Nearing the end of chapter 3 and the only boss that trashed me has been Yojimbo. I usually find a good spot with easy monsters / high exp and equip the lure bracer to make up for all the no encounter I've done. Actually, this is exactly what I did in Bravely Default.
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Nearing the end of chapter 3 and the only boss that trashed me has been Yojimbo. I usually find a good spot with easy monsters / high exp and equip the lure bracer to make up for all the no encounter I've done. Actually, this is exactly what I did in Bravely Default.
Well you don't have to visit every location every chapter, but you should, because there's something happening in most of them. And almost all of the (non-optional) locations are in there. The ones that aren't are replaced by new places.
The point is, it takes an entire game to get from one end of the world to the other in X but you walk from one end of the same world to the other multiple times in X-2.
It's not that bad, the worst part of X2 has been all the awkward mini games that leave you saying wtf were they thinking?
Man it's going to be weird playing X-2 again. I remember the overall plot but I don't really remember the small details. Almost done with X. Currently inside
Sin before the Seymour fight
Don't think I'll be going for the Platinum in X-2. I don't want to look at a guide every minute of every hour I play X-2 which is what I'll have to do if I want to 100% it.
Is this the ultimate dungeon? I'll probably get there by Friday. How should I prepare myself?
birthbysleep
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Interesting that X-2 has multiple visual works cutscenes where as all the future FF sequels/spinoffs only did beginning and end.
hipsterpants
Member
Jesus Christ 1 core spheres are total bullshit. Got 4 of them against Shinra and stood no chance even using perfect echo bonuses. Time to restart.
santeesioux
Member
I have a question, should i get the Limited Edition now while it's still in stock, or wait for the regular version to go down in price because i want this, but don't know when i'll get to it. I've already played both and X is one of my favorite games, as well as favorite FF, but i have a huge backlog with some other jrpgs.
Oh who am i kidding, i'll replay these before i get to those.
Oh who am i kidding, i'll replay these before i get to those.
SoraanTribal
Member
Well, I've gotten everyone's Ultimate Weapon except Wakkas. Basically, what's how I always play FFX, lol. Unfortunately, I know how OP Wakka's Reels + Ultimate Weapon are, but I never get them because I don't have fun with blitzball. Not that I find dodging lightning fun or anything like that, but that only took like 20-30 mins. I ended up dodging 438 bolts because I was afraid to stop (and didn't count). xD
Thinking about it... In theory, I like how they did the ultimate weapons in this game. Doing some minigames or quests to get items to upgrade ultimate weapons is a decent idea. Unfortunately, their execution was absolute shit for most of the characters. Yuna's path to get ultimate weapon is probably the best one - it is something that furthered her as a character (in terms of battle - getting Anima, Yojimbo, and the Magus Sisters and then fighting with them), and wasn't annoying. Rikku's path was decent... I mean, it was kind of boring running all over the desert, but I actually enjoyed the cactuar minigame, and it was kind of cute (like the descriptions of each one). Kimahri's isn't as bad as most people say. Yeah, it can be frustrating, but after a few tries, it becomes pretty easy to know the right path. Auron's is just incredibly boring... it's not hard to capture monsters from 10 areas, but it's just... ugh. Boring. Tidus' chocobo minigame is a cluster fuck of awfulness. It's just all based on your luck - there's almost no real skill involved. If you get lucky and the first 5-6 balloons are on your side at the beginning, you'll pretty much win (or have a far better chance). You need to get lucky in the birds attacking the rider some as well. Honestly, Lulu's isn't even that hard. It's just boring and tedious as fuck. It's one of those minigames where as you are doing it, you're thinking "what the fuck am I doing with my life?" And Wakka's.... uhh... If you like blitzball, I guess it's alright, but I don't, so I think it sucks.
I think I'm just gonna beat FFX now and move on to some other game. I had a feeling I would not want to do the extra bosses or worry about farming materials to customize the best gear. I absolutely love the base/main story of FFX, but the end game is just too much of a grind for me to enjoy it.
Thinking about it... In theory, I like how they did the ultimate weapons in this game. Doing some minigames or quests to get items to upgrade ultimate weapons is a decent idea. Unfortunately, their execution was absolute shit for most of the characters. Yuna's path to get ultimate weapon is probably the best one - it is something that furthered her as a character (in terms of battle - getting Anima, Yojimbo, and the Magus Sisters and then fighting with them), and wasn't annoying. Rikku's path was decent... I mean, it was kind of boring running all over the desert, but I actually enjoyed the cactuar minigame, and it was kind of cute (like the descriptions of each one). Kimahri's isn't as bad as most people say. Yeah, it can be frustrating, but after a few tries, it becomes pretty easy to know the right path. Auron's is just incredibly boring... it's not hard to capture monsters from 10 areas, but it's just... ugh. Boring. Tidus' chocobo minigame is a cluster fuck of awfulness. It's just all based on your luck - there's almost no real skill involved. If you get lucky and the first 5-6 balloons are on your side at the beginning, you'll pretty much win (or have a far better chance). You need to get lucky in the birds attacking the rider some as well. Honestly, Lulu's isn't even that hard. It's just boring and tedious as fuck. It's one of those minigames where as you are doing it, you're thinking "what the fuck am I doing with my life?" And Wakka's.... uhh... If you like blitzball, I guess it's alright, but I don't, so I think it sucks.
I think I'm just gonna beat FFX now and move on to some other game. I had a feeling I would not want to do the extra bosses or worry about farming materials to customize the best gear. I absolutely love the base/main story of FFX, but the end game is just too much of a grind for me to enjoy it.
