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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT4| Gacha Crystals, Gacha Money

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evangd007

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Daily: Gau

Only blue crystals from the free dailies. I'm reminded why I don't do half-price dailies anymore.

I've hit 207% worth of TMR moogles. Is it safe for me to grab Emperor's TMR staff now?
 

SeanTSC

Member
WKN was a pretty solid unit for where we were at. The issue was, people simply didn't roll. So even here, we have like 1 or 2 people with him and no one ever got around to tinkering with him.

Ling was announced with a great kit, disappointment set in when people found out it was only one turn. Then they realized that was her purpose, she adjusts to whatever you needed on turn basis. Making her incredible.

Thinking about it, they probably should put out enhancements for those units sometime.

I did every daily and burned a few tickets, sadly I didn't even get a Santa Rosa on that banner. =\
 

Alkez

Member
Y no new annoucements gumi :(
They ran away with the anniversary money.

They realised 2.0 is beyond fixing and made a quick getaway lmao.

Same reason announcement came out late on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years.

Thanksgiving is on a Thursday so if that were true we would have got a notification about maintenance, after maintenance lol. The other two are universal holidays which makes sense, but 4th of July is just another day for anyone outside of the states.

If Gumi is based in the states and they've been doing maintenance and sending notifications at 1am this whole time I'd be impressed. Guess it would give reason as to why there always used to be extended maintenance, I couldn't function at that time lol.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
They realised 2.0 is beyond fixing and made a quick getaway lmao.



Thanksgiving is on a Thursday so if that were true we would have got a notification about maintenance, after maintenance lol. The other two are universal holidays which makes sense, but 4th of July is just another day for anyone outside of the states.

If Gumi is based in the states and they've been doing maintenance and sending notifications at 1am this whole time I'd be impressed. Guess it would give reason as to why there always used to be extended maintenance, I couldn't function at that time lol.
Holiday weeks, messages have always been delayed till Wednesday(Once Thursday)

Maintenance is also done at similar times with PAD, so I assume its the norm.
 

c-murph

Member
OMGAWD I forgot it was Canada's Big Brother's Bday today! Happy BDay 'Murica!

May all your pulls be Red, White and Blue... No golds.
 

Lyrian

Member
WKN was a pretty solid unit for where we were at. The issue was, people simply didn't roll. So even here, we have like 1 or 2 people with him and no one ever got around to tinkering with him.

Ling was announced with a great kit, disappointment set in when people found out it was only one turn. Then they realized that was her purpose, she adjusts to whatever you needed on turn basis. Making her incredible.

Thinking about it, they probably should put out enhancements for those units sometime.

But people know, now.

All of the seasonal units will surely get their enhancements when their banners come around again, just like Elza and the BF-2 banner. And, as Gumi will want people to chase the limited units, I'm expecting those enhancements to be rather good.

The Halloween banner units were greatly gimped as 6* anythings were in their complete infancy. Their enhancements should bring them up to speed quite nicely.
 
Got the 120 relics as well today! Did some pot leveling too. WOL is maxed in HP and DEF now.

Really curious what's planned for announcements. Let's hope we hear something soon!

Woot, finally all crafting trophies done! Thank god for crafting multiple items at the same time!

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Hmm, still missing one trophy for the unobtainable ring.
Also Gumi, take all the time you want for that Onion Knight banner, I need all the lapis/tickets I can get.


What'd you do for the crafting stuff? I've been setting my gift as crysts so I can do Potions for item crafting, but I'm just curious about the others? And if there's a more efficient way?
 

Alkez

Member
Man, only 11 pages until OT5. This has gone quickly. My time as OP is nearly over. Even before the anniversary I thought the thread was moving at a good pace. I hope it continues in OT5.

Holiday weeks, messages have always been delayed till Wednesday(Once Thursday)

Maintenance is also done at similar times with PAD, so I assume its the norm.

Ah fair enough. Well hopefully we'll here something tomorrow. Should be FF12 right? Or is that later in the month?
 

