Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Chunk 1 (CyberConnect2, UE4) Trailer, "PS4 Console Debut"

DragoonKain said:
People can like whatever they want, and if they don't like action or want the game exactly the same, that is their right too.

But I will ask the people who are turned off this:

At least wait until more details come out, like whether or not materia will be in it, and just more general details on the battle system. You only saw a few seconds of clips, we just don't know the full details yet.

Also, try it before you fully judge. Who knows, maybe you'll really like it. I can name a bunch of games I was turned off to at first, and once I played them I turned out to really like it. I remember when Castlevania: Lords of Shadow first got announced I was like "What??? This isn't Castlevania!" But I really liked it. It might surprise you if you give the new FFVII a chance.
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I thought Demon's Souls and Dragon's Dogma looks like shit initially and those games ended up being some of my favorites.
 
People complaining about gameplay changes are simply insufferable. Goddamn, just go away.
 
Never Played FF7 or CC or anything dealing with the FF7 universe but the trailers looks and sounds great ^_^ Defiantly picking it up when it releases!
 
Coffee Dog said:
You're comparing adding maps or camera control options to an entire gameplay overhaul. This actually proves my point, as your examples of other remakes are just gameplay tweaks and QOL additions to games, which is what some people hoped for from a FF7 remake.
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Real-time dynamic action in the game is a QOL addition to me.

It adds gameplay depth and strategy, accounts for my dynamic battle situations, yet married to traditional Final Fantasy menu commands and abilities.

To me, that's no different than playing Resident Evil Remake with analog control instead of digital control. Purists cried foul on that yet Capcom added it because, well, a majority of players were using it. Myself included.
 
DragoonKain said:
People can like whatever they want, and if they don't like action or want the game exactly the same, that is their right too.

But I will ask the people who are turned off this:

At least wait until more details come out, like whether or not materia will be in it, and just more general details on the battle system. You only saw a few seconds of clips, we just don't know the full details yet.

Also, try it before you fully judge. Who knows, maybe you'll really like it. I can name a bunch of games I was turned off to at first, and once I played them I turned out to really like it. I remember when Castlevania: Lords of Shadow first got announced I was like "What??? This isn't Castlevania!" But I really liked it. It might surprise you if you give the new FFVII a chance.
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I'll certainly be waiting for the details to come out but it doesn't give faith for a game that could easily be fucked because of modern SE to begin with.
 
AbsintheGames said:
"Re" is synonymous with "do over".

Also, did you play the game for the turn based combat or the story? I can see complaining about a Souls game being made turn based since 99% of that game is combat - and a very specific type. We are moving from turn based to something else. I'm not saying I'm happy or disappointed in what was shown, I'm saying people need to understand the focus of FFVII and understand secondary systems can change with a "re".
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Combat is a secondary system?

Combat is the primary gameplay of the title. It's what you spend the vast majority of the runtime doing. It is the game.

Zefah said:
People complaining about gameplay changes are simply insufferable. Goddamn, just go away.
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I'm sorry that you're made so uncomfortable by people discussing game design in a video game thread. :'(
 
Was hoping the game would look a little more like this:

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Coffee Dog said:
When someone asks for a remake, they tend to mean a game with flaws ironed out or given the benefit of modern technology.

I don't think that when they asked for a remake, they wanted a different game with the same story.
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Stop spinning this narrative of it being an entirely different game wearing FF7's skin or whatever the heck you're doing. It's not like the combat encounters are THE GAME and everything else is dressing that you drizzle over it. And even if battles are THE THING, we still don't really have any good idea how they're going to play out until we get more confirmation or someone gets their hands on a playable demonstration.
 
I will play my tiny violin for all the FFVII purists who wanted nothing nothing more than a buff and shine. Feel free to complain from the sidelines while I enjoy the game :p

All things considering, seems pretty faithful thus far. I don't want a 1:1 remake.
 
Zefah said:
People complaining about gameplay changes are simply insufferable. Goddamn, just go away.
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Because there's only one opinion allowed, amirite?

People complaining about people who don't like the change in the battle system are even more insufferable.
 
Coffee Dog said:
Combat is a secondary system?

Combat is the primary gameplay of the title. It's what you spend the vast majority of the runtime doing. It is the game.
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In FFVII? Combat was never the draw on PSX. Combat was something you did between story and character expansion. It was there to facilitate the necessity for progression, not a main draw.
 
The most worrisome part will be the AI of teammates. It's always the worst thing in these type of games. Since they are often not dependable, you end up just maxing out 1 character and let the other characters suck and depend on yourself to do everything.
 
My most anticipated game, by far.

