Nice! I hope it will reach the quality of the first Piano Opera which I enjoyed a lot. The second one was a bit disappointing imo.
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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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Nice! I hope it will reach the quality of the first Piano Opera which I enjoyed a lot. The second one was a bit disappointing imo.
FFVIII-2 needs to be the full experience of Laguna's story instead of just bits and pieces. Cover needs to be a parody of VIII's cover.
Fuck yes.
NHarmonic.
Member
I recently finished FF13 and i can't stop replaying the ending. Something in Fang and Vanille crystalized forever, really beautiful scene. (I'm a sucker for this "SE" endings, like, the KH1 and KH2 ones)
I know they're back in LR, btw. Let's assume they are crystalized forever here
Oh did you enjoy the ending of FF13?
Don't play XIII-2, then, my friend, 'cuz it takes a massive, heaping dump on everything you could possibly have enjoyed about XIII.
badcrumble
Member
Black Mages deal great damage too, but yeah, FFV is TOTALLY about physical damage, just like FFVI is slanted toward magical damage being overpowered (yes, yes, the Offering/Genji Glove combo is an exception).
If you're having lots of trouble with early-game bosses before you get really synergistic ability combinations, switching to all Monks or all Black Mages (in cases where the boss has an obvious elemental weakness) for one battle, crushing it, and moving on is actually a perfectly acceptable strategy. You'll have way more fun if you switch between jobs more frequently and adapt to the situation at hand instead of feeling like you need to max out this or the other thing early on.
Oh, and giving White Mages the ability to deal Monk-level damage with their fists is great (obviously the damage isn't as heavy because their attack stat isn't as high, but it's way the fuck better than hitting enemies with rods). Soooo many awesome class/ability combinations, even that early in the game.
Professor Beef
Banned
You say that NOW...
tiggerkiddo
Member
You will love Samurai and Ninjas. Love them!
Professor Beef
Banned
Make sure to learn Spellblade, Dual Wield, and Rapid Fire. That combination is so infamous in FFV that it was the name of Bartz's EX Burst in the first Dissidia game (the sequel changed it to Master Mime).
NHarmonic.
Member
Just started it, and oh holy shit how stupid is the "retcon" of what happened. And i'm not so keen on time traveling, it has a huge potential of turning everything to shit
(like KH3D's story)
However the battle and chrystarium systems have improved a lot, and the world does seem more alive...
Gameplay improves (although everyone suddenly develops weird caveman faces and people look down each other's shirts while talking two steps apart), but boy oh boy that plot.
Cool, I started recently too. Though I'm playing on the PSone, so I won't be getting some of the jobs you will.
Noting. Will make sure to get this combo for Bartz. I liked how in Dissidia Bartz uses different weapons like the Revolver, Buster Sword, and Brotherhood lol.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
The Theatrhythm: Curtain Call demo sure is Theatrhythm. You can use the face buttons and the D-pad/circle pad in order to hit notes. Using the D-Pad/Circle Pad is pretty imprecise on FMS (the field music stages -- which is the FFXIV stage in this case), so it's best to stick with the stylus on that one. Sometimes the stylus does afford better precision on Ultra mode, but it depends on the person. Sometimes I can get by no prob with the buttons on Ultra, but sometimes I can use the stylus for that. Ultra mode in this game doesn't seem to fuck around compared to the previous game's ultra mode, which is a good thing.
The demo has its share of Lightning and Lightning Returns, which is no surprise. You have Lightning as the lead of your party, the demo's tutorial screen shows the Lightning Returns page for the tracks listed, and you start off on the LR page. You have access to three songs with all three difficulties (plus a practice mode + watch the game play itself mode): Seymour Battle from FFX (which... sounds... unremixed?), Crimson Blitz from Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII, and Serene Forest from Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. The characters you're dealt are Lightning (in her LR outfit), Tidus, Yuna (in her FFX-2 Gunner outfit), and Y’shtola (from FFXIV).
It's... still Theatrhythm? I like Theatrhythm, but you know my misgivings about it. The characters don't say anything witty or funny before proceeding into the stage (they just have facial expressions), and I think that's beneficial. There was no EMS stage (that one stage where you play the songs and you watch CG) so I don't know how well that is going to be executed. A little disappointed we didn't get stuff from XIII-2, but w/e.
Why they chose the songs they did for the demo is beyond me since there are much better tracks from each soundtrack, but I guess they chose the more... famous ones? I dunno about XIV. I'd have chosen something different. Still funny that they chose the Seymour Battle theme even though that was in the last game.
