Why not? It's a fun game.
Fun is sort of the reason people play games.
Most of the people who hate FFx-2 seem to have the same reason, the "It's too girly jpop" excuse.
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Why not? It's a fun game.
Fun is sort of the reason people play games.
Most of the people who hate FFx-2 seem to have the same reason, the "It's too girly jpop" excuse.
It's not fun to me and despite not enjoying the music, it has nothing to do with it being jpop
Opinions, how do they work?
Kind of weird to say this after seeming surprised in learning that there are people who enjoy FFX-2.
tiggerkiddo
Member
It really wasn't that obvious...
Sorry. Thought saying I don't want to live because people like a certain game would be quite obvious. My bad.
Moving past all that, the question is still "why not?"
The battle system was great, it felt like an updated Chrono Trigger. It was a bit too easy, I admit, though.
Music is subjective, understandably, but I find it hard to believe that NONE of these songs have any quality to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5BzGwUqGzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp1-0WU1Ox8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIpDvfqh4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6imJKgRDrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmjanIdpWKM Bosssss figgghtt muuusiicc
As for the characters, well, that's also subjective, but I found FFX-2 to be one of the few FF to legitimately explore a female character's growth in depth. How often do you get a female POV and hear her thoughts and fears? Reminded me a bit of Squall; people may not have liked him but they got to UNDERSTAND him.
And the "bad" ending is one of the best of the series.
You're missing out on a good experience by dismissing X-2.
The battle system was great, it felt like an updated Chrono Trigger. It was a bit too easy, I admit, though.
Music is subjective, understandably, but I find it hard to believe that NONE of these songs have any quality to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5BzGwUqGzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp1-0WU1Ox8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIpDvfqh4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6imJKgRDrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmjanIdpWKM Bosssss figgghtt muuusiicc
As for the characters, well, that's also subjective, but I found FFX-2 to be one of the few FF to legitimately explore a female character's growth in depth. How often do you get a female POV and hear her thoughts and fears? Reminded me a bit of Squall; people may not have liked him but they got to UNDERSTAND him.
And the "bad" ending is one of the best of the series.
You're missing out on a good experience by dismissing X-2.
The music is okay and the price isn't that bad but I mean COME ON. The point system is out of whack.
Is Ipsen's Castle Kuja's, or is that where I get the pseudocrystal things?
Also I forgot how annoying it was for Garnet to waste dungeons of game time emo. People give Squall crap but at least his emotions never prevented him from doing anything for a turn. Which fucking Gym do I need to beat to get this Pokemon back in line? Battles are too slow for you to waste turns crying, honey.
Professor Beef
Banned
Nah, Ipsen's Castle is a dungeon where everyone's weapon power is inverted.
Do I get the airship before or after this point?
Professor Beef
Banned
Before. In fact, it's suggested you go there as soon as you have access to it, IIRC.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
FFII ain't fun. :T
Fun: IV, VI, VII, IX (yes, I know the battle system is slower than FFXV's development), X, X-2, XII, XIII, XIII-2
Unfun: I, III, V, VIII
Despicable: II
Fun: IV, VI, VII, IX (yes, I know the battle system is slower than FFXV's development), X, X-2, XII, XIII, XIII-2
Unfun: I, III, V, VIII
Despicable: II
Definitely weird. But why?
You know what's funny, Chocobo Hot and Cold was my favourite side quest in FF9. (><)
About FFX-2.
I can understand why people don't like this game, not that I approve, because it is very fun game to play, even if it's a bit too pop, too fansericy and story isn't really interesting. But saying it's no fun?! You must have very strange definition of fun.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
The problem with II (not the SNES IV rename) is the core gameplay. It's easily broken because the fact you can attack your own party members without ever attacking the enemies and gain a number of levels for strength, defense, etc and be overpowered by the end of the game.
ya, but do you need to do that? It's still one of greatest games of its time and I did nothing of the sort first time playing till the end of game, remember a game being rather hard, engaging and kinda depressing, what was a new thing too.
So many games can be broken (FF8 for example), but that not necessary is intended to be done while you know nothing of the game, i.e. play it for the first time. And even if you become aware of it, it happens too late in game to sully impression, no?
tiggerkiddo
Member
I started using Eiko here and never bothered with Dagger again.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Ranking the main games:
Level 99:
VI,VII,XII,XIII
Level 80 something:
VIII, IX, X ,IV
Got the Airship
III,V, XIV,
Left the first village:
I, II, XI
Level 99:
VI,VII,XII,XIII
Level 80 something:
VIII, IX, X ,IV
Got the Airship
III,V, XIV,
Left the first village:
I, II, XI
Professor Beef
Banned
Yup. They make it quite clear early on in the game that Dagger is the Summoner and Eiko is the true White Mage.
That's kind of cheating, though. Doing the 'last mile' in IX is harder than any other FF, and by two miles.
You were doing okay till you dissed V. I could have accepted your dislike of 8 as a difference of opinions and was willing to admit that from a technical standpoint 1 and 3 weren't that special.
But 5? C'mon man it's 5.
I hate Eiko. She's awful. Worst character in the game. Only truly bad member of the entire cast.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
I was actually ranking the games. I fixed my post a bit to avoid more confusion.
As for IX, I recently did another playthrough of VII,VIII, and IX is next. Let's see how that goes.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I don't mind her...she is a brat but I thought she was kinda hilarious and she is a great healer. Only character I could never find a use for was probably Aramant.
