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[Meccanical]

As a stand alone game it's pretty alright, but as a sequel it's fucking awful.

Which guess shouldn't matter if you never liked the first game anyway but there's a lot of stuff in that fucking datalog they could have used instead of just making up bullshit.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Game lacks identity on what it wanted to be.

 

[Manu]

I thought XIII-2's ending was great, not sure why.

I guess I'm a sucker for stories where

Spoiler

the bad guy wins at the end

.

 

[MagiusNecros]

I thought XIII-2's ending was great, not sure why.

I guess I'm a sucker for stories where

Spoiler

the bad guy wins at the end

.

Spoiler

Caius was a hero. Not a villain. Lightning is the true villain.

 

[Wazzy]

So, we're starting Final Fantasy VII today right? Any specific time or should we just go for it now?

 

[Manu]

You all probably saw this before, but I just stumbled across this fanart:

And I was like WHOA.

 

[Meccanical]

Overall FFVI has the best fanart as a whole I've come to notice.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Overall FFVI has the best fanart as a whole I've come to notice.

I know a few artists I've come across that are badass. My fav being by one who goes by BlackOrb00.

Some examples. So awesome.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Welp I got myself stuck on my replay of VIII.
Squall is level 32, Rinoa 21, Zell is 17.
and im on the

Spoiler

Fujin Raijin

fight so I can't leave town and grind Zell. ugh.

 

[Wazzy]

Welp I got myself stuck on my replay of VIII.
Squall is level 32, Rinoa 21, Zell is 17.
and im on the

Spoiler

Fujin Raijin

fight so I can't leave town and grind Zell. ugh.

Are they beating you? Also you can leave town. Go talk to the hotel owners daughter and then go to Zell's house and talk to Big Bad Rascal twice and he'll go check next door for her. Go back to the hotel owners place and talk to BBR and follow him to the gate and you'll need to distract the soldier for him. Meet him back at the hotel and talk to him and the owner and they'll create a distraction so you can leave.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

So, we're starting Final Fantasy VII today right? Any specific time or should we just go for it now?

You can start it anytime today, I won't have as much time to play today or tomorrow but I'll make up for it the following days.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Are they beating you? Also you can leave town. Go talk to the hotel owners daughter and then go to Zell's house and talk to Big Bad Rascal twice and he'll go check next door for her. Go back to the hotel owners place and talk to BBR and follow him to the gate and you'll need to distract the soldier for him. Meet him back at the hotel and talk to him and the owner and they'll create a distraction so you can leave.

Yeah pretty badly, they get Zell first so while I revive and give him a potion
they are beating up on Rinoa.
and worse my best GF(Lv 50, other are all 25) is Quetzalcoatl which is useless in that fight.

Thanks, didn't know I could leave before the fight.
Need to go level Zell up some.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Yeah pretty badly, they get Zell first so while I revive and give him a potion
they are beating up on Rinoa.
and worse my best GF(Lv 50, other are all 25) is Quetzalcoatl which is useless in that fight.

Thanks, didn't know I could leave before the fight.
Need to go level Zell up some.

You probably have to junction your stats better or something...leveling up would be the wrong way to go, at least in VIII.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

You probably have to junction your stats better or something...leveling up would be the wrong way to go, at least in VIII.

I just have to do something with Zell.
Rinoa can hold out a while and has like 1440 HP, Squall has 2000+
Zell is at like 900.

I mad the mistake of not using him enough.
I also missed a few GFs on the way.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I just have to do something with Zell.
Rinoa can hold out a while and has like 1440 HP, Squall has 2000+
Zell is at like 900.

I mad the mistake of not using him enough.
I also missed a few GFs on the way.

Keep him at low health and hold out hope you get your limit...then unleash Armageddon Fist!

EDIT: Time for a little FF7

Sooooo we start with the train ride into this mechanical town of...something and that bloody music starts up...well darn I'm pumped! And we see our first black person in Final Fantasy...talk about progression, it only took...how long? Silly Squaresoft...

Sweet mother of sea soup, spiky haired dude has a HUGE freaking sword...or as my dear mum said...a butcher's knife (Yes she really did say that. I don't think she liked the game either but I digress). This dope is labeled Ex SOLDIER...so like what's so special about SOLDIER compared to a regular soldier? Hmmm?

Biggs? Wedge? Didn't I see you guys die in Star Wars? Or wasn't that FF VI? Do you guys like reincarnate or something?