The PSOne was the first console our family ever bought brand new, as the ones before were pre-owned. Booting it up for my birthday in '97 was massively special to me, as it's the only time me and my Dad have ever sat there and done a big chunk of gaming together (we got until Kalm town) apart from something like Mario

I'm nostalgic as fuck, and cannot wait for this. Looks amazing to me.
 
Plywood said:
Before someone complains about mood and personality, let's give these gifs some context.

Gif 1: Fanservice Fighting Game

Gif 2: Here to complete a mission that involves bombing a reactor, not personally invested in the interests of those he's working for.
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Give me 'moody' Cloud any day. We have enough milquetoast shonen in every anime ever.
Also, his Dissidia design is too pretty, imo.
 
Coffee Dog said:
I agree! That's why they've changed it from the original FF7. It's a new game wearing the face of an old one. That's why people are upset.
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But why ? The original still exists, hell it's just been rereleased, again.

And if you just want the old game with better textures and models but still exactly the same thing, that would just be creatively bankrupt on one hand for a license just as this (hence my original comment, as i'm actually happy for once we're not just retreading always the same things since the media, not only games but movies though, doesn't like to do anything original anymore), and just stupidly foolish for SE that would just gate itself on a hugely expensive project that yes, is renewing itself for a new audience. It's not just our baby anymore you know, other people are allowed to enjoy something as big as this, and it just turns out they like different things. Not saying if we'd have ATB i would've bitched. I would've liked it just fine, but i haven't kept my head in a hole for the last 15 years so i'm not surprised this was the direction

It's different yeah, kinda sucks we don't have ATB in this day and age anymore but seriously, being mad about it with all the clear communication we had, and in this current context ? Yeah i'm taking the piss, and i'm calling out people who immediately shun the system as huge babies. Yes RE remake was incredibly succesful. Doesn't mean that something that changes a core mechanic (and even though, that changei s really not as big as people might think. COMBAT has been a core of final fantasy, but TURN BASED though was more of a remnant due to limitation of previous times. It's nice, but in no way was it "defining" to me. The encounters were important, not the mechanics). And saying it "changed genres"...really ? As long as we keep dialogue interactions, encounters, leveling and materia, it barely did. Unless you don't consider stuff like Secret of Mana to be rpgs as well. The whole "This is a different game wearing FF7's hat" is a complete construction based on almost nothing because mostly the combat isn't exactly the same.

TL:DR: You argue that turn-based combat is the core of the game. I argue that combat itself is the core of the game, but how it's done can be up to change as long as the power behind the encounter remains the same and we get to "experience" it with the same context

Perfect Cha0s said:
It doesn't even phase me that some people are disappointed that it's no longer ATB turn-based, but the few people trying to frame this as a dumbing down (some seemingly skirting around outright saying "FOR TODAY'S A.D.D. KIDDIES AMIRITE?") as though VII's original combat were deep or complex in any way really grinds my gears
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Yeah that's the thing. There's a lot of people in this thread going "Wow not ATB ? In the trash it goes", like the new system is just complete garbage.

I would be pissed if we had no inclusion at all of materia or party members to control but so far there is no confirmation on that.
 
Cindi Mayweather said:
Really?
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Yes, really.

Expecting the same gameplay from 18 years ago is just ridiculous. Expecting the same game with just better graphics and sound is equally ridiculous.

Please understand that only a small minority of hardcore crazies actually wants that.

GSG Flash said:
People complaining about people who don't like the change in the battle system are even more insufferable.
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Having an opinion about a battle system that you've yet to engage with is idiotic. No one knows exactly how it's going to play. The best idea we have is the FFXV demo, but that's it.
 
Giever said:
Stop spinning this narrative of it being an entirely different game wearing FF7's skin or whatever the heck you're doing. It's not like the combat encounters are THE GAME and everything else is dressing that you drizzle over it. And even if battles are THE THING, we still don't really have any good idea how they're going to play out until we get more confirmation or someone gets their hands on a playable demonstration.
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Have you played FF7?

Do you realize just how often you are fighting shit?

They have drastically altered the combat, which is most of the game. Therefore, this is effectively a new game with the same plot, considering the gameplay has been changed so much.
 
Really happy with how Barret looks actually. Super thankful it's not the borderline racist characterization it could have been.
 
Coffee Dog said:
Have you played FF7?

Do you realize just how often you are fighting shit?

They have drastically altered the combat, which is most of the game. Therefore, this is effectively a new game with the same plot, considering the gameplay has been changed so much.
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Yes, a remake.

When people get nostalgic about Final Fantasy VII, it's almost certainly for the plot, characters, sound, and setting.
 
Final Fantasy 15.7

Makes sense to repurpose all that work that would otherwise go to waste. I'm okay with changes, a straight remake might be less interesting but I really hope they can make a fun battle system.
 
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