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Final Fantasy: Record Keeper |OT3| When having no onions makes you cry
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Congrats! I've literally done like 20 pulls on Onion Banners and nothing.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
I guess I should finally try Torment. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have the relics to beat any content this game can dish out. The only thing stopping me is laziness lol.
I actually had that same thought or somewhat similar today.
As I freely admit, I don't like gimick stuff or battles that have to be done a certain way.
But I've beat several nightmares and a few mote dungeons with little effort, so maybe I should at least try a d200 Torment.
But I'm telling you guys, if it sucks, I'm going to whine, bitch, moan, cry, and tell you I need level 150 to do it!
Good news is I hate nightmare for the gimmicks, torment is just straight up hard fights. So no bullshit at least.
Serious Question:
You only have 1 real Holy relic?
I don't whale, and that's by far my strongest element. In my little list I made, I have 9-10 people with SSB/BSB/OSB that are Holy damage and/or Holy Buff/Debuff.
I just kinda assumed everybody that's been playing a while probably has that. Because I'm the guy with no native wall, doesn't have Refia relic, OK Gauntlets, TGC OSB, Ramza Shout, or anything Cid Raines.
You know, I played all the Final Fantasies as they were released to include Tactics. I skipped Mystic Quest on SNES. Anyway so with that entry-note, my first real experience to gimmicks in this game was Final Fantasy 10 with that Monster Hunter or whatever battles. You know, the guy with the cave at the largest Overworld or whatever? I was all lvl 99's with "Create-Your-Own" Ultimate weapons using Dark Matter and all that crap, and those battles stomped me other than like 1 or 2 of them.
I go read on the internet how you had to do this, then that, then this, then that, and I had Zero desire to ever attempt that. It didn't become a challenge of can I, or am I leet enough, it became a can I memorize the order of steps or pause and remind myself what step is next.
When the remaster rolled around like 10 years later, I completely skipped that little cave.
cpp_is_king
Member
What realm are we getting?
I got a bunch of 5* stuff to R3 now, maybe I can go and CM a few of them that I wasn't able to before, and clear D250's on the rest.
Funny I'm the other way around. The straight up hard fights are basically just simple hone checks, if you have them you win, otherwise you don't. The Nightmare fights actually require paying attention and skill (I mean, insofar as a game like this *can* require skill, but you know what I mean). I wish every event boss in the game were like the nightmare fights so you couldn't just steamroll everything with high level characters.
Sigh....
It's really going to bug me if I can't beat him. I kind of wish I didn't have the needed parts, then it wouldn't matter, but since I do I can't let it go.
So close! You can do it!
Yep, only hope ninurta lol.
I have stacks of sought after relics, Ysh burst, ok gauntlets, Alphinaud burst, sheep song, vanille burst, luneth, etc. Just no holy
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Yep. I just finished the Nightmare records a few days ago and just did my last mote CM today (Reno RW tip ftw!).
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So when the new daily orb things start, will they finally have summon orbs as well?
BassForever
Member
I just don't find torments fun to actually do. Its almost too much of a difficulty leap where it goes into being a frustrating challenge instead of a fun one.
malboroking
Banned
I got Onion Knight's OSB, but his stats are horrible and at level 60 it does less damage than many of my 5-star abilities. Am I missing something that makes him not a terrible character?
Mr. Bubble
Member
OK gets huge stat gains in the last few levels. Basically, he needs to be lvl 99.
Officer.Sanchez
Member
cpp_is_king
Member
Because of anniversary, I'm swimming in orbs:
- I can make and R2 Saint Cross or Gaia Cross, or hone Ultra Cure
- I can hone Chain Firaga to R3, or make and hone a different Chain spell to R2
- I have Zell BSB, so I can make and hone a monk ability for him, probably Fires Within for sustain or Exploding Fist for damage
- I could make Powerchain for Orlandu
- I could make Thief's Revenge for Vaan and/or Yuffie
- I could hone my third Lifesiphon to R3, or my first to R4
So much stuff I could do, but I don't know what I should do.
- I can make and R2 Saint Cross or Gaia Cross, or hone Ultra Cure
- I can hone Chain Firaga to R3, or make and hone a different Chain spell to R2
- I have Zell BSB, so I can make and hone a monk ability for him, probably Fires Within for sustain or Exploding Fist for damage
- I could make Powerchain for Orlandu
- I could make Thief's Revenge for Vaan and/or Yuffie
- I could hone my third Lifesiphon to R3, or my first to R4
So much stuff I could do, but I don't know what I should do.
I prefer sant's cross over Gaia Cross. Gaia Cross is a nice taunt and I do use it sometimes but having WoL or Pecil or others carry Sants Cross, Banishing Strike and an Azure Blade RM is pretty potent.
I'd have some of each Chainga.
The monk abilities in this game I don't like much. The two you mention I have and use, but they still don't do anything for me. I guess Fires Within is a preference to me since it has a heal attached.
If anybody is having trouble with the FF3 Eye boss for onion motes, I've already gotten two and I'm basically farming him.