Kouriozan

Member
Got the 120 relics as well today! Did some pot leveling too. WOL is maxed in HP and DEF now.

Really curious what's planned for announcements. Let's hope we hear something soon!




What'd you do for the crafting stuff? I've been setting my gift as crysts so I can do Potions for item crafting, but I'm just curious about the others? And if there's a more efficient way?
Already did items before thanks to those early global exclusive grind exploration events.
Weapon : leather whip
Ability : poisona

Was setting water cryst as friend gift, it's pretty fast to craft if you macro tm farm.
Before water cryst I had light one to craft cures but I need water for other stuff.
 

Lyrian

Member
Woot, finally all crafting trophies done! Thank god for crafting multiple items at the same time!

Hmm, still missing one trophy for the unobtainable ring.
Also Gumi, take all the time you want for that Onion Knight banner, I need all the lapis/tickets I can get.

Grats on the crafting trophies....

... and welcome to the hell that is trophy #70 :)
 
Already did items before thanks to those early global exclusive grind exploration events.
Weapon : leather whip
Ability : poisona

Was setting water cryst as friend gift, it's pretty fast to craft if you macro tm farm.
Before water cryst I had light one to craft cures but I need water for other stuff.
Awesome thanks for the tips.

Only 300 to go on items for me. Will have to replenish stock via macroing before I can continue so hopefully soon I will be able to clear those blasted trophies out.
 
Only have 3 trophies until 70.

Summoning - 5/10k
Item Whiz - 250/10k lol I don't use items. These 2 should be easy though when I decide to do them.

I'm also in the 6k/10k range on both Arena battle trophies so I may just wait to get those in 4-5 months instead of doing the summon one because screw all that. I will never farm the ring most likely anyway.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Man, only 11 pages until OT5. This has gone quickly. My time as OP is nearly over. Even before the anniversary I thought the thread was moving at a good pace. I hope it continues in OT5.



Ah fair enough. Well hopefully we'll here something tomorrow. Should be FF12 right? Or is that later in the month?

It will either be FFXII or Story Event. FFXII will come either this week or next. Question is, do they want to milk the FFX banner more or not?

Of course, it could just be no new banner like they do every now and then too. So it will either be Lunera, FFXII, or nothing!
 
Hey Gumi, where is my 4th of July Independence Day gift?

I want a Sparkler accessory. Grants 100% "Freedom!" from all attacks. 100% physical/magic evade units incoming!
 

tuffymon

Member
Finally got an answer from the support, they know and are looking into it (and are sorry it took this long)
And a second one on email saying I don't need to send multiple tickets x)
Looks like French team don't send generic answer?

I got 2 answers back last night, first was kinda generic hey we need you to give us some more information phone,ip,rank,code,friend number etc. Second said please stop sending so many message (i sent 2), as it can make harder to get to legitimate mails... whatever


buddy got an answer from his failed purchase (triggered his cost, but not getting his prize), said the payment didnt go through on their side, and to send them the receipt info etc etc...

so it seems they are at least slowly getting to stuff, i'd still send in a second or third mail to light a fire under em...
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
-- daily: Shantotto

-- expeditions: done for the week, a couple days early! And sitting on 285 relics. Love this extra dimension to the game.

-- wait how do you craft multiples at once? What are you crafting for the trophy?
 

Lyrian

Member
Only have 3 trophies until 70.

Summoning - 5/10k
Item Whiz - 250/10k lol I don't use items. These 2 should be easy though when I decide to do them.

I'm also in the 6k/10k range on both Arena battle trophies so I may just wait to get those in 4-5 months instead of doing the summon one because screw all that. I will never farm the ring most likely anyway.

Someday, power creep will render megacrysts to drop as commonly as normal crysts. The rings will be much more farmable at that point when the game mandates the necessity for units to be wielding Rings of Dominion.

It will either be FFXII or Story Event. FFXII will come either this week or next. Question is, do they want to milk the FFX banner more or not?

Of course, it could just be no new banner like they do every now and then too. So it will either be Lunera, FFXII, or nothing!