So the game asks me to name spiky head, I'll stick with Cloud for now...or should I call him Lightning since we all know Squeenix is gonna replace him with her in the remake.

Biggs tries to be friendly and Cloud just shuts him down with the finger...didn't know SOLDIER was full of jerks. Big Black Dude (BBD) obviously knows something's up but he's probably just paranoid because he knows the black guy always dies first.

 

[rataven]

CarNage64 is speedrunning FFVII for the world record again. Argh. I wanted to start my play-through but might watch his run instead. Dude was within seconds of breaking the record last night only to fall behind after 8 hours at Bizarro Seph. That had to hurt.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Few minutes in and I already know BBD is an idiot...he asks if a former high level Shinra attack dog has been in a reactor before...wait, just what kind of reactor are we talking about? Is this a nuclear reactor?? Oh wait no, it's Mako...Mako...energy...well whatever.

Wait, this energy is the lifeblood of the planet? New age metaphysics in my Final Fantasy?! Obviously Cloud is not a believer, he's just here for the bling bling...athiest...

Is it wrong that I read BBD's lines in a southern accent? Because I will!

annnnnnnnd BBD looks ready to knock Cloud's head off...someone give this guy a chill pill!

Both Jessie and BBD tell me to use the controller to do this and that, if someone in real life told me to use the controller to move around or to press a button so I could go down a latter, I'd just turn around and walk the other way...quickly.

 

[Wazzy]

Yessssss my Sky Art Of Final Fantasy book came.

Haven't opened it up yet.

You probably have to junction your stats better or something...leveling up would be the wrong way to go, at least in VIII.

I think enemies scale with Squall so if he kills Rinoa and him off while leveling Zell he should be fine but yes leveling is the incorrect way to go about beating bosses.

I just have to do something with Zell.
Rinoa can hold out a while and has like 1440 HP, Squall has 2000+
Zell is at like 900.

I mad the mistake of not using him enough.
I also missed a few GFs on the way.

Go buy tents, refine them into Curaga's and junction them into your HP stat. That should keep you alive for the fight with around 3000+ HP for everyone.

You can start it anytime today, I won't have as much time to play today or tomorrow but I'll make up for it the following days.

Exellent, then I'll post what I've done so far with a couple horrible quality images:

See how awful this is? You can see my goddamn hands in it.

Started my new game. The opening happens and then I proceed to fight two soldiers. I hold circle and focus on eating lunch knowing full well I don't have to put any effort into these guys, look back and I'm at the victory screen. Cool.

The blonde guy with hair that I'm shocked he isn't using as his main weapon and is sporting purple then get's to introduce his name:

I could give him his actual name but screw him, mine is getting used. That's right asshole, you now have a girls name. Deal with it.

Messed with my menu colours for a bit and finally decided on a suitable one. Met a guy on steroids and looks like that guy Mr. T LOLZlolol who goes by the name Barrett. He likes to what I assume is swear a lot but for all I know he's just complimenting me behind these weird symbols. Yeah, I bet that's what he's doing.

Fast forward and I'm done fighting some scorpion boss and I need to escape. I free Jessie, get out and I'm in the streets of Midgar. There's some girl selling flowers and she asks me if I would like to spend 1 gil to buy one. Like fuck I can afford that so I turned that bitch down immediately. Joking, I ain't that cheap but if she had asked for 2 gil I would have had to start stuff about how she's overcharging and her and all the suits are bringing down the economy with this shit.

Okay now we're at the bar, met some girl who expected a flower from me and she goes by the name Tifa. Of course, I gave the flower to the little girl since she at least doesn't expect shit.

I did the train part and now we're walking through the tunnel.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Go buy tents, refine them into Curaga's and junction them into your HP stat. That should keep you alive for the fight with around 3000+ HP for everyone.

I had forgotten to get Siren...
Actually I had forgotten a lot of stuff.

 

[Wazzy]

I had forgotten to get Siren...
Actually I had forgotten a lot of stuff.

Aw. Shi.

Hmm well then I say, go in yellow and just spam your limit breaks and they should hopefully die. Make sure someone has items equipped so that you can revive and continue to destroy them. This is literally your strategy: O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O - Limit Break - O O O O O O O O.

Also if you're worried about forgetting stuff just ask us and we can make sure to prevent it. Unfortunately you won't be able to get Siren until disc 4 along with any other GF you missed.

 

[CorvoSol]

Started ffx yesterday. Why can't i hold all these lols?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Aw. Shi.

