blowing up people who do stupid shit. And that's basically everyone online.

This is 100% true, Chun is basically the learn how to play 3s properly character when fighting against her :lol

 

[K.Sabot]

This is 100% true, Chun is basically the learn how to play 3s properly character when fighting against her :lol

My one issue is how you have an even harder time keeping people from jumping in this game.

Always hated that.

 

[QisTopTier]

My one issue is how you have an even harder time keeping people from jumping in this game.

Always hated that.

Well that's pretty much her only downside, that and her gameplan is pretty shallow so most people know what she is going to do. She's just so good at it that she still can win :lol

 

[K.Sabot]

Well that's pretty much her only downside, that and her gameplan is pretty shallow

My gameplan is to show that their gameplan is a load of horseshit and they need to stop. Anti airs in general are pretty poor when people jump and spam parry. With chun it's usually: they jump, I jab, they parry, I parry, I back hp.

 

[kcxiv]

Don't forget the number 1 rule, don't taunt.

That was never a rule for me and my buddies growing up in the 80's and 90's. lol Taunting was a must. Just like your momma jokes.

 

[QisTopTier]

Taunting is the best shit ever, I loved the fact 3s made them relevant to gameplay. Vanilla SF4 used to let you cancel the first few frames of a Focus attack into a taunt as well. So doing Seth's laughing taunt and absorbing a fireball was the best shit ever.

My gameplan is to show that their gameplan is a load of horseshit and they need to stop. Anti airs in general are pretty poor when people jump and spam parry. With chun it's usually: they jump, I jab, they parry, I parry, I back hp.

Yeah they are playing shitty then if they are letting that exchange be a common thing. Chuns anti air game sucks they should be giving almost no fucks on attacks you do from the ground. If they are at a point where back hp is a danger to them they shouldn't have jumped at you in the first place. But it's netplay so yeah :lol

 

[Gr1mLock]

Welcome to the club.

But i dont wanna? It seriously is like someone smashed my fingers with a mallet and stuck them into oven mitts.