Story event, please. Because Rikku still won't appear for me and I'm trying to save the event's 4* ticket for a moonshot at that new judge. Therefore, need more dailies. Besides, I only need 11 more Wakkas for his TM straight up.
 

robotuw

Member
So much this. Many still haven't figured it out and still are locked onto the JP meta. For all of its crap, Gumi has delivered very well on the Global Exclusive units (except that first Halloween batch, and WKN could only do so much given the power levels of the came at the time) in demonstrating that non-JP-meta classes can be strong.

Dancers suck? Here's Ling!
Need a finisher better than Luneth? Hi, Olive.
Hybrids are the abomination of the FFBE universe? Fryevia sends her love.
Chaining meta, you say? Elza laughs at the mere concept of needing "a chaining meta".

Oh, hey... isn't there a new Global Exclusive Judge coming potentially this week?

But because Gumi did promise that all the of the base non-collab JP units will eventually make it here, people still focus on what is known to be coming as the only possible meta in the game ("if it worked on JP, it MUST work on Global, right????).

I mean, can you blame them? Knowing what's coming is a fantastic advantage. Gumi have shown they won't nerf popular JP meta characters (and may even buff them) so saving for the latest JP hotness is rarely a bad idea. Global exclusives can dominate the top-tier meta, but if you can't plan for them (and sometimes you don't even know how good they are until their banner is gone) you're clearly going to get fewer people pulling for them.
 

Kouriozan

Member
-- daily: Shantotto

-- expeditions: done for the week, a couple days early! And sitting on 285 relics. Love this extra dimension to the game.

-- wait how do you craft multiples at once? What are you crafting for the trophy?

Just craft like you would normally, you can select the number of item to make.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Thanks to all those Moogles, my Aileen TM is almost done. Rest are going to Freyja. I think we should be getting another 2x 5% from the Raid. Which puts her around 40% complete.

When Aileen is done, going to switch in a 3rd Rikku I got to take her TM quick.

After that, I'm at a bit of a loss.
Current running Snow, C.Art, and Rikku alongside the other two. C.Art is another solo. And Rikku's will still take about 2 to 3 weeks with 2. So I may put a hold on them, then just do some sets of 5 I have.

Abel, Camillie, Wakka, Must, and Gaff. Largely because I keep getting more of these characters. Where it will take less than a month to get all 5. Nice to have pieces of situational, plus I can start exploiting Rem more.

Or I can go full in on TM farming for Frejya, but I only have two Ingus anyways,
 
Decided that I'm going to build up my Lightning because, well, just because.

Thinking I could make a decent evasion build with her for arena.

Kiyomori - 10%
Assassin's Vest - 10%
Lucky Bangles - 10%
Yda's TM - 10%
Quick Assault - 10%

With her innate 30% that will bring her to 80%. What else is good that is easily accessible? I have stuff with 5%, but that won't cut it.

Seems like Freyvia she can get 100/30 Physical/Magic evade.

Edit - Actually seems 100/40 is possible due to Moogle Cape.


Never really took the time to build an arena team. Just slapped one together with 3x Chiziru, Ling and Rem. Seems to work well.
 

Rixa

Member
Decided that I'm going to build up my Lightning because, well, just because.

Thinking I could make a decent evasion build with her for arena.

Kiyomori - 10%
Assassin's Vest - 10%
Lucky Bangles - 10%
Yda's TM - 10%
Quick Assault - 10%

With her innate 30% that will bring her to 80%. What else is good that is easily accessible? I have stuff with 5%, but that won't cut it.

Seems like Freyvia she can get 100/30 Physical/Magic evade.

Edit - Actually seems 100/40 is possible due to Moogle Cape.


Never really took the time to build an arena team. Just slapped one together with 3x Chiziru, Ling and Rem. Seems to work well.

Swordbreaker and First Strike are bot 5%. Then you need 10% from somewhere.
 

tuffymon

Member
-- daily: Shantotto

-- expeditions: done for the week, a couple days early! And sitting on 285 relics. Love this extra dimension to the game.

