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[aravuus]

Fei, would you like to pilot this wicked awesome giant robot and save the world?
>Yes
>HELL YES

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON"T WANNA!"

*3 hours of pointless dungeons, stilted dialogue and "ominous foreshadowing" later*

Fei, would like to pilot this wicked awesome giant robot and save the world?

>Yes
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

"I'll do it, but I'll be sure to bitch about it EVERY TIME I TALK."

Different game but yeah, I agree.

Now that I think about it, none of the Xeno games had very likeable characters in my opinion. Gears was alright aside from Fei iirc, Shion single-handedly ruins Saga and Blade would probably be a ten out of ten in my eyes if Fiora never existed

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(or at least not make that fucking Disney death return, it would have eliminated the love triangle bullshit too, two things I hate so so so much)

Awesome stories though, lots of batshit insane twists. Gotta keep my expectations in check when X arrives.

 

[CorvoSol]

That is Xenogears bro.

DAMN IT.

Different game but yeah, I agree.

Now that I think about it, none of the Xeno games had very likeable characters in my opinion. Gears was alright aside from Fei iirc, Shion single-handedly ruins Saga and Blade would probably be a ten out of ten in my eyes if Fiora never existed

Spoiler

(or at least not make that fucking Disney death return, it would have eliminated the love triangle bullshit too, two things I hate so so so much)

Awesome stories though, lots of batshit insane twists. Gotta keep my expectations in check when X arrives.

I actually really loved Blade's cast. Shulk was generic but that felt like the entire point of his character. I was fine with

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Fiora coming back from the dead

because I'm a sucker for

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robot girls

and because it freed Melia up to be with Dunban. Best Girl was still Sharp Shoota Sharla, though.

 

[hipsterpants]

Playing FFX gives me the impression that FFXIII was Toriyama's attempt at making his own FFX yet impressively managing to make every single aspect inferior.

 

[CorvoSol]

Playing FFX gives me the impression that FFXIII was Toriyama's attempt at making his own FFX yet impressively managing to make every single aspect inferior.

Either that or his attempt to make FFVII.

Although actually I feel that a lot of FFXIII is based on inversions of FFIII. Ideally that whole "New Tale of the Crystal" thing could've focused on that.

Ideally FFXIII could've been a magnificent game.

 

[Dark Schala]

Xenoblade is one of Monolith Soft's better games along with BKO.

Though, uh, that doesn't say much since most of their games are poorly-designed. I hated Xenosaga and Xenogears (despite that being a Squaresoft-published game back when they were there). Awful to slog through. I feel like Monolith Soft works better as an art/graphics studio like Level-5. That's honestly their strongest suit, and that's kinda how Nintendo's been using them so far.

My god, Yuna is sooooooooooo boring. And I'm tired of all of Tidus' inner monologues already.

How... can you... not like... her?

Is it... because she talks like this? Because that was the fault... of the dubbing strategy. *looks down*

And I told you before elsewhere: Tidus is a massive wiener and Wakka sucks.

Either that or his attempt to make FFVII.

Although actually I feel that a lot of FFXIII is based on inversions of FFIII. Ideally that whole "New Tale of the Crystal" thing could've focused on that.

Ideally FFXIII could've been a magnificent game.

Oh well. That FF13 postmortem speaks volumes, really. I'm surprised SE hasn't done a postmortem for any game since FF13. I'm massively disappointed with that.

I should clarify a little: SE has done some (ie: rare) postmortem articles in Game Developer before FF13 and they haven't done one since FF13's... embarrassing... one. The TWEWY one is a fascinating read. I would've thought given how popular FF14 seems to be (even among game devs) and how much of a conversation starter that the FF13 games can be, they'd do one, but nope.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I will agree with Schala that Wakka sucks. He's responsible for a good deal of my eye rolling moments when I played the game.

 

[Professor Beef]

I actually don't mind Wakka. His voice is silly, but that's it.

And jesus fuck there's so many goddamned cutscenes. AND NO WAY TO SKIP THEM.

 

[Levyne]

I'm actually liking Wakka more and Tidus less in this playthrough than I remember. Eh

 

[Professor Beef]

Well, I still hate Blitzball.

 

[Dark Schala]

Beef you have to see EVERY cutscene. It's important. Especially the numerous polygonal butt shots in there for some reason.

Guess who the event director was, though.

