Meccanical
Member
The audio drama isn't really the big issue though, it's that novel.
That novel is where all the good stuff is.
That novel is where all the good stuff is.
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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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Yeah, sure, except I did specifically ask about Final Fantasy. I know they've been putting things on hand helds, I'm not stupid, but remember how this whole train of complaint began? With the very specific complaint that there was no Final Fantasy for 3DS or Vita. I'll grant that BD is more FF than XIII is at this point, but at the same time I'm gonna be a bitch and insist that Nintendo is the one who gave "us" BD and not SE, as long as "us" is a term defined as "anyone who doesn't live inside Japan."
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Silicon Studios and Asano did. Along with Revo's music.
And Nintendo had to publish it in other regions. Telling.
Oh god if they animated that part I don't think I could stop laughing for years. There wouldn't be enough lulz in the world.
X-2 was awesome so hopefully it doesn't get retconned.
tiggerkiddo
Member
The music for BD seems very lovely at least.
Touché.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Which means you guys don't get the cloud saving stuff/website stuff that we do. :/
Yeah, the first half of the game is great. Good lord, I'm in-deep into the second half and if I couldn't give Ni no Kuni or Time and Eternity a free pass for doing that, I certainly can't give this game a free pass for it, either. This second half is seriously starting to ruin the game for me, even if I love everything else about it. This stuff is easily fixable, and the balancing with respect to jobs is fixable too (because it's so easy to find classes/skills that are completely OP and just auto-battle your way through a dungeon at times), so I hope Bravely Second changes it up a lot.
And yeah, I'm starting to see that as I keep mastering jobs. I'm more melee-based, and even if the job has a similar strength, it really isn't best to switch jobs all at once.
Localization is great. Improves a lot of the stuff that I hear in the JP dialogue in the English text, but Agnes's English voice is pretty bad.
tiggerkiddo
Member
You sound like a truly battered fan.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Keep your hype in check.
I'm not one of those crazies who blames the crap on myself yet. Then I'll be battered.
You really think someone as easily pleased as me is gonna be disappointed? I've heard the words "otaku pandering" tossed at this game once or twice, but as an anime thread regular, unless Agnes and Tiz turn out to be brother and sister or not brother and sister in spite of thinking they were while they are romancing each other I think I'll survive.
I mean I love Type-0 to bits and I didn't even understand that game's plot, so I think BD will work fine for me. Game looks like a really solid old school JRPG.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
In the localization I don't really see a lot of the otaku pandering. And I think the character designs are fine.
In fact, in the context of that sidequest, stuff that's done makes sense to me.
My issue is really with the last half of the game and how it plays out.
In fact, in the context of that sidequest, stuff that's done makes sense to me.
My issue is really with the last half of the game and how it plays out.
Eh, FFXII's endgame petered out, too, but I still think it's great. Type-0's endgame is sorta wonked and I still love it. I'll probably be fine.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I really want to tell you the nature of the endgame but I can't. 
I really want to tell you the nature of the endgame but I can't.
Haha, you can't spoil it, neener neener neener.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
For what it's worth, the game ventures into darker territory than I'd expected it to, plot/subplot-wise (especially if you do the asterisk sidequests). :V
tiggerkiddo
Member
Someone please spoil. I could care less of them.
I guess most people will tell you that XIII-2 is the best game in the trilogy. Its not set in stone though, its still a very divisive game.
Just put it like this: if you're not enjoying the gameplay, you will literally hate the shit out of the latter half of the chapters. Almost guaranteed.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well I'll definitely enjoy it. And besides I think the reasoning behind it is clever. Even if I hope storywise Bravely Second chooses a different way to go about it.
It was clever, I agree. Just not well executed.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Better then anything Toriyama wrote I'll bet. But honestly it was just the writer playing it safe. At the very least. The Jobmasters get some characterization regardless of how subtle or trival the changes in dialogue are.
tiggerkiddo
Member
How so?
Can't really argue with that lol
Because due to story reasons you'll
be doing the exact same thing for 3 or 4 chapters, quite literally. The story goes absolutely nowhere at this part.
I admit I'm a bit bitter about it, so it's possible I'm coming out harsher than intended. It's just that the twist had so much potential, they could have done so many crazy things with it. And then nothing happened.
tiggerkiddo
Member
What kind of story makes you do that?