-- wait how do you craft multiples at once? What are you crafting for the trophy?

click staff, and itll say how many~

im going with using of copper ore/lumber for the first (i did like 260 staffs to finish that one off)

materia im going with cure, ive been asking for daily light crysts (nothing really seems fast here sadly)

alchemy i went with shurikens and magic keys
 

robotuw

Member
Probably not useful info for most of you, but if you joined after the Bahamut raid, or missed it, the raid moogle spear is great. It's an 82 atk weapon you can make unlimited amounts of.

For the rest of you, the moogle cape gives 10% magic evade and you can make as many as you want. I don't know if two stack but it wouldn't be a bad idea to make several. The moogle crown has decent stats and also prevents stone, which is nice since most people can wear hats.
 

Lyrian

Member
I mean, can you blame them? Knowing what's coming is a fantastic advantage. Gumi have shown they won't nerf popular JP meta characters (and may even buff them) so saving for the latest JP hotness is rarely a bad idea. Global exclusives can dominate the top-tier meta, but if you can't plan for them (and sometimes you don't even know how good they are until their banner is gone) you're clearly going to get fewer people pulling for them.

To a certain point, I can't.

You are right when you say that people are latching onto what they know what works from JP. And, as you also correctly assert, Global Exclusives are a giant unknown until at least their release, as often not realized until their banner is already gone. I kind of remember the whole last second craze for Ling once people figured her out on the second week of her banner.

On the other hand, most Global-meta chasers are still experiencing tunnel vision in regard to JP meta units. Case in point, the current community-based TMR farming priority list that's all the rage on Reddit at the moment.

In a nutshell, the TL;DR = Elemental-less DW sources, BiS Orlandeau weapon ATK materias and weapons, almost everything else is complete garbage.

Okay, that's a bit over-generalizing there, but the bias there is migraine-inducing eye rolling. Farm 110+ ATK weapons, but only swords ever unless the weapon is critical for a specific unit to operate well (Sparky for Olive, Artisan for Aileen, etc.). Never farm a killer materia, ever. "X" materia is coming is 4 to 9 months from now on Y unit, so why even bother with Z materia, because it's already precognatively known to be obsolete.

It's a case of people not wanting to see the forest through the trees. And now that the "holy trinity" of 6* WoL, Tilith, and Rikku are here on Global, it's going to be next to impossible for any guide for future trials to be anything but "this is exactly how JP did it", outside of any Global Exclusive Curveballs on trials (like Gilgamesh) needing adjusted strategies.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
I mean, can you blame them? Knowing what's coming is a fantastic advantage. Gumi have shown they won't nerf popular JP meta characters (and may even buff them) so saving for the latest JP hotness is rarely a bad idea. Global exclusives can dominate the top-tier meta, but if you can't plan for them (and sometimes you don't even know how good they are until their banner is gone) you're clearly going to get fewer people pulling for them.

So you mean like JPN players have to do every single banner.

GL players relying on JP knowledge has worked as a double edge sword. We know Orlandu is great, Gumi knows that too. Hence why bosses are suddenly have slightly changes to design to account for it.

Alongside pushing back units people are waiting for, enhancements, etc. Hence why many were bitching about WoL 6* alongside Ramza Enhancements.
When Robot comes out, there will be no
-Enhanced Ramza, Onion Knight, Aria, Dark and Earth Veritas, and 6* Agrais. That doesn't include all the other enhancements skipped over. We have the core team now it seems. But we don't have a lot of the same JPN had, and Gumi will be throwing a curve ball or two again.

You know, but so do the developers and they have planned according.

To a certain point, I can't.

You are right when you say that people are latching onto what they know what works from JP. And, as you also correctly assert, Global Exclusives are a giant unknown until at least their release, as often not realized until their banner is already gone. I kind of remember the whole last second craze for Ling once people figured her out on the second week of her banner.

On the other hand, most Global-meta chasers are still experiencing tunnel vision in regard to JP meta units. Case in point, the current community-based TMR farming priority list that's all the rage on Reddit at the moment.