What works for me:
Onion Knight (99) Fullbreak/Magic Breakdown - Feral Might - (Has mini medica with blowback)
Relm (99) Protectga/Curaja - Into the Fray (prot/shell/haste) (Has burst medica)
Thancred ((99) - Raging Storm/Doppelblade - NinjaDmg RM (Has Wind SSB)
Alphinaud (99) - Shellga/Curaise - Haste (Has Wind BSB and Deployment Tactics)
Zidane (99) - DashSlash/LiffeSiphon - WindDmg RM (Has Wind BSB)
Forr RW, I've done it with wall, with Luneth Wind BSB, and various USB.
Once Zidane lands his Wind BSB, it's basically over. Everybody follows with their Wind spells. Very Fast Fight.
What works for me:
Onion Knight (99) Fullbreak/Magic Breakdown - Feral Might - (Has mini medica with blowback)
Relm (99) Protectga/Curaja - Into the Fray (prot/shell/haste) (Has burst medica)
Thancred ((99) - Raging Storm/Doppelblade - NinjaDmg RM (Has Wind SSB)
Alphinaud (99) - Shellga/Curaise - Haste (Has Wind BSB and Deployment Tactics)
Zidane (99) - DashSlash/LiffeSiphon - WindDmg RM (Has Wind BSB)
Forr RW, I've done it with wall, with Luneth Wind BSB, and various USB.
Once Zidane lands his Wind BSB, it's basically over. Everybody follows with their Wind spells. Very Fast Fight.
New one is FFT.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
Man I'm loving this imperil dark of gabranth.
Here is my story dungeon team-
Gabranth bsb imperil dark
Garland bsb
Jecht bsb
Tyro for medals
Healer
Lifesiphon to full bars, unleash the imperil and just go to town. Super simple and quick, it helps that I have a couple dark bangles to add some kick for the first imperil round.
Imperils on hand
Lightning x2 lightning bsb cid ssb
Ice-Laguna ssb
Dark gabranth bsb
Water rikku bsb
Holy is elusive despite dropping shitloads of mythril on various banners.
Here is my story dungeon team-
Gabranth bsb imperil dark
Garland bsb
Jecht bsb
Tyro for medals
Healer
Lifesiphon to full bars, unleash the imperil and just go to town. Super simple and quick, it helps that I have a couple dark bangles to add some kick for the first imperil round.
Imperils on hand
Lightning x2 lightning bsb cid ssb
Ice-Laguna ssb
Dark gabranth bsb
Water rikku bsb
Holy is elusive despite dropping shitloads of mythril on various banners.
cpp_is_king
Member
Nice! That's one of my strongest realms. Agrias bsb/ssb/ssb2, orlandeau osb/bsb, shout, gaff/mustadio ssb, ovelia medica/magic blink, and almost every relic is 8*.
I'll probably try to run Orlandeau, Agrias, Ovelia, Ramza, and then I'm not sure if I'll give the last spot to Gaffgarion for Ether or Mustadio for Pentabreak
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
Garland is one of those characters who doesn't get much attention, but I feel like he's pretty neat-- if you have his relics anyway. AOE ATK/DEF debuff, AOE imperil Dark, and en-Dark BSB. Potent ability set, either by himself or in combination with other Dark element users.
So... what other gacha games do people play?
I have tried:
Valkyria Crusade - got bored after awhile, grindy
Chain Chronicle - used to like it a lot, despite its ridiculous 1.7% 5* rate. However the global version shut down.
Fire Emblem Heroes - the lack of content + my bad luck on pull makes me pause.
FFBE - too grindy + 5* rate sucks
Soccer Spirits - too grindy that cannot be macro.
I have tried:
Valkyria Crusade - got bored after awhile, grindy
Chain Chronicle - used to like it a lot, despite its ridiculous 1.7% 5* rate. However the global version shut down.
Fire Emblem Heroes - the lack of content + my bad luck on pull makes me pause.
FFBE - too grindy + 5* rate sucks
Soccer Spirits - too grindy that cannot be macro.
Man Called Aerodynamics
Member
I tried both Brave Exvius and Mobius Final Fantasy, uninstalled both within a couple of hours. No desire to try any other games. Not enough hours in the day (or money in my bank account lol).
malboroking
Banned
I thought it would be something like that. Time to grind him up and spend a Memory Lode 3 on him.
Hippopuncher12
Member
FFBE is my main Gacha game. I play this and Brave Frontier very casually.
Fire Emblem Heroes is the only other one i play currently. The lack of content doesn't bother me because i enjoy leveling up more characters, i have a very diverse roster of 3* and 4* Level 40's. Also with Skill Inheritance i'm grinding SP on my top characters to add more/better skills to them.
Other gachas I have played:
Mobius FF: boring, grindy gameplay with a lot of inventory management. Plus bad business practices like content gated behind paywalls. I will admit that the multiplayer was fun and probably the most well-executed of any gacha game i've played.
Sword Art Online: very grindy, shitty 5* rates, didn't play it long before uninstalling.
Fantasy War Tactics: easily has the most enjoyable gameplay of any gacha i've played. However, bad business practices like paywalls and Kompu Gachas (Korean game so not subject to Japan's consumer protection laws) drove me away.
