Yeah, some fans see a character as so perfect that the character has to be god and watching over them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj66f6Pvyuk
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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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Yeah, some fans see a character as so perfect that the character has to be god and watching over them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj66f6Pvyuk
Sweet, I know what I'm doing this weekend
Or dislike certain characters.
Or like current games.
Or dislike certain games.
But you know how the FF community works, My Favorite FF is the only good one and every one since then is literally the worst game ever, Square-Enix is dead to me, etc.
It's a bit strange when you think about it, it's like someone saying Star Wars episode 4 is the only good one and will keep saying that in every single SW discussion...for 30 years.
Something to be learned there.
One of the fun parts about FFVIII is exploiting the game, never fight a single random battle until the end of the game (rather, card enemies for AP and no EXP).... Use cards to get high level magic early and junction them early. Exploiting Seifer and Edea to level up GFs... Then when you get all the GFs, you can use the stat up abilities as you actually gain levels to get crazy stats.
Zoe
Member
Anime usually gives them hick or New Yorker accents. But anything that would have shown her outer cutesy persona was a front would have worked.
I believe the core of the problem takes root from how people constantly want to rank things rather than considering them as valuable.
I personally think every FF has something good about it. Yes, even 14.
Along the same lines, every FF has something bad about it.
The point is to appreciate the art without de-evolving into a religious-like schism of how everyone's opinion becomes fact.
I actually find the idea of liking something for 30 years and denying ANY improvements a little depressing. It's like seeing grandpa refuse to touch a computer because he files things on paper dammit and it was better that way, dammit!
GameFAQs was worse. People insisting that Krile rep 5.
KRILE. You know, like, one of the absolute worst characters in the series, repping one of the best games.
Ugh Gamefaqs. Why would they put Krile in over Faris? I shouldn't be surprised.
I like that GAF is more chill, even if the FF threads always get out of hand.
Zoe: hahah what? Selphie had an inner voice that had an accent? lol
Huh, you're right. I was thinking it happened when I joined but that was when Dissidia came out, not Duodecim.
Yup, that's the one.
Yeah, they were super weird about reps.
I like that GAF is more chill, even if the FF threads always get out of hand.
Zoe: hahah what? Selphie had an inner voice that had an accent? lol
Zoe
Member
Yeah, it first comes out during the missile section IIRC.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
That's okay. We got the best rep(OF EVERY GOOD GAME) instead. Toriyama tried to ruin it with a different VA but that wasn't enough.
Even worse than the rankings' wars we have here.
I like that GAF is more chill, even if the FF threads always get out of hand.
Those get out of hand because people ultimately care about FF and want to defend their positions tooth and nail in that respect. DF's threads get ouf of hand because people take offend even at harmless contradictions, which not only kills discussion but also leads to hypocrisy. Yeah, I think that's really where the difference is at between the two: people's honesty.
FF8 was also censored in ways most people didn't even realize.
1. Gerogero in America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yTbKBE5TChU#t=74s
Japan:
He looks a bit like the "Unknown" series of monsters from FF5 and 7.
2. You can scan everything in the game, including your own characters and the final boss. You can also rotate the models of everything, including the final boss. Example of Quistis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wfwt2ancHms#t=2559s
Except there's ONE model that can't be scanned and rotated: Selphie. Obviously because they didn't want any 13 year old perverts to look up her skirt.
3. Not really censorship so much as a misunderstanding of the translator, but the sorceress's speech is slightly clearer that sorceresses were hunted down and persecuted and that she was taking over the country--not "mind control" as some people thought it was back then. It really is a fascist takeover.
Squall also doesn't say "Whatever" that much, but that's practically his catchphrase now.
1. Gerogero in America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yTbKBE5TChU#t=74s
Japan:
He looks a bit like the "Unknown" series of monsters from FF5 and 7.
2. You can scan everything in the game, including your own characters and the final boss. You can also rotate the models of everything, including the final boss. Example of Quistis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wfwt2ancHms#t=2559s
Except there's ONE model that can't be scanned and rotated: Selphie. Obviously because they didn't want any 13 year old perverts to look up her skirt.
3. Not really censorship so much as a misunderstanding of the translator, but the sorceress's speech is slightly clearer that sorceresses were hunted down and persecuted and that she was taking over the country--not "mind control" as some people thought it was back then. It really is a fascist takeover.
Squall also doesn't say "Whatever" that much, but that's practically his catchphrase now.
Interesting stuff. I knew about the scanning one and that they has a few issues with the speeches but I didn't know about the gerogero change. I'm now so used to the blue.FF8 was also censored in ways most people didn't even realize.
1. Gerogero in America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yTbKBE5TChU#t=74s
Japan:
He looks a bit like the "Unknown" series of monsters from FF5 and 7.