In a nutshell, the TL;DR = Elemental-less DW sources, BiS Orlandeau weapon ATK materias and weapons, almost everything else is complete garbage.

Okay, that's a bit over-generalizing there, but the bias there is migraine-inducing eye rolling. Farm 110+ ATK weapons, but only swords ever unless the weapon is critical for a specific unit to operate well (Sparky for Olive, Artisan for Aileen, etc.). Never farm a killer materia, ever. "X" materia is coming is 4 to 9 months from now on Y unit, so why even bother with Z materia, because it's already precognatively known to be obsolete.

It's a case of people not wanting to see the forest through the trees. And now that the "holy trinity" of 6* WoL, Tilith, and Rikku are here on Global, it's going to be next to impossible for any guide for future trials to be anything but "this is exactly how JP did it", outside of any Global Exclusive Curveballs on trials (like Gilgamesh) needing adjusted strategies.

Adding more on to this.

It's like the original terrible Should You Pull banner. I actually like the new ones better, since it's much more kind to GL as a whole. The original was basically "I read this about JPN, so this is what will happen". And it almost always resulted in people either pissed they didn't get what they want or regretting they didn't pull. People pulling for units 8 or 9 months down the line, Rainbow level rates for Zid, etc.

Basically, it's people reading a book and saying they know how to fix the car... without ever touching one before in their life.

Looking over the list, it starts off alright. But as you said, one of the things of note was the weapons. Weapons of 110ATK are all elemental based weapons. We've had it before where bosses are resisted. And where do I find the non-elemental ones? Basically 3 stages down. If the boss is immune to Earth, the Artisan is worthless. While the Sakurafubuki is still the 2nd best Katana in the game and largely a great weapon to have, since Blade Mastery is so common with units. So typically you want at least one alongside Genji Blade. Same with Save the Queen, since it is elementless and you don't need to worry about it messing up chains.

Then I see stuff like Killer Materias, but taking a few days to TM farm out 1 from 5 Edgars, will give a far bigger boost to damage than another 30%. Though the 30% ATK is more universal.

But this is also due to people who want an absolute guide book to follow. Basically they do not want to have to think for themselves. They want to be told who they should pull, how to equip, what to do during a trial, etc.
 

robotuw

Member
So you mean like JPN players have to do every single banner.

The irony is not lost on me. I wish Gumi had pushed to make global even more different. Playing JP and not knowing what is coming is probably a much more up and down experience with higher highs and lower lows. Getting the good units is more serendipitous, but going all in for something that is outclassed in a month isn't fun. Meanwhile global just has a constant level of slight irritation with the schedule shenanigans and seeming inferiority to JP. That said, knowing even a little about what is coming (and we know more than a little) is such a huge advantage that we really can't not analyse the info we have.

I think global needs another exclusive 4* base that really screws with the meta. Xon was our last (edit: shit, forgot about Zyrus, he's ok I guess) and he has his uses but he didn't change the game like Ling did. Stuff like Fry is great, but as a 5* with particular gear requirements she's whale bait. A 4* a lot of people could get that flips the script on the meta would be wonderful. Like, introduce a kick-ass blue mage in global first and blow everybody's minds. Maybe a calculator-type character, or someone who uses mime abilities.

Folks can figure out how good a unit is by looking at their skill set. It's not really hard.

To a point, but it can be difficult to tell just from skill descriptions, particularly for chainers. Orlandu and Fohlen both have 7-hit moves, but one of them dominates the rankings and the other only recently climbed back up with enhancements. The difference between their moves is a lot more than the imperil that's missing from Fohlen's. Frame data isn't well documented and it can be tough to understand it even if you have it.
 

across

Member
Folks can figure out how good a unit is by looking at their skill set. It's not really hard.