Wakka sucks, not because he's a racist, but because he's a simpleton who cracks jokes at the most inopportune times. And he sucks at blitzball. And he has stupid hair. And he's kinda stupid in the sequel too.

 

[Levyne]

Just wish it was a little harder. I've had some tense 0-0 and 1-0 games with the Al Bhed team early on, but I roll over everyone else. It's just boring :/

 

[Jucksalbe]

Beef you have to see EVERY cutscene. It's important. Especially the numerous polygonal butt shots in there for some reason.

So basically, Rikku's (second) introduction scene is an early indication of what RPGs would become?

 

[CorvoSol]

Y'all just mad y'ain't like Brudda Chappu.

 

[Dark Schala]

So basically, Rikku's (second) introduction scene is an early indication of what RPGs would become?

All the buttshots.

Even the one of a 15-year-old.

butts butts butts

 

[CorvoSol]

All the buttshots.

Even the one of a 15-year-old.

butts butts butts

Would it really be Final Fantasy any other way, though?

 

[tiggerkiddo]

All the buttshots.

Even the one of a 15-year-old.

butts butts butts

Darnit Schala, why

 

[Professor Beef]

All the buttshots.

Even the one of a 15-year-old.

butts butts butts

booty booty booty booty booty buttcheeks

 

[Dark Schala]

Darnit Schala, why

Butts.

I haven't played FFX since I was 16, so at that time I didn't think much of it, heh.

Basically, I've only played it twice: once when it came out when I was 13, and once when I was 16. It'd be hilarious going through it now if I played through it like I did FF4.

 

[Levyne]

I'm dense, nevermind

 

[Blink Me]

Finally completed FF6. Definately my favourite out of 6,7 & 8 which I have played. Onto FF9 next.

 

[Professor Beef]

Oh god, the laughing scene is even more painful in context.

 

[Heropon]

I like the laughing scene because it means that the most boring segment of the game is about to end.

 

[Dark Schala]

Oh god, the laughing scene is even more painful in context.

You haven't lived until you've heard it in Japanese.

CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW

I like the laughing scene because it means that the most boring segment of the game is about to end.

Mi'ihen Highroad sucks, though.

music, pls

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Butts.

I haven't played FFX since I was 16, so at that time I didn't think much of it, heh.

Basically, I've only played it twice: once when it came out when I was 13, and once when I was 16. It'd be hilarious going through it now if I played through it like I did FF4.

You're gonna attract the wrong crowd with that vid

 

[Dark Schala]

It's not my fault the event director has a one-track mind. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Finally completed FF6. Definately my favourite out of 6,7 & 8 which I have played. Onto FF9 next.

I wish I'd felt the same way when I played it.

Hope you like FF9, though. That's one of my favourites.

 

[CorvoSol]

You haven't lived until you've heard it in Japanese.

CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW


Mi'ihen Highroad sucks, though.

music, pls

That awful road is like, the staircase or ladder in FF7 or MGS3, except not fun.

It's not my fault the event director has a one-track mind. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯


I wish I'd felt the same way when I played it.

You should just believe harder.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Does anyone have a good idea for a subtitle for the Dragon Quest community thread? The thread should be posted tomorrow if I don't screw up too much.

 

[injurai]

Yes, let us talk more about Rikku. Who has time for that pink haired sparkplug when you have Rikku.

 

[Professor Beef]

I think I like Kimahri *because* he doesn't speak. I'm scared of what I'll think of him when he eventually opens his mouth.

 

[CorvoSol]

Does anyone have a good idea for a subtitle for the Dragon Quest community thread? The thread should be posted tomorrow if I don't screw up too much.

The Official Dragon Quest |OT| If Pirates paced like this planks would span the pacific

I think I like Kimahri *because* he doesn't speak. I'm scared of what I'll think of him when he eventually opens his mouth.

 

[Jucksalbe]

The Official Dragon Quest |OT| If Pirates paced like this planks would span the pacific

I was looking for a more positive title.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

I was looking for a more positive title.

Puff Puff?

 

[Jucksalbe]

Puff Puff?

"Dragon Quest Community Thread: Puff-Puff"? Simple, yet elegant.

 

[Noi]

From Naoki Yoshida at GDC, reasons why FFXIV 1.0 was a flop:

Considering how SE was like at the time of XIII-XIV 1.0, I'm absolutely not surprised at that first bulletpoint.