Demo has 30 uses.
It's just like Corvo said: relationships are pretty much rollercoasters and I'd like to see some games reflect that. Again, I might be projecting a little all things considered, but I'd very much like to see a better approach to it in games in general.
Edit: Ah shit, keeping my mouth shut on FFXIII-2, then. I've come to dislike that game save for the boss DLC.
The demo has its share of Lightning and Lightning Returns, which is no surprise. You have Lightning as the lead of your party, the demo's tutorial screen shows the Lightning Returns page for the tracks listed, and you start off on the LR page. You have access to three songs with all three difficulties (plus a practice mode + watch the game play itself mode): Seymour Battle from FFX (which... sounds... unremixed?), Crimson Blitz from Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII, and Serene Forest from Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. The characters you're dealt are Lightning (in her LR outfit), Tidus, Yuna (in her FFX-2 Gunner outfit), and Y’shtola (from FFXIV).
It's... still Theatrhythm? I like Theatrhythm, but you know my misgivings about it. The characters don't say anything witty or funny before proceeding into the stage (they just have facial expressions), and I think that's beneficial. There was no EMS stage (that one stage where you play the songs and you watch CG) so I don't know how well that is going to be executed. A little disappointed we didn't get stuff from XIII-2, but w/e.
Why they chose the songs they did for the demo is beyond me since there are much better tracks from each soundtrack, but I guess they chose the more... famous ones? I dunno about XIV. I'd have chosen something different. Still funny that they chose the Seymour Battle theme even though that was in the last game.
Demo has 30 uses.
You know what I mean.
It's just like Corvo said: relationships are pretty much rollercoasters and I'd like to see some games reflect that. Again, I might be projecting a little all things considered, but I'd very much like to see a better approach to it in games in general.Edit: Ah shit, keeping my mouth shut on FFXIII-2, then. I've come to dislike that game save for the boss DLC.
They're making up for only using it once in FFX.
That reminds me about Hunter's Chance and how underused was too. It was a crime having it only as a menu theme in the original Theatrhythm.
Edit: Playing Bravely Default, I'm appreaciating even more the FFV battle and growth systems. I don't know how they got so many things right in their second try with a job switching system.
Monks are pretty powerful for the first half of the game, then they drop off a bit for a while.
They're pretty solid though.
Yup. A quick way to break the game. lol
tiggerkiddo
Member
X-Cast ain't no joke either. There are so many ways to break that game wide open.
And remember, summoning Odin from the Lamp during the final battle kills a section!
And remember, summoning Odin from the Lamp during the final battle kills a section!
Best FF romance (of the ones I've played) remains Zidane x Sarah.
Look at you. You even share my taste in cheesy FF romances! Irmao!
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Airship x Sky for me.
Gogo x Quina = OT3
Meccanical
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
All the Zelda Musou hype I have makes me want a FF Musou where GILGAMESH becomes omnipotent and summons all FF warriors to face him to a final battle to the death.
GILGAMESH vs. The Universe indeed
GILGAMESH vs. The Universe indeed
Meccanical
Member
I would buy the shit out of a FF Musou.
But because this is a thing I want it won't happen.
hipsterpants
Member
So in that thread a few days ago I defended FFVII as having aged well. Then I decide that hey, its been about 2 years since I last played through it so I loaded it up on my ps3 and well...
Yeah, it really hasn't aged that well. That or my exploration of other games in the meanwhile as caused it to lose some of its luster. The chibi artstyle isn't necessarily bad but without the excuse of being 2d or sprite-based a lot of actions just look really awkward and are hard to follow exactly what the fuck some of these characters are doing (ignoring the awful translation).
Also the combat is very lacking. The comical easyness of the fights combined with the lack of any need for different strategies during battle makes things get boring rather quickly. Of course this is coming from me right after playing Persona 3 where using the wrong spell can pretty much end your entire party.
It's pretty much the perfect game for FF newcomers but after exploring the genre for a while it isn't much to re-play.
Yeah, it really hasn't aged that well. That or my exploration of other games in the meanwhile as caused it to lose some of its luster. The chibi artstyle isn't necessarily bad but without the excuse of being 2d or sprite-based a lot of actions just look really awkward and are hard to follow exactly what the fuck some of these characters are doing (ignoring the awful translation).
Also the combat is very lacking. The comical easyness of the fights combined with the lack of any need for different strategies during battle makes things get boring rather quickly. Of course this is coming from me right after playing Persona 3 where using the wrong spell can pretty much end your entire party.