More to the point, I don't really know if "people are sleeping on Fryevia!!! Wow she's so underrated how does no one know about this diamond in the rough???????? Did you know most bosses have less SPR than DEF whoaaaaaaa" is as relevant as "Fryevia is a 5* base unit who was released on the banner following Orlandeau, who was a known, extremely powerful quantity that many people exhausted resources on, not expecting a unit of equal or greater power to release on the very next banner, and consequently fewer people could pull for her even if they wanted to, P.S. you may not have heard but 5* units can be difficult to obtain!"

Before you guys congratulate yourselves too much on how perceptive you are at the "GL meta" being different from JP's, make sure you aren't players who pulled GL exclusive 5* units vs. the players who didn't. Because if you didn't pull Ling (4* limited) or Fryevia (5*) or Elza (5* limited) or (maybe) Olive (5*) then the substantive difference right now between JP is no Enhanced Ramza, dodge tanking and that's largely about it.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
How do you beat the Boss in Macalania Wood ?
Just got bodied nothing i do seems to damage him.

Yeah, kinda slap in the face:

* Here have 6* WoL
-> Oo I have shiny WoL finally maxxed at 100

* Few days later pulls another top tier tank.
-> :( :( :(

Yeah lol,
quite the kick in the nuts.

But i looked into Wilhelm...and he is actually a pretty nice unit. Would it be feasible or useful to run him and WoL in a team, with both focusing on different tasks ? I mean its not like i run more than 1-2 damage dealers + 1 healer anyway.

Also i need to keep going and keep my logins this month for that other multipull...maybe i will have more luck then.
 
Yeah lol,
quite the kick in the nuts.

But i looked into Wilhelm...and he is actually a pretty nice unit. Would it be feasible or useful to run him and WoL in a team, with both focusing on different tasks ? I mean its not like i run more than 1-2 damage dealers + 1 healer anyway.

Also i need to keep going and keep my logins this month for that other multipull...maybe i will have more luck then.

We haven't hit any hard trials with our newly awakened WoL, but I am totally planning on using both of them. WoL as my enemy breaker and Wilhelm as my team buffer.

WoL has 45% breaks which is going to replace Ling on my go to Team as my primary breaker.

So I'm looking at my AAA team consisting of,

Tilith Healer
Wilhem Main Tank
Rikku Support
WoL Tank, Healer, Breaker
Orlandu Damage

If I need another damage unit besides a friend unit I'll probably not use WoL. But we'll see.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
We haven't hit any hard trials with our newly awakened WoL, but I am totally planning on using both of them. WoL as my enemy breaker and Wilhelm as my team buffer.

WoL has 45% breaks which is going to replace Ling on my go to Team as my primary breaker.

So I'm looking at my AAA team consisting of,

Tilith Healer
Wilhem Main Tank
Rikku Support
WoL Tank, Healer, Breaker
Orlandu Damage

If I need another damage unit besides a friend unit I'll probably not use WoL. But we'll see.

This sounds actually pretty cool - thanks for kinda restoring my hype for the future again. Ill use instead Refia instead of Tilith....but if i can pull one of the Top Tier Damage Dealers down the line could have a quite solid team.
 

Kouriozan

Member
Aigaion will be fun, and should be the next trial to release in like 2 weeks maybe?

Oh, Ultros released first week of June, would be scary if Aigaion is this thursday, I wanna see it for fun.
 
Aigaion will be fun, and should be the next trial to release in like 2 weeks maybe?

Oh, Ultros released first week of June, would be scary if Aigaion is this thursday, I wanna see it for fun.

I've only heard that this trial was a make or break trial for jp. And that its a robot. I know nothing else about it. I'm excited to see what happens when it hits us!

I just glanced at a reddit topic about it. On a very simplified breakdown, it seems you should kill the left arm a bunch until it stops respawning, then the right arm, then the body. All while one of your units is getting 1 shot and you're taking party damage as well. So we need to prepare for someone to res a unit every turn which probably shouldn't be your healer as they'll be to busy healing. WoL has res, so that's cool. And of course, Rikkus reraise.

How do you beat the Boss in Macalania Wood ?
Just got bodied nothing i do seems to damage him.

