I don't think it's as bad a story as the others do. I think it's very well-designed until a certain point when one particular thing can get in the way of a lot of the good it tries to do. Depending on your disposition, it'll make or break the game for you.
I'm saying that, and you like to tease that I hate video games.
And beat LR, if nothing else you'll get to fight a great Final Boss.
Honestly Corvo's depiction of BD makes it that much more enjoyable. Xenosaga's Shion Uzuki is still a total stupid ass bitch though. Hard to gauge who is worse. Agnes or Shion.
I don't like Shion.
Good lord...and this whole time, I'd been looking forward to picking up Bravely Default. I was already thinking to myself, "this is sounding an awful lot like Shion", when reading those earlier impressions, and now I'm seeing that suspicion confirmed. Shion is, bar none, the worst, most unlikable, least sympathetic, absolutely detestable lead I've ever had the displeasure of being introduced to in any JRPG that I've played for myself, and had a lot to do with why I hated Xenosaga (though by no means the only reason why). The idea of another "heroine" even coming close to rivaling how irredeemably abysmal she was is just...mortifying.Honestly Corvo's depiction of BD makes it that much more enjoyable. Xenosaga's Shion Uzuki is still a total stupid ass bitch though. Hard to gauge who is worse. Agnes or Shion.
I don't like Shion.
It's stupid, sure, but I didn't find it nearly as frustrating as the bullshit Bravely Default pulls, particularly the stuff corvo's referring to.
Never finished LR though so maybe it had some worse stuff later in the game.
Is Advent Children worth a watch?
This begs the question. Is an unlikable character necessarily a terrible thing?
I don't know about BD so I won't talk about it.. But im sure Shion from Xenosaga was deliberately portrayed that way. When a character is unlikable, if that character has understandable reasons to behave the way they do, Im ok with it, atleast that's what I want in return for having to put up with her bullshit. Also I think it was a pretty ballsy move to make Shion the main character, she is a very flawed person and that can turn off a lot of people to her character and consequently the games in general.
A lot of people are unlikable IRL, That's sadly just a reality of life.
I feel like I'm unqualified to talk about it because I don't know what I like, but generally if a character is unlikable because they are greedy or arrogant or narcissistic or overconfident, sometimes I can still enjoy them. Especially if it's used to explore concepts of morality or consequence or something like that. If they are dense or ignorant or stubborn then I find myself more likely to roll my eyes. Sometimes the line dividing the two is pretty hazy, I guess it boils down to exposure (is the character a protagonist across a long series or a one-off?) and perhaps the character's motivation and, as mentioned, how they react to consequence.
And that's not even touching the awkward probability of "well, you're supposed to not like him!" Because that could either mean "you're not supposed to agree with his methods or find him relatable" or "you're supposed to find him to be insufferable and wish he was cast differently and want to skip cutscenes because of him."
All I can say is that I think a clear example of "you're not supposed to like him" is Argath from FFT. The guy is douchelord supreme, and you shouldn't like anything about him.
Bravely Default
So I read them silly writings in D's Journal again and it's preeeetty hard not to know who it belongs to and from there make a guess as to who Ringabell is.
The journal is Alternis'. D for Dim or Dark Knight. In it he doesn't ever refer to Ringabell, so I assume the two are one and the same, and that time travel is definitely involved. Probably Alternis is the previous Ringabell who goes back in time and contracts amnesia in order to make up for his mistake and spend time with Edea. I guess.
All I can say is that I think a clear example of "you're not supposed to like him" is Argath from FFT. The guy is douchelord supreme, and you shouldn't like anything about him.
Bravely Default
So I read them silly writings in D's Journal again and it's preeeetty hard not to know who it belongs to and from there make a guess as to who Ringabell is.
The journal is Alternis'. D for Dim or Dark Knight. In it he doesn't ever refer to Ringabell, so I assume the two are one and the same, and that time travel is definitely involved. Probably Alternis is the previous Ringabell who goes back in time and contracts amnesia in order to make up for his mistake and spend time with Edea. I guess.