Terra Battle: very grindy, grinding involved doing the same stages over and over again to get rare drops. Grinding was extremely boring as once you figured out the optimum moves to beat a stage it was just repeating those moves over and over again.
Brave Frontier: the game that got me started on gachas. Constant bugs like connection errors and game crashes drove me away, though i was becoming bored with the very simple gameplay anyway.
Brave Exvius - bad rates, but at least the 3* and 4* can be VERY useful for a lot of reasons, it's a very solid game and has a fantastic story. It's the best of the FF gacha easily.
Fire Emblem Heroes - it has the potential to be the best gacha ever made, but the IV and progression system are ATROCIOUS, it's definetly a deal breaker and I can't take it seriously yet.
DBZ Dokkan - the grind is on another level, it's borderline insane even, but it's very fun anyway.
ActStriker
Member
PAD - I'm a little burnt out right now, just logging in
FE Heroes - Also a little burnt out; Arena is meh
Disney Tsum Tsum - GF got me into this game, addicting af
KH Union Cross - Redownloaded it because GF+friends were playing it. It's still mediocre
FE Heroes - Also a little burnt out; Arena is meh
Disney Tsum Tsum - GF got me into this game, addicting af
KH Union Cross - Redownloaded it because GF+friends were playing it. It's still mediocre
Lights and Waves
Member
I completely stopped playing Fire Emblem on iPhone. It's such a gimped version of the 3DS games. It just wasn't fun. Felt like I was going through the motions.
Record Keeper is truly a game changer. This game deserves so much more love.
Record Keeper is truly a game changer. This game deserves so much more love.
Star Falcon
Member
I tried DBZ, Brave Exvius and Fire Emblem but uninstalled all of them after an hour. So just Record Keeper, which is probably healthy i keep it to one!
witchedwiz
Member
Dragon blaze, running rob on the tablet when i' at work, dungeon on tablet at home
Soccer spirits on hiatus... Too grindy, though my team is... Very good
Fantasy war tactics on hiatus till season 2
Lights just daily login.. The nerf of summoner scroll drop rate Made me disillusioned
Ffbe low maintenance, almost 24/7 macroing tmr.. Terrible gacha rates
Ffrk just started
Pad i was a veteran, but the game started to feel like a drag..
I guess That's that?
Starwolf_UK
Member
Used to play. Warning, rant ahead.
Mobius FF: Everything takes about 10 years to do. Too much of a grind on my time. I was out before the Tidus scandal let alone the more recent scandals of the game going down for extended periods with no explanation, players being locked out of accounts for having certain items, leader boards full of cheaters, let's mess up the power curve and difficulty by releasing some stuff way before Japan etc...true FFRK has had it's fair share of issues but it feels like Mobius is wasted potential (especially with how well it seemed to start out...time grind aside) and shouldn't companies know how to run gacha well by now?
FF Brave Exvius: Another grind. Mogcakes were what made me decide, fuck it I'm done which was the same time I quit Mobius. So basically before Lightning was even released. Story battles felt pointlessly easy and the other stuff was arbitrary in difficulty but that is kind of a general gacha problem to be honest.
FE Heroes: Having to delete some file and log back into my Nintendo account every single time I wanted to play else I'd get some error message was a real chore. It also didn't help that it lacks a lot of the things I actually like from Fire Emblem. The lack of content is also concerning given DeNAs involvement. Though maybe that is the game not having abilities to equip (or at least not when I played) so daily dungeons are only EXP. I suppose there was a 2 week rotating challenge thing too.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
I'm a Day One FFRK player (OG Warrior says hi), but I also play two others.
I'm a casual Fire Emblem: Heroes player, mostly because the content isn't there yet and some things are an inexorable grind; I also think the stat randomization is a joke too. Like FFRK, I don't sink much time into it. It's my least played game, and it'd be the first one I'd drop if I felt a time crunch.
I played Mobius for a couple weeks, but it was so slow. Sadly, I kinda liked the story, or at least I was curious to see where it was going, but it felt like a pared-down console experience with a gacha tacked onto it. By the time the Tidus fiasco rolled around, I was long gone.
I also play FF: Brave Exvius, and that's probably my main game. At this point, my main enjoyment comes from playing through the story and difficult trial content. I run through the daily tasks, which takes about 5 minutes per day, and then generally let it sit. I've had awfully good luck (and yeah, I realize the rates are completely terrible), but I'd be lying if I said the game wasn't losing some appeal.
If I had to qualify things, I'd say:
(1) FFRK is consistently good, but very samey; FFBE is occasionally awesome, but the lows are worse; and FEH is unrealized potential that may never be realized.
(2) FFRK is fair and truly respects players' time (as well as tugs on nostalgia with touches like the anniversary and special messages from developers). FEH is fair and transparent. FFBE isn't fair, nor does it respect players' time -- but it's made some improvements.
(3) For story/narrative, FFBE >>>>>>> FFRK (yes, seriously, it's better than Fire Emblem, at least so far) > FEH (such wasted potential).