TheSlySoul
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You have to do it to get a trophy. It is really easy though. You can pick their dress and they will automatically fight for you. I accidently beat a boss using all creatures.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, I have to agree with you. The side quests range from ugh to ZZZ. The main game is fun and worth playing, but 100% it is quite boring and only if you have nothing else to do.
X-2 my main problem is since you are limited to three characters, it took out any real strategy in the main game. I can mash x to win. It also does not help the story is even worse than FFX. In X, I wanted to see Yuna achieve her goal. X-2, I do not care. Tidus is a twat, why do you want him back? It is a shame because the mechanics are in place for a better game, like Sonic Heroes.
SoraanTribal
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As much as I love FFX-2's battle system (one of the best in the series), I feel like they didn't really utilize it as much as they could have. More challenging battles would have gone a long way to making that battle system really shine (more so than it already does). My main problem with FFX-2 is how easy it is to lose 0.2% and then be fucked on getting the best ending.
TheSlySoul
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Tell me about it. I was following a guide and missed 1% somehow. I really do not want to restart, so I am going to do two play throughs: one al bhed, dress spheres, and fiend tales. The other a full 100%. The worst game to 100% I played in a long time. Also, yeah, if the main content was the curve of sidequests, then I would agree. But the main game is easy as cheese.As much as I love FFX-2's battle system (one of the best in the series), I feel like they didn't really utilize it as much as they could have. More challenging battles would have gone a long way to making that battle system really shine (more so than it already does). My main problem with FFX-2 is how easy it is to lose 0.2% and then be fucked on getting the best ending.
You know it's coming when he puts his index finger to his face and charges. Have someone use a Mega-Potion or everyone use Hi-Potions asap, they'll use it after he does the attack.
The MP drop from Zanmato makes this one of the fights where I'd recommend using an Alchemist to heal. Just use a regular Mega-Potion with Items Lv.2, not Stash.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the number of party members, especially since there is a class system. Enemies in this game just aren't dangerous enough.
Oh no I haven't finished catching 10 of everything yet. I have 10 of 5 areas I think. I guess I'll go ahead and finish that up cause I think my 3 characters are strong enough to easily catch fiends in all areas. Plus this'll raise the damage karma does to me now then too.
Thanks!
Stop saying Sonic Heroes.
TheSlySoul
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You just want to deny the simularities...
TheSlySoul
Member
3 pals want to stop an evil man from destroying the world with the power of friendship/love. I do not see the concept that different. Both have cheesy pop music and colors. The environments are recycled each chapter/story. Both inspire from the classics of their franchise, etc.
Vincent Alexander
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Just finished Mt. Gagazet in FFX. I'm excited for some of the scenes coming up, mostly because I hate when movies/TV shows/books/anything pulls the shit they do
. And yet it never bothered me in this game. I'm not sure why. It actually didn't occur to me until tonight how much
idea goes against my normal taste. In most cases, I'd flip a table and bail. Time for some inner reflection, as well as a good examination of FFX and how they pull it of well enough for me to hardly even notice.
with Tidus, and who he is/where he comes from
the dream Zanarkand and Tidus
It's probably because they've been building up to it the entire game and yet never let you know that's what they were doing.
I think that him being in a totally 'new' world does a lot for the narrative. He learns about everything incrementally, and it doesn't seem too awkward to the viewer, avoiding data logs and text dumps for background info like some other RPGs.
Both star characters and are played with buttons. Both have graphics made of polygons and come printed on game discs. You may be on to something.
- Put Brother at MF.
- Receive ball and swim around until the whole team is chasing you.
- Pass to a wide open Tidus.
- Goal.
That too. It's a great way to teach us about Spira.
But as far as his Zanarkand goes, in every flashback he has there is something wrong. Someone who shouldn't be there, someone the player may not even consciously notice. Just that small thing puts the idea that Zanarkand is not all Tidus remembers it to be into the player's head.
It was really masterfully done.
- Put Brother at MF.
- Receive ball and swim around until the whole team is chasing you.
- Pass to a wide open Tidus.
- Goal.
Hahaha. That's exactly what I am doing. He's so fast.
legacyzero
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Dat sending
SoraanTribal
Member
Yeah, I would agree with these comments. Honestly, the big reveal is so weird when you think about it, but I think it's actually done fairly well. And it makes sense in the grand scheme of the world. I actually think Spira is one of FF's best developed worlds. The way the game introduces you to the lore and history of Spira is pretty fantastic. And without a single datalog entry, gasp!
ghostlyspice
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I didn't have any problems because of the
petrify
poison
But I just
spammed haste and slow and eventually got it down.
Keep Rikku out of the party, then switch her in the cure Petrify/Poison with Al Bhed Potions, then get her out again so she doesn't end up the one afflicted.
Use Slow and Darkness.
SoulUnison
Banned
Wait, so the Last Mission roguelike tower doesn't use the same battle system as X-2?
That kills some of my desire to get to it... But I'm only maybe a third of the way through X, so I'll just enjoy the ride.
That kills some of my desire to get to it... But I'm only maybe a third of the way through X, so I'll just enjoy the ride.
Yes, they're both similarly linear in terms of where you can go. But X is less linear in terms of what you can do at any given time. I think that's a big difference (and not necessarily a statement on which is better than the other).
In XIII, I don't remember doing much besides progressing through the story, until pretty far into the game (and even then, only in limited areas). In X, you can play it straight, grind sphere levels, play blitzball, do the celestial weapon mini-games, backtrack for Jecht spheres, capture monsters, talk to NPCs in various areas/towns at different times in the game, explore parts of towns/areas not of paramount importance, etc.