Hmm well then I say, go in yellow and just spam your limit breaks and they should hopefully die. Make sure someone has items equipped so that you can revive and continue to destroy them. This is literally your strategy: O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O - Limit Break - O O O O O O O O.

Also if you're worried about forgetting stuff just ask us and we can make sure to prevent it. Unfortunately you won't be able to get Siren until disc 4 along with any other GF you missed.

Thanks,
I have the lamp for Diablos but I haven't beat him. I remembered Odin but I haven't fought him yet.
I thought I just replayed this a few years ago, but now I think I stopped at disc 2.
So its actually been a really long time since I beat it.

 

[Wazzy]

I won't touch X until the HD version comes out so I haven't played it in a while, which part is making you laugh?

Thanks,
I have the lamp for Diablos but I haven't beat him. I remembered Odin but I haven't fought him yet.
I thought I just replayed this a few years ago, but now I think I stopped at disc 2.
So its actually been a really long time since I beat it.

I would definitely fight him so that you can can get Hit-J, Hp-J, Ability x 3 and HP + 20 and 40. Also No-encounter is the best and will help prevent constant random battles/leveling up. You'll do way more damage just constantly spamming limit breaks rather than using summons. What you can do is equip him to Zell, kill Squall and Rinoa which then allows you to level up Zell and get AP for Diablos's abilities without making monsters level with you.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I won't touch X until the HD version comes out. So I haven't played it in a while.


I would definitely fight him so that you can can get Hit-J, Hp-J, Ability x 3 and HP + 20 and 40. Also No-encounter is the best and will help prevent constant random battles/leveling up. You'll do way more damage just constantly spamming limit breaks rather than using summons. What you can do is equip him to Zell, kill Squall and Rinoa which then allows you to level up Zell and get AP for Diablos's abilities without making monsters level with you.

Alright thanks.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Started ffx yesterday. Why can't i hold all these lols?

Corvo replaying the infamous laughing scene confirmed.

 

[CorvoSol]

I won't touch X until the HD version comes out so I haven't played it in a while, which part is making you laugh?
u.

All of it. John DiMaggio as Wakka, everyone is a douche to Tidus, sin as a cureall excuse, etc. The box says "with real voices!"

 

[Wazzy]

Also Jaxword, that image of Squall holding the gun is from The Sky book. Hot damn I'm loving all these images. Why the hell did they do so much art of Red and Cloud but never actually developed a strong connection between the two? Lot's of Aeris and Cloud art which actually looks nice even if I'm not a fan, Tifa's amano artwork is actually cool but I still think her outfit is dumb.

All of it. John DiMaggio as Wakka, everyone is a douche to Tidus, sin as a cureall excuse, etc. The box says "with real voices!"

Urgh Wakka's voice was grating.

 

[Noi]

Why ya best not be shit talkin' da best voice actin' in FFX, mon.

 

[Aureon]

Should i buy Dissidia or Dissidia Duodecim?
I heard Dissidia's story is included in Duodecim, but it's the same "One campaign per protagonist" or it's a basically a recap?

There's any reason to buy first dissidia instead of duodecim?

 

[rataven]

Anybody here happen to know the exact chronological order of the Compilation of VII? All games, novellas, movies, etc.? I'm thinking of making my way through the whole thing but I want to do it more or less according to the order of events. And yeah, that means Dirge eventually, but I actually didn't hate it.

Should i buy Dissidia or Dissidia Duodecim?
I heard Dissidia's story is included in Duodecim, but it's the same "One campaign per protagonist" or it's a basically a recap?

There's any reason to buy first dissidia instead of duodecim?

Duodecim, for sure! You get more characters (Tifa, Yuna, Kain, etc.) and it feels more balanced overall. And yes, you get the full story from the first game. It's not a recap.

 

[Wazzy]

Should i buy Dissidia or Dissidia Duodecim?
I heard Dissidia's story is included in Duodecim, but it's the same "One campaign per protagonist" or it's a basically a recap?

There's any reason to buy first dissidia instead of duodecim?

Duodecim. You have to beat the story mode in it first and then you unlock Dissidia's story which allows you to play all of it.

Man those games were fun, I really hope we get a third game.

Why ya best not be shit talkin' da best voice actin' in FFX, mon.

He's a rip-off of mah boi Raijin, ya know?

 

[CorvoSol]

Why ya best not be shit talkin' da best voice actin' in FFX, mon.

To the contrary. I'm loving every second of it. Hard to refrain from calling tidus finn and wakka jake.