It's pretty much the perfect game for FF newcomers but after exploring the genre for a while it isn't much to re-play.
I think VII, graphics aside, has actually aged quite well. The story retains the goofy, easy going charm of older FF games, and when it does get serious I feel it doesn't fall prey to the narmy melodrama later titles would. Materia is a user friendly system, but has a good amount of depth without being "OMG TOO MANY RULES SCREW IT I DON'T WANNA LEARN" like I would say LUCT is. In fact, the problem I have with a lot of new RPGs is that they have a bunch of rules that I don't want to learn about at all. This is why Dragon Quest and SMT have been fairly easy to pick up: because they're not hard to learn. VII's cast is also a colorful, memorable one and its world has a bunch of things to do.
What I dare say VII most has to offer, though, is that its minigames are FUN. Square Enix gets a ton of shit for not being able to make a good RPG anymore, but where they really fail is in making minigames. KH in particular is full of absurd, hard to figure out minigames that nobody would ever want to play but you're forced to do. VII, meanwhile, offers silly, no harm no foul games like snowboarding and motorcycling.
Which is also a thing worth pointing out: back in the day, Cloud wasn't cool because he was all dark and tragic, he was cool because he did cool stuff like ride a motorcycle, snowboard, race horses, and yeah, ran around a cyberpunk city with a big ol sword while he managed his love triangle.
OG Cloud was closer to Sonic the Hedgehog than AC Cloud in personality.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Just don't play it on a HDTV...man it looks bad. Play it on a CRT.
And ZidaneDagger had a really enjoyable romance.
And ZidaneDagger had a really enjoyable romance.
I swear i had to stare at this for five minutes before remembering that Sarah is garnet's real name >_>
Also, best romance confirmed.
Best romance would be Quina and Food.
I can't really put them in a ranking-order, but I'd say that FF VI is my favourite, followed by IX and X.
I didn't know Sarah was Garnet's real name
Zidane x Sarah is one cute little love story though
Still waiting for FF XV >_<
If you come back this same time next year you can say "Still waiting for FFXV" all over again! YAAAAY!
Meccanical
Member
And the year after that.
And the year after that.
And the year after that.
And the year after that.
So give us some figgy pudding
So give us some figgy pudding
So give us some figgy pudding
Or we'll carve up your wife
So sad yet so true...
I look forward to the day my grand son says this to someone on the internet. Perhaps in the days of my son's grand son the game will come out.
NHarmonic.
Member
Yes! WTF is wrong with that? It was really weird seeing Alyssa talk to noel's chest. You know, the guy has a face.
It was really nice seeing Hope again though
Yes! WTF is wrong with that? It was really weird seeing Alyssa talk to noel's chest. You know, the guy has a face.
It was really nice seeing Hope again though
There's this part where Noel is talking to Hope and neither of them are making eye-contact. They're like, checking each other's packages out during that scene and it is aaaaawkward.
Speaking of Alyssa, I retract my earlier comment about the elements of the game that are unrelated to XIII being fine. I will hate Alyssa forever and ever.
Meccanical
Member
All Toriyama characters must been at least an hour navel-gazing while talking to someone.
Find me a scene where two characters maintain eye contact with each other for the entire scene.
YOU CAN'T.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
They should have stuck with the top down view from the SNES games.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
I love the XIII fanbase. I mean, not that I didn't enjoy XIII for what it was, I did, but XIII-2 puts me squarely out of that fanbase and LR doesn't look to be changing that. But apparently, the argument is no longer "You don't need the datalogs, Ultimania, or novellas"... the argument is now "You should have inferred everything anyway. You're a dumbass if you can't".
I was told that was because, in Japanese culture, direct eye contact is frowned upon as aggressive. Just what I heard.
I was told that was because, in Japanese culture, direct eye contact is frowned upon as aggressive. Just what I heard.
I doubt that level of attention to detail went into XIII-2, and more to the point chest-staring wasn't a thing in XIII. Not in cut-scenes anyway.
Meccanical
Member
I can kind of buy that because in the Yakuza series you get a lot of eye contact pre-ass whooping.
Sounds like something they would say.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Makes sense in GILGAMESH'S case. He makes eye contact before attacking indiscriminately.
Sometimes Gilgamesh has four eyes.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Pretty sure he has six. The monster sash belt ain't there for nothing.
But other times he doesn't have any eyes at all.