I had all non elemental damage against that boss. I know it changes its elemental weakness and immunity as you fight, so taking the lazy route, I used a team that wouldn't bother with it. Equip non elemental weapons and use non elemental spells and you should be alright.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I had all non elemental damage against that boss. I know it changes its elemental weakness and immunity as you fight, so taking the lazy route, I used a team that wouldn't bother with it. Equip non elemental weapons and use non elemental spells and you should be alright.

Oh welp...thats explains it - thanks i will try again later.
 

Rixa

Member
How do you beat the Boss in Macalania Wood ?
Just got bodied nothing i do seems to damage him.



Yeah lol,
quite the kick in the nuts.

But i looked into Wilhelm...and he is actually a pretty nice unit. Would it be feasible or useful to run him and WoL in a team, with both focusing on different tasks ? I mean its not like i run more than 1-2 damage dealers + 1 healer anyway.

Also i need to keep going and keep my logins this month for that other multipull...maybe i will have more luck then.

Make sure your team weapons are elementless. Ill slap my Ace back to friend unit. Use its Tri-Beam first then LB (Jackpot Shot), if JS is not ready reuse Tri-Beam.
My team there, no tank at all.


We haven't hit any hard trials with our newly awakened WoL, but I am totally planning on using both of them. WoL as my enemy breaker and Wilhelm as my team buffer.

WoL has 45% breaks which is going to replace Ling on my go to Team as my primary breaker.

So I'm looking at my AAA team consisting of,

Tilith Healer
Wilhem Main Tank
Rikku Support
WoL Tank, Healer, Breaker
Orlandu Damage

If I need another damage unit besides a friend unit I'll probably not use WoL. But we'll see.

This sounds actually pretty cool - thanks for kinda restoring my hype for the future again. Ill use instead Refia instead of Tilith....but if i can pull one of the Top Tier Damage Dealers down the line could have a quite solid team.

Yup double tank plan here too Wilhelm & WoL. You might want to do same than I loaning friend Tilith and 4 my units are (we are moved towards Trials that need to be cleared as 5 man)

- Ace
- Wilhelm
- Tidus
- WoL / Supporter / DPS / Fixed damage (Setzer)
 

Shouta

Member
]To a point, but it can be difficult to tell just from skill descriptions, particularly for chainers. Orlandu and Fohlen both have 7-hit moves, but one of them dominates the rankings and the other only recently climbed back up with enhancements. The difference between their moves is a lot more than the imperil that's missing from Fohlen's. Frame data isn't well documented and it can be tough to understand it even if you have it.

If you're talking about Altema rankings, you should take them with a grain of salt. It's affected by voting and who uses what unit rather than an objective standard. Famitsu is the opposite where they look at the units in a vacuum. Excellent units often get overlooked or not get graded properly because of the userbase.

Duke, a dragoon that was released awhile ago, is basically an Ice version of Eileen (prior to enhancements anyway) with even more versatility than Aileen had because he can give himself different elements yet he's rated lower than Nyx, and fucking Gilgamesh. lol. So there are definitely problems with those rankings. The one thing with Duke was that he was released after enhancements for some powerful units like Eileen but that shouldn't affect his ranking compared to the non-enhanced ones.

Fohlen has always been a strong unit and he's been overlooked. He still is a step down from Orlandu though. It's not because his imperil or his frame data but because his attacks are all wind element. That means he doesn't have the versatility of someone that doesn't have an element attached to and can't be used on an enemy that resists wind.
 
If you're talking about Altema rankings, you should take them with a grain of salt. It's affected by voting and who uses what unit rather than an objective standard. Famitsu is the opposite where they look at the units in a vacuum. Excellent units often get overlooked or not get graded properly because of the userbase.

Duke, a dragoon that was released awhile ago, is basically an Ice version of Eileen (prior to enhancements anyway) with even more versatility than Aileen had because he can give himself different elements yet he's rated lower than Nyx, and fucking Gilgamesh. lol. So there are definitely problems with those rankings. The one thing with Duke was that he was released after enhancements for some powerful units like Eileen but that shouldn't affect his ranking compared to the non-enhanced ones.