Being useful is one thing. Krile was useful. She was still the worst character in the entire series until Genesis and Snow came along.
tiggerkiddo
Member
What was the problem with Krile? I have to admit to not paying much attention to her when she showed up lol
Professor Beef
Banned
All that FF4 has twisted Corvo's mind and tainted his perceptions of good and bad.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
I don't understand how you can put FF12 down there. It's the most innovative and forward thinking Final Fantasy game since Tactics. Seriously.
I don't think the story was all that, but quite of the other games where redundant anime cliches as far as their story and character went. Matsuno got robbed. Unforgiveable!
Because he didn't think it was very fun. I don't understand why it's so hard to understand.
If you were to ask me, I'd rate XII pretty low too, somewhere behind FF VII-X. I really liked XII too though, the battle system is just perfect.
Playing through ff7 at the moment. I still think the backgrounds in this game are gorgeous. I love the way they played with the angles. All you get now is fps view or over the shoulder. I love when they backdrops are semi animated with the lighting and stuff.
I'm at the glacier right now and it's so pretty. Would be nice if they had an hd version of it. Looks kind of stretched on my tv
I'm at the glacier right now and it's so pretty. Would be nice if they had an hd version of it. Looks kind of stretched on my tv
Schala posted my reasons for not liking her a few pages back. Lemme go check. EDIT: Here's one post, but it isn't the one I'm looking for.
tiggerkiddo
Member
The only reason I can think of is that she's a Mary Sue.
It's basically that, but I had a good illustration of how bad of a Mary Sue she was.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I can see that, she does scream Mary Sue in the way she outshines absolutely everyone. The next translation of FFV should point this out and poke fun
Now I don't remember if it was in this thread, the Sonic one or the Megaman one. But the idea is that Krile isn't just a perfect Mary Sue, but she's one who is better than the cast at their own things. Like, Bartz is a talented swordsman whose father was a world-renowned soldier. Krile is a little girl who manages to best him in a fight. Also her grampa was a legendary hero, too! Lenna is all about dragons. She couldn't mutilate one to save her mother's life. Krile has one too! Faris is grieving the death of her animal friend. KRILE CAN HEAR ITS THOUGHTS. Ex-Death is a magical demon sorcerer. She breaks his spell with one attack! Galuf and his followers can't land a meteor worth a damn, but Krile can land it on a floating city! Lenna is a princess! So is Krile! ETC, ETC.
And so on. She isn't her own character, she's just a Mary Sue stitched from the qualities of better characters.
And so on. She isn't her own character, she's just a Mary Sue stitched from the qualities of better characters.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Welp...
Good thing the story of V isn't worth paying attention to except for laughing at!
That's all well and good, but it doesn't excuse Krile from being a horrible character, especially since she doesn't contribute to the comedy and is played completely straight. If the game lampshaded her or anything that'd be one thing, but it doesn't. It just wants you to suck on the fact that Krile gets to have a dragon and fly around in the ending while the end of the game focuses on her, her, her.
I ALWAYS kill Krile during the final battle so that the ending will be better.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I didn't really like FFV because the story was completely average compared to VI and yes, IV. Plus I was mixed on the job system. I'm not a fan of job systems so yeah, that's probably why.
The piano tracks were amazing.
The piano tracks were amazing.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Corvo, it was in the FF 25th anniversary thread when you wrote that wonderful Ode to Krile.
Man, Ultros finds the games I like unfun.
Man, Ultros finds the games I like unfun.
Corvo, it was in the FF 25th anniversary thread when you wrote that wonderful Ode to Krile.
Man, Ultros finds the games I like unfun.
Right, but I can't find where in that thread.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Darn, is your heart as black as the raven you have for an avatar?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Corvo, it was in the FF 25th anniversary thread when you wrote that wonderful Ode to Krile.
Man, Ultros finds the games I like unfun.
At least we like Suikoden!
Suikoden ;_;
That's it. I feel so much better now. Sometimes my rage ages quite nicely.
I don't play innovation or intents, I play games and FF12 is no fun, seriously. Well, that's not entirely true, first 10-20 hours are fun, and a world looks great, but that's about it, Matsuno or no Matsuno. I actually forced myself to finish it.
Suikoden gets mentioned! Oh Suikoden, where are thou!
Anyway, how often do you replay FFs people, if at all?
I used to replay FF6 pretty often, but last time I replayed was already long time ago. I used to play FF7 annually, for about 10 years, then took a break, still last year replayed it and it is still awesome. Amazing, when one thinks how old this game is.
Played FF4 DS remake, not really fond of art style but it was fun to play.
I plan to replay X and X-2 (HD versions) too.
Often I have urge to replay 5 but something gets in a way all the time!
Oh I replayed FF8 several times too, all others I replayed at least once, excluding 12-13-13-2.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I have never replayed XII but only because I don't have the energy to do all the sidequests again...and I refuse to replay XIII and XIII-2 for obvious reasons. Everything else gets replayed.
Except for 2...
Except for 2...
NinjaJesus
Member
Wrong thread. Forgive me lol
So you never liked 2, even when played it for the first time? Mind if I ask you when was it? I mean, how long after it's time.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Couple years ago...I hate the battle system like the plague and there are also other things that tick me off like the empty rooms or how the game severely punishes you for walking off the beaten path...that darn game...