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Fighting Games Weekly | May 18-24 | Forget it Jake, it's Capcom Town
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Lostconfused
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Depends on how they decide to handle trades.
But both players having vorpal at the same time is now not out of the question. You can now have a situation where the defender wins the grid war because someone is going ham at the start of the round but then gets touched and now both players have vorpal.
Edit: Chain shift out of block stun is a valid punish option? Because then you can get stuff like defender wins grid war, chain shift, get 1st hit get vorpal, proceed to punish even harder? These situations might not come up a lot, but its a rather large change to the complexity of the game since the number of ways to get vorpal doubled and they are not mutually exclusive.
Tizoc
Member
I don't agree with first attack needing a real bonus in games too much (like P4U meter gain on first attack, but it's not that bad in that tbh). Just seems unnecessary to me.
Being ensured 10 percent damage bonus with the ability to Chain Shift so early just seems really valuable and good to me. I actually liked how the game gave both you and the player 17 seconds before deciding who gets it. I don't think it's going to ruin the game or anything like that, but I just don't see the need for momentum so early on instead of being a gradual buildup.
If it stays like this, Round 2 and 3 might be a little scary now that both characters will have meter.
CountBlack
Member
no its d hawk
Professor Beef
Banned
Hellshingu
Member
And it looks like he got a new normal? Wonder what it looks like.
I can see how it's not really needed, but they may also be thinking of it from a business perspective. If this gets more offense going early, it will then likely lead to shorter game times and higher coin drop rates (at the places the game gets played, anyway). Unless it makes offense so over the top it ends up getting players to play more defensively (like Smash 64 or XvSF), and I seriously doubt it'll do that.
You can get double vorpal now, it's just incredibly rare as both players have to have the exact same GRD at the judgement point. It only ever happens when both players are at zero. It also depends on how they change the mechanics. Does it start the timer at round start now? Is there no GRD timer until someone gets a hit? It very well could award vorpal at first hit and then give it again 17 seconds in, as getting vorpal from landing a raw VO does not reset the timer.
Chain shift can not be used to negate blockstun, so you don't get any additional punishes on block. You can buffer it out of blockstun, so it can lead to a punish for anyone trying to stagger their blockstrings.
To be fair, the location test hasn't started yet -- this is all just information gleamed from the system mechanics/command information French Bread has released. I would still expect Akatsuki to be buns though, unless they do something crazy like give him ABK-esque damage. (And even then, he would still lose his 2-8 or 3-7 match-ups pretty hard.)
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I honestly don't know how you'd buff Akatsuki. By design, he's low-tier in this game because he wasn't meant for it.
ShinMaruku
Member
I want to know the peeps who defend obtuse execution as a plus explain Viscant then
I think there's some quality-of-life adjustments that would make things less bad, at least. Stuff like making reflecting multi-hit attacks cost only one GRD block and not one block per hit, making 6C a more viable anti-air (specifically, to be able to hit grounded assaults), making 6B either faster or safe (the fact that the move as slow as it is AND unsafe is just stupid). You could also go for hitbox adjustments on moves (they're way worse than in ABK as it is) and/or damage buffs (not going to matter if he can't get a hit, though). As a general comparable, I would be looking to make him work more like F-Miyako in MBAA or Akira in DBFC, both characters who have stubby ass normals but are high tier despite that (although the average range in those games is lower than in UNIEL).『Inaba Resident』;164738355 said:
Ah, that would explain it.
『Inaba Resident』;164738355 said:
Give him Seth's speed, a parry that crumples, and a fatality to break merkava and gord's neck upon touching them.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
His fundamentals are off the charts, as is his knowlege of the game's intricacies. He plays a 6 month old game like he's been playing it for years, while other top players like Nairo, Ally, ESAM, M2K, etc. play the game like a top player normally would after 6 months.
I want to know the peeps who defend obtuse execution as a plus explain Viscant then
Not good enough at execution to make it despite his knowledge?
A low-tier Marvel god?
Da bes at white boy trash talk? =D
Karsticles
Member
I want to know the peeps who defend obtuse execution as a plus explain Viscant then
This is rather open-ended.
MikeBreezy92
Member
I want to know the peeps who defend obtuse execution as a plus explain Viscant then
Yeah what's the actual question here?
I've never played them, but the touhou fighting games seem to be all about verticality. 360 degree movement in the air from what I could tell
It works really well. I play random friendlies and ranked matches all the time. Just don't expect to be playing people from coast to coast. I'm in Seattle and can play pretty much anyone from the west coast with a pretty good connection.
KidA Seven
Member
Looks like SF4 at Stunfest will happen on Sunday. Daigo should have signed up for ST if that's the case.
Stunfest and Combobreaker same time? Someone hold me...
Luckily multi-twitch exists!
Yeah, but does Multi-Brain exist cos mine might explode
Since Stunfest is on Europe, there's a good chance the tournaments will not be running at the same time. Probably Stunfest will end as soon as Combobreaker begins it's schedule
yeah, it's hilarious. I'm thinking they won't say anything until some weeks after the PS4 release as well.
it kinda stings that marvel is on its deathbed while dudes who dont know anything about the game got 500k views on this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INMCxDATlRs
its cool that otherwise non interested eyes are seeing the game tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INMCxDATlRs
its cool that otherwise non interested eyes are seeing the game tho.
Personalities > Games in this situation.
ShinMaruku
Member
With his nerve damage in one of his hands, he seems to be forever relegated to just theory fighter because of some of the obtuse execution requirments.
Don't you think with something less obtuse we'd really be getting some great matches from people like him, rather than the games limiting some people who can't do some of the more arcane stuff. Or do you think it's all in his head?
Step your game up.
Oh that's great, for people who don't want to sleep lol.
Luckily I wake up at 6 in the morning so I can just slob around this weekend and enjoy the madness.
I like FullSchedule too but KaneBlueRiver does the impossible a lot of the time.
It's not in his "head" that's for sure.
Yea arbitrary high execution requirements aren't great but where do you draw the line? At some point there will be some input or combo someone in the world can't do because of a handicap no matter how easy it is for everyone else. You can't really design competitive games around that factor.
Yea arbitrary high execution requirements aren't great but where do you draw the line? At some point there will be some input or combo someone in the world can't do because of a handicap no matter how easy it is for everyone else. You can't really design competitive games around that factor.
Pardon my insolence, but is there any idea of what is going to be streamed on Friday? I assume it will be team tournaments and maybe a couple of auction tournaments like previous UFGTs.
sixteen-bit
Member
tfw cpu tries to mix u up
I want to know the peeps who defend obtuse execution as a plus explain Viscant then
We need more FGs for the Viscants of the world, as long as they aren't made by Arcsys.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Panda tho
The Last Emperor
Member
To be fair, the people in that video showed more charisma and personality in 25 minutes than Justin has in 4 years
ViewtifulJC
Banned
tfw cpu tries to mix u up
dude chillin in the door like "yo...IDK why they fightin in my driveway but pls don't scratch the car b"