2. You can scan everything in the game, including your own characters and the final boss. You can also rotate the models of everything, including the final boss. Example of Quistis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wfwt2ancHms#t=2559s
Except there's ONE model that can't be scanned and rotated: Selphie. Obviously because they didn't want any 13 year old perverts to look up her skirt.
3. Not really censorship so much as a misunderstanding of the translator, but the sorceress's speech is slightly clearer that sorceresses were hunted down and persecuted and that she was taking over the country--not "mind control" as some people thought it was back then. It really is a fascist takeover.
Squall also doesn't say "Whatever" that much, but that's practically his catchphrase now.
The main one I know about is the Griever summon scan not being translated properly. I believe in the Japanese version it explains how Ultimecia summoned him.
Femmeworth
Banned
XIII-2
In Academia 400 AF,
In Academia 400 AF,
I am so tired of fighting Cie'th. This scenario is shit, would be somewhat better if this were an ARPG. This is a clusterfuck, you can't even take in what's going on because enemies keep spawing so rapidly.
Yeah, this was pretty much like the stupidest thing in the whole game.
That part was the WORST
Oh man, going back there to fill out the map is a NIGHTMARE. Doing sidequests there? NO THANKS.
And I was so excited at first, but the events that Academia 400 AF kicks off are among the most insipid arcs in the whole game.
Still, there was one good moment there.
Femmeworth
Banned
The Hands of Time puzzles can sod off. Who thought this was a good idea?
It's not like it was going to be a good game anyway, so why not go full tilt and make it memorably bad?
So it appears Square-Enix has a new representative director, Yosuke Matsuda, who was the chief financial officer until now.
There are 3 RD now, as it seems both Wada and Honda still remains respectively CEO and vice-president.
His new role is to strengthen the management structure.
There are 3 RD now, as it seems both Wada and Honda still remains respectively CEO and vice-president.
His new role is to strengthen the management structure.
You're probably completely alone with this opinion.
As someone else mentioned, the static ones where you can come up with a solution via repeated attempts were fine. The randomly generated ones where the most terrible thing.
Femmeworth
Banned
It's not that they are bad puzzles, they just don't fit in the context of the game.
'You demand for more Mini-games? Fine, have all the Mini-games you want!'
Because of course, when I demand something, I only demand quantity and not quality.
Femmeworth
Banned
Speaking of things added because of fan demand, Academia is absolutely boring. I know HD towns are hard and all but they could have done a better job. I doubt the towns in Lightning Returns are going to be much better.
Academia is boring because it has all the content of the Archelytte Town in five times the space, so your time is spent walking doing nothing, looking at nothing, trying to avoid eye contact with the AAA GAME neanderthals that make up any non-main character populous in the entire game.
And then you have the great conversations where Noel and Hope stand two inches from each other and stare straight down at each others' crotches while they gesticulate.
AAA game.
Femmeworth
Banned
Seriously, the game should have spent another year in the oven. The idle animation conversations are Deadly Premonition bad, without the charm. Lightning Returns is going to be so polished.
Edit: I was talking to a soldier in the Vile Peaks near the "dangerous" monster and Serah's AI walked up to it during the conversation. Quality game.
But it's pretty and pretty is quality! I've seen this argument presented in like, four FFXIII threads so it must be true! And I've seen people insist in long posts multiple times! It HAS to be true!
You just don't like thongs.
Femmeworth
Banned
This just turned into a crappy platformer. WHY.
It's not even that good looking, most of the time.
One of the worst final dungeons I've played.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Hahahaha. I hate that dungeon.
Terribly designed. Terrible handling. So slow. Just awful.
Just because it's pretty doesn't mean it's great.
AHAHAHA GUESS WHAT EVERYTHING GETS AWFUL FROM THERE.
Nu-uh! Good looks are an important part of Final Fantasy and what make it a AAA game. I saw this on GameFAQs so it must be true.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I think I wrote up a few posts about why I genuinely disliked the final dungeon somewhere around here, but yeah. It's pretty awful.
Meccanical
Member
The FFXIII saga in a nutshell.
Femmeworth
Banned
I thought I was prepared for anything, I was wrong.
I'll give you a hint: it happens like clockwork in every FF thread.
Let me know when you finish it, because oh man I hope your reaction is akin to mine.
Star Wars episode 4 is the best and all the rest suck!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I've stayed out of FF/SE threads lately for a reason!
Meccanical
Member
Star Wars was never good!
No it's more like Star Wars episode III is the best because it has the flashiest sword fights!
Episodes V and VI are the best.
Search your feelings, you know you want to know.
Boba Fett is the most deep character ever made, all the prequel characters suck. Lucas ruined Star Wars ever since he started doing the designs!