Well you can guess what I used the rename feature for.
I dunno, I'm probably bias since I actually liked Lightning in XIII and LR was a goddamn character assassination. That, and it was so hilariously poorly written. *Was not happy how the story turned out*
Corvo,you wish it was time travel, the truth is much more retarded.
I dunno, I'm probably bias since I actually liked Lightning in XIII and LR was a goddamn character assassination. That, and it was so hilariously poorly written. *Was not happy how the story turned out*
Edge's chapter approach of having several ministories with characters of the same class but with different stats was pretty interesting. The only bad thing about that is that these ninjas seem like those characters that you never used in Chrono Cross and were only there for collection purposes.
Another thing I liked was how repeating elements from FFIV was not only limited to "All these misfortunes are happening again and in the same way for some strange reason!" and Edge used his knowledge of the Tower of Babil's layout in his favor.
Inside the challenge dungeon I could realize how squishy these ninjas were. That place also had the thinnest margin between THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE and EASIEST DUNGEON EVER.
The Eblan Four are DEFINITELY among the group of "for collection purposes only." Of the new characters, the ones I found most useful were Ceodore, Ursula, Leonora and Luca. Calca, Brina, Gekkou, Tsukinowa, Izayoi, Zangetsu, and Harley are kinda meh. Edge is Edge, and Palom and Porom are pretty solid (Dualcast actually makes it so that Palom or Porom is the best regular mage in the game, I think.)
The game's biggest problem is that it's repetitive towards the end and it's amazing how much that brings the entire package down for the player. And all of that shit was mandatory in the original version vs being optional now.
That isn't necessarily the story, but rather, the game structure. BD's game structure is fairly poor. The problem is that this flies fairly well in the writer's other game, Steins;Gate, because that game was a visual novel as opposed to an RPG. You only get scenes with that kind of stuff as opposed to being told to play through it. Thus it's less taxing on the player. With what BD does, it can genuinely unmotivate a player because not only are you retreading, but you also have to deal with other aspects of an RPG like replenishing supplies, unlocking areas, fighting enemies who got stat boosts or evolutions, etc. Thus it's more involved than a visual novel. Lots of fat that desperately needed trimming.I dunno, I think its pretty bad when a story can completely demotivate me from playing it anymore. I was excited and interested even with Agnes being completely intolerable up until the end of chapter 4, then chapter 5 started and I can't summon the will to pick up the game and keep playing anymore. You'd have an easier time convincing me to pick up Lightning Returns or re-play Dirge of Cerberus than continuing to play BD. I really don't care about the game anymore.
"Dirge of Cerberus is a bad game, but it's alright to play!"I've never preached about Dirge of Cerberus. Don't believe Schala's lies!
I haven't hit LR yet but that's how I feel about her in XIII-2. I actually even liked her in Dissidia, since she did shit I wanted to do likeLightning being a wasted character is kind of just the poster for how all of XIII is wasted potential.call out Cosmos for her bullshit.
DBZ Sagas
"Dirge of Cerberus is a bad game, but I found it alright to play and even had some fun with it!"
This so much. Lightning was one of the more likeable characters in Dissidia in my opinion. It's such a shame how XIII's characters were ruined by it's bad writing, because I really like their Designs.
You playing XIII-2?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I stopped playing bad games for a while. I feel better now. :Vis more accurate to what Ive said before, you dirty word-twister.
I don't really think so. It's more the journey that's getting flak.I'm kind of tempted to spoil myself on the "big" twist that ruins the game.
I can't be that bad, right?
What were your first encounters with Final Fantasy like?
I am one of the younger guys here I think, so my first contact with Final Fantasy was the seventh game.
My first Final Fantasy was Final Fantasy 1. On the NES.
I can't help when I was born! I actually played Kingdom Hearts before any Final Fantasy, so that kinda sparked my interest.Your first was on PS2? Shameful
What were your first encounters with Final Fantasy like?
I can't help when I was born! I actually played Kingdom Hearts before any Final Fantasy, so that kinda sparked my interest.