Only read if you're not going to play Bravely Default, or have absolutely no interest in the twist or the story in general as I'll just go ahead and spoil it all:
one with parallel worlds. The twist in BD is that when you've awakened the four crystals, a beam of light will emerge somewhere in the world and you need to get Airy there. She'll, uh, gather its power? Or something, to rid the world of darkness. Except that this doesn't happen, you just get thrown to an alternate dimension. There you'll need to awaken the crystals again. Then you repeat this a couple more times. Then, to everyone's shock (it was super obvious though), Airy turns out to be evil! Oh my. Then you kill her, and her master. That's it.
There were so many possibilities. And there was so much weirdness, like
why in the fuck are they doing this again and again? Are they idiots? I thought they knew Airy was evil - the old man practically told them that in the face. Why is obeying the bad guy the way to get the true ending, when there's so much stuff about making your own decisions? etc etc
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Nope, I love the gameplay.
The later chapters are
complete bullshit padding in execution. There are so many other ways of doing this, but making the player do it in the way that they have to is obnoxious. If I knocked a few games for doing this already in 2013, I shouldn't let BD get a free pass because I like the job system and conveniences of the sequel's battle system.
Four chapters
I meant that if you really like the gameplay, you may end up enjoying the latter half too (although probably not), but if you're playing for the story, you will hate it.
e: unless i misunderstood you lol
Haha oh man, that's harsh. I can only imagine the disappointment
tiggerkiddo
Member
I always play RPG's for the story so this would turn me off big time. Shoot Star Ocean 3 turned me off enough that it took me months to go back to it.
Pretty sad reading that but I understand it pretty well. It's good when I don't want a game to end because I enjoy it but it didn't happen this time thanks to the tedium of the second half. Talking about GOTY, that's just the opposite of what my number 1 choice made me feel, so BD goes lower in my list than I'd have liked.
I thought the story was cool, but maybe I was too young when I played it so I was easily impressed.
Oh man, SO3. Considering the story was fine until it, the twist is probably the worst one I've ever seen in all of media, it really just ruined the whole game for me. Not even the very much hated Mass Effect 3 ending had that kind of effect on me. I've wanted to replay it for quite a while but just knowing what's coming is enough to turn me off lol
Really? I thought most people would say XIII.
I think it's wayyyyy better since I enjoyed a bigger cast and more variety.
tiggerkiddo
Member
And what makes it worse is that it pretty much means the other stories in the earler SO games have little impact in the grand scheme of things considering the twist of SO3. That burned me even more, much more because SO2 is my absolute favorite RPG ever.
Meccanical
Member
I've pretty much taken this stance about it too. SO2 was fantastic but I don't believe there's any connection to SO3, so pretending it has nothing to do with SO3's bullshit twist is pretty easy.
If XIII-2 had severed all storyline ties with XIII it would've been the better game. Like if you took the words "Final Fantasy" out of the title and severed the ties between the two games, XIII-2 would've been better.
That said, XIII is the "better" of the two because it actually ends. It doesn't have Noel, but it does have Fang and a Lightning not yet ruined by age.
Hey so that BD thread on gaming side. Haha, WOW those guys are nuts.
tiggerkiddo
Member
When in doubt, don't visit Gaming Side. People lose their minds over there.
Like OT is any better. During the Summer you can set your watch to the anti-religion threads and moral outrage news stories.
Meccanical
Member
Last time I went to OT there was a thread about a guy with two dicks.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Really, it depends on who you ask. Honestly, I've found that more people like XIII over XIII-2.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
What thread about censorship? Someone PM me!
Yeah I decided to skip that thread altogether. Arguments about censorship usually turn completely black and white, where the other side is full of perverts and subhumans and the other is a bunch of.. Uh, "over-protective, narrow minded people who want to ban everything for being hurtful to children/elders/women/men/animals/anything else but don't realize they're actually making things worse".
We got a perfect word for the latter group in Finnish but it doesn't really translate well
it's constantly floating on the first page dood
tiggerkiddo
Member
It isn't...I largely stick to subscribed topics nowadays, or just play games instead.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
This is a sentiment that I see a lot of people expressing, and I don't really blame them.
The thing I saw boiled down to "Yoshida drew this fairy's face this way, but she has tits and an ass, HE MUST BE A PEDO AND SO ARE YOU FOR LIKING HIS ART."
And then "At one point a character dresses up to seduce a guy, but things get bad from there!" which was appended "Won't somebody think of the
Like FF7's Don Corneo never happened.
Community is best side.