 

[Noi]

Should i buy Dissidia or Dissidia Duodecim?
I heard Dissidia's story is included in Duodecim, but it's the same "One campaign per protagonist" or it's a basically a recap?

There's any reason to buy first dissidia instead of duodecim?

There's no reason to play the first one if you own Duodecim. Same One campaign per protagonist as the first game, but reworked to included the Duodecim stuff like the world map.

 

[Meccanical]

To the contrary. I'm loving every second of it. Hard to refrain from calling tidus finn and wakka jake.

But Tidus is Johnny Test.

 

[jaxword]

Also Jaxword, that image of Squall holding the gun is from The Sky book. Hot damn I'm loving all these images. Why the hell did they do so much art of Red and Cloud but never actually developed a strong connection between the two? Lot's of Aeris and Cloud art which actually looks nice even if I'm not a fan, Tifa's amano artwork is actually cool but I still think her outfit is dumb.

Red was probably Cloud's dog early on in the development when Midgar was New York and Zack and Sephiroth were the same person.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Damn, got back on VIII and finally beat that boss fight.
overwrote the save and immediately realized I forgot to draw on that attempt.
ugh.

Man I am just having one terrible playthrough.

 

[CorvoSol]

But Tidus is Johnny Test.

Sssssh. We don't talk about that show.

 

[MagiusNecros]

But Tidus is Johnny Test.

He's just a fleeting dream.

Muh muh muh

 

[Wazzy]

So where I last left off in Final Fantasy VII was the train tunnels looking for a way into the mako reactor. Once in, I set the bomb and head to leave before the place blows when all of a sudden I'm confronted by a bunch of red soldiers and the president of Shinra. He brings up some Sephiroth guy and then leaves us to fight a robot. I quickly dispose of it but in doing so the robot exploded leaving me holding on for dear life or else I fall and die. I know I don't have to worry though because my dear friends are sure to help me out.

Fucking. Asshole.

Okay so maybe if I just act strong I'll hold on and something or someone will miraculously save me. Maybe Tifa can jump over and then grab my hand. You can do that, right Tifa?

YOU HAD ONE JOB TIFA. ONE JOB.

Okay so now I wake up in a church and oh, it's the flower girl. She asks me if I remember her and I say of course I do. She's the flo-

I..I must...resist...being...an asshole....

Flower girl it is.

Red was probably Cloud's dog early on in the development when Midgar was New York and Zack and Sephiroth were the same person.

Hm? I didn't know that was originally planned.

Still would have loved a bigger relationship between him and Cloud. Then again, Red's my favourite so...

 

[MagiusNecros]

I always chose the asshole comments. Stomp the flowers. Stomp them all.

 

[Wazzy]

I always chose the asshole comments. Stomp the flowers. Stomp them all.

I know but I've been nice this entire time so I might as well keep it up.

Alright so the girl introduced her name and it's Aeris. Not Aerith, AERIS. Anyway, some red haired guy with a couple soldiers started following us with the intention of kidnapping Aeris. Why? I don't know, maybe she ripped him off when selling those flowers or she's hiding something....and so she asks me to be her bodyguard and if I do I get a date with her. I then make some weird finger waggle which looks like he's saying "ohh you're so naughty!" and then we flee to the roof.

She get's shot at which causes her to fall from the roof and I'm tasked with helping her from above. I go and push a barrel to save her ass but I pushed the wrong one and missed the solider forcing her to fight her way up because I make terrible decisions. We escape, I take her home, her mom tell's me to leave without her and so I try to sneak out and succeed. Okay, now I can enter the mark-Oh holy SHIT. Aeris is standing in front of the market place and apparently knew I would leave. I guess she's coming along. We see Tifa and decide we need to go find out where she went. She's in Don Corneo's mansion. Weird....but okay.

I dress up as a girl and I'm extremely basic. Crappy Cologne, fragile tiara and a very ugly wig. Apparently that's still hot according to the guy at the door, so we enter and see Tifa. We find out her reasons for being there and we all team up to see who get's picked.

I don't because I look like shit so I watch as he decides between the other two, finally he picks Tifa and me and Aeris get taken to please his crew. I get thrown in with about 5 guys while Aeris get's to deal with one. One of them compliments my muscles but that's not enough so I reveal I'm a man and kill them all. I go to help Aeris but she instead deals with it herself. Good job, Aeris.