Fohlen has always been a strong unit and he's been overlooked. He still is a step down from Orlandu though. It's not because his imperil or his frame data but because his attacks are all wind element. That means he doesn't have the versatility of someone that doesn't have an element attached to and can't be used on an enemy that resists wind.


I should really look into what Fohlen can do and who he can chain well with. I got lucky and pulled him but wasn't to excited because nobody talks about the guy. I haven;t even leveled mine yet, although he''s been on my TM farm team for like a week now.
 

Kouriozan

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Slowly leveling my Fohlen as well (89 right now) so I don't know his potential, heard he can chain with Reberta and enhanced Randi.
Meanwhile I'm farming my first Dark Knight Soul for him (and then Onion Knight)
 

Syntsui

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Fohlen should be fun to use with 5* Shanttoto, Wind Veritas and Sylvia. He will be Onion Knight's BFF against enemies weak to Wind.
 

Lyrian

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But this is also due to people who want an absolute guide book to follow. Basically they do not want to have to think for themselves. They want to be told who they should pull, how to equip, what to do during a trial, etc.

And follow the path of absolute least resistance while applying the absolute minimum amount of effort required to obtain that path of least resistance.

The irony is not lost on me. I wish Gumi had pushed to make global even more different. Playing JP and not knowing what is coming is probably a much more up and down experience with higher highs and lower lows. Getting the good units is more serendipitous, but going all in for something that is outclassed in a month isn't fun. Meanwhile global just has a constant level of slight irritation with the schedule shenanigans and seeming inferiority to JP. That said, knowing even a little about what is coming (and we know more than a little) is such a huge advantage that we really can't not analyse the info we have.

I think global needs another exclusive 4* base that really screws with the meta. Xon was our last (edit: shit, forgot about Zyrus, he's ok I guess) and he has his uses but he didn't change the game like Ling did. Stuff like Fry is great, but as a 5* with particular gear requirements she's whale bait. A 4* a lot of people could get that flips the script on the meta would be wonderful. Like, introduce a kick-ass blue mage in global first and blow everybody's minds. Maybe a calculator-type character, or someone who uses mime abilities.

Completely agree. Although the devs have said in the past that they want Global to not follow the JP meta so closely, they need to do more. The global exclusives are indeed potent, but they alone aren't enough to significantly move the needle away from the JP meta in any meaningful way (especially as most of them are 5* bases).

Before you guys congratulate yourselves too much on how perceptive you are at the "GL meta" being different from JP's, make sure you aren't players who pulled GL exclusive 5* units vs. the players who didn't. Because if you didn't pull Ling (4* limited) or Fryevia (5*) or Elza (5* limited) or (maybe) Olive (5*) then the substantive difference right now between JP is no Enhanced Ramza, dodge tanking and that's largely about it.

Because to appreciate the game to it's fullest, we shouldn't be attempting to pull for limited units at all? That makes little sense, although I understand the point you were presenting.

The grumbles from everyone are based on that while "Global is it's own game", it's really not, as you point out. At least, not enough to say that Global isn't still joined at the hip with its JP roots. For as much as everyone here (and some on Reddit) attempt to break the cookie cutter mold from the standard stock Trial team, posts such as the TMR farming guide on Reddit clearly indicate that to date, Gumi has been mostly ineffective at differentiating Global from JP at all to the crowd that actually cares about what the meta is at all.
 

Nikokuno

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The fuck with Spherimorph, when he uses Water magic, I hit him with Thunder magic and resist it. When he uses Fire I used Ice and resist it &#129300; I remember he was annoying in the OG game but damn, there is some bug or something...
 

Syntsui

Member
The fuck with Spherimorph, when he uses Water magic, I hit him with Thunder magic and resist it. When he uses Fire I used Ice and resist it &#129300; I remember he was annoying in the OG game but damn, there is some bug or something...
He is bugged, he shouldn't be dispelling his weakness every time. At the moment you can only beat him with neutral damage.
 
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