 

[CorvoSol]

I was looking for a more positive title.

|OT| 80 more hours till the 1/4 mark!

 

[Ganon Dragmire]

should clarify a little: SE has done some (ie: rare) postmortem articles in Game Developer before FF13 and they haven't done one since FF13's... embarrassing... one. The TWEWY one is a fascinating read. I would've thought given how popular FF14 seems to be (even among game devs) and how much of a conversation starter that the FF13 games can be, they'd do one, but nope.

Have a link to that?

 

[CorvoSol]

From Naoki Yoshida at GDC, reasons why FFXIV 1.0 was a flop:

Considering how SE was like at the time of XIII-XIV 1.0, I'm absolutely not surprised at that first bulletpoint.

Unhealthy, obsessed, stupid and lazy are the main points, then?

Yeah that sounds like XIII/XIV.1 SE to me.

 

[Sinople]

From Naoki Yoshida at GDC, reasons why FFXIV 1.0 was a flop:

Considering how SE was like at the time of XIII-XIV 1.0, I'm absolutely not surprised at that first bulletpoint.

Surprisingly honest and harsh. Poor Tanaka ;_;

How is FFXIV solo play, btw? Are dungeons solo-able now?
I read your chocobo can participate in fights and is customizable, lol.

 

[Noi]

All the dungeons/bigger boss battles are team-based instances, but you can solo-queue to pair up with people who want to do whatever you want to do rather than have to shout for hours trying to get a party going for stuff. Pretty much all of the rest of the content outside of that is solo-able.

 

[Dark Schala]

Have a link to that?

Oooh, looked around and it looks like Gamasutra has the article reprinted in-full unlike the FF13 article. That's really cool. They included the pictures in the article (like this one) and everything. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/132401/postmortem_square_enixs_the_.php. I thought the culture clash, battle system stuff, and the full vocal soundtrack stuff were interesting.

Here I was trying to look it up in ProQuest, lol.

Both of the schools I attended subscribed to Game Developer Magazine, so that's how I ended up reading the magazine for the past near-decade.

All the dungeons/bigger boss battles are team-based instances, but you can solo-queue to pair up with people who want to do whatever you want to do rather than have to shout for hours trying to get a party going for stuff. Pretty much all of the rest of the content outside of that is solo-able.

is that why you want me to play this thing

 

[Noi]

is that why you want me to play this thing

I want you to play this thing cause its the best thing SE has put out in a long while. :V

 

[Dark Schala]

I want you to play this thing cause its the best thing SE has put out in a long while. :V

The last ok SE games I played were Bravely Default: For the Sequel and Fortune Street.

The last consistent SE games I played were Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 and Kingdom Hearts: Sleepily Giving Birth.

I dunno, man...

Gyromancer don't count cuz it's PopCap+SE.

 

[Noi]

would I be playing a bad SE game damn near every single day since last august

I like to think you know me better than that!

plus I told you about liam o brien's wrath, I should be good for game recs forever

 

[tiggerkiddo]

If you play XIV, play on the Ultros server where most of Gaf is.

 

[Sinople]

All the dungeons/bigger boss battles are team-based instances, but you can solo-queue to pair up with people who want to do whatever you want to do rather than have to shout for hours trying to get a party going for stuff. Pretty much all of the rest of the content outside of that is solo-able.

Thanks.
So it's exactly like WoW. I'll wait for a system similar to FFXI trust magic before trying it then.

 

[Levyne]

XIV really interests me, but I don't have enough time to play all I want to in the time I have available, adding an MMO to the mix just isn't going to work for me at the moment. Maybe the next FF mmo.

 

[Dark Schala]

XIV really interests me, but I don't have enough time to play all I want to in the time I have available, adding an MMO to the mix just isn't going to work for me at the moment. Maybe the next FF mmo.

Yeah, I'm basically waiting until June (ie: that's when I can afford it anyway), and I'm just going to play it for the trial period. If I don't like it, I don't like it. If I think it's okay, well, that's okay but I won't pay for it since I won't have the time to put into it.

 

[CorvoSol]

I want you to play this thing cause its the best thing SE has put out in a long while. :V

Until Curtain Call comes out.

 

[Dark Schala]

I played Curtain Call's demo.

It was Theatrhythm with button use, alright (except I'd recommend using the stylus on the field themes).

 

[Professor Beef]

Are there Blue Mages in FF14 yet?