Don Corneo is dry humping the air when I enter and Tifa jumps out of the way before he can crush her. Cloud threatens to cut off his balls if he doesn't spill the 411 so he complies. After revealing a bit, he stops and pretends to not know anymore which prompts Aeris to mimick Cloud's pose and say the best thing I did not expect her to, that she will rip Don's ball's off. It's Tifa\s turn to mimick the pose and threaten him and I'm expecting her to go full fucking nuts and try to top Aeris by saying she'll bite them off.

Nope, she threatens to smash 'em instead. Boring. It's enough to scare him however so he tells us that they're going to destroy the slums and then asks us a question before we leave. I answer incorrectly and he pulls a lever and we all fall into a trap, leading where? The sewers.

After this I'm going to just skip over parts unless they're important or hilarious. No crappy cellphone pics for this one.

 

[rataven]

I've been rethinking my FF playthroughs and I've got a plan....

VII: I have the order of the Compilation put together thanks to a friend, so I'm going to start with that and power through the whole thing.

VIII: Then I'm actually going to replay VIII but I'm going to use the Squall is Dead/Rinoa = Ultimecia theories because they're totes going to make it a better game for me.

IX: Obvs can't skip IX so I won't, but the slow-ass battles are already stressing me out. I kind of want to speed-run it though. (Speed-running IX sounds like some kind of oxymoron.)

Then hopefully I'll have this all finished in time for the X/X-2 HD release. Woot.

 

[Wazzy]

I need a break after being subjected to pony porn. UGH.

I've been rethinking my FF playthroughs and I've got a plan....
VIII: Then I'm actually going to replay VIII but I'm going to use the Squall is Dead/Rinoa = Ultimecia theories because they're totes going to make it a better game for me.

But...both..those theory's are terrible? Especially the R=U since it makes no sense. I know you hate Squall so if the S=D theory helps you get through the game and tolerate Squall(even though I really think you need to give him a chance), go for it but man I can't understand how anyone could think R=U is good. The concept behind it COULD have been good but everything in the game contradicts it.

i've also got a question, when was the last time you played VIII? I'm curious just because I know you dislike the game a lot so I was wondering if you had replayed it at all recently to solidify your position. If not, I'm genuinely interested to hear your thoughts when you play it again. Even if of course you still end up hating it.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I always really liked the Rinoa=Ultimecia thing.
Hated the Squall is dead theory though.

 

[Wazzy]

I always really liked the Rinoa=Ultimecia thing.
Hated the Squall is dead theory though.

I just can't buy that

Spoiler

Rinoa went crazy because she lived forever while Squall and Co. died and then decides to go back and kill everyone for no reason other than she's crazy. Not only that, but on multiple occasions Ultimecia tries to kill Rinoa which if she succeeded, she would effectively be destroying her entire plan. The other part to the theory is Griever and why she can summon him. It's because she looks into Squall's mind and manifests what he views as powerful into something terrifying

The whole theory is false anyway because sorceresses have normal human life-spans so it's impossible for the theory to be true.

Like I said, the theory could be good but what fan's interpreted isn't. Squall is dead theory is awful and it really does shock me that people who hate the game think it's great.

 

[Dark Schala]

Don Corneo is dry humping the air

God I miss h3ro's old avatar so much.

That animation always cracked me up.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I just can't buy that

Spoiler

Rinoa went crazy because she lived forever while Squall and Co. died and then decides to go back and kill everyone for no reason other than she's crazy. Not only that, but on multiple occasions Ultimecia tries to kill Rinoa which if she succeeded, she would effectively be destroying her entire plan. The other part to the theory is Griever and why she can summon him. It's because she looks into Squall's mind and manifests what he views as powerful into something terrifying

The whole theory is false anyway because sorceresses have normal human life-spans so it's impossible for the theory to be true.

Like I said, the theory could be good but what fan's interpreted isn't. Squall is dead theory is awful and it really does shock me that people who hate the game think it's great.

Not saying thats what I believe just that I liked it. would like it even more if the actual game backed it up.

 

[Wazzy]

God I miss h3ro's old avatar so much.

That animation always cracked me up.

Heh, the first thing I thought of was his avatar. I didn't have an account back then but I used to lurk and his avatar always made me laugh.

My favourite animated avatar was Crush's. The guy typing on a keyboard.

Not saying thats what I believe just that I liked it. would like it even more if the actual game backed it up.

Fair enough.

Is your VIII playthrough going any better?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Fair enough.

Is your VIII playthrough going any better?

I took a break for a while and tried to get some XIII-2 done.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I used to accept the Rinoa is Ultemecia but that crack theory doesn't hold up now...heh. I always wondered why there wasn't a male equivalent to the sorceress.