cj_iwakura
Member
So the new Crystarium. If I'm seeing this right, all roles are in the same plane, and you just choose which to upgrade at each upgrade point?
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FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 |OT| Change the Future
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Zoe
Member
Seraphinianus
Banned
I definitely do NOT play FF for story, ever. Gameplay only please.
I guess it's a 9 if I don't take any story into account? The demo makes it seem like it.
No. The gameplay and level design still has flaws.
cj_iwakura
Member
I genuinely enjoyed XIII's plot, but XIII-2 looks like it set out to utterly ruin any semblance of decency it had.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I would say a smart man wouldn't bet on any given FF having a good story in this day and age. But FF has occasionally had wonderful stories, and they probably will again at some point in the future..... just not from the XIII team (and I wouldn't expect great intelligence from Versus either... just a hunch).
Bring back Matsuno! Hell, even Masato Kato pulled off some really decent RPG plots... bring him to FF!
Versus has Nojima, so at least there's some hope there...
But dear lord do they need to ditch Watanabe.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Didn't Nojima help with the XIII scenario...?
But actually the overall XIII scenario was great... It was the actual writing and specific plot details which were awful, and that was Watanabe's job...
Seraphinianus
Banned
I'll have to see what those are. I'm pretty lenient on FF games. My bar for this one is "at least better than XIII."
I think 6 is the only one to have a story I genuinely enjoyed from start to finish.
I don't think they'll top that. They try too damn hard nowadays and focus so much on fashion and stylishness and weird nouns that you need a separate dictionary for to translate. XII and XIII may as well be in some dead language. I'm loving Sera's "shrug" animation in the demo (I know, she's just feeling the rain) because everyone in XIII-2 so far is blabbing some nonsense.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I think the Shootie HG tracks are hilarious. Perhaps it's because I'm used to blasting some of the DMC soundtracks during my commute or something. I don't really mind the style at all. :lolI'm not worried about the ShootieHG tracks... They're kinda bro-ey and don't strike me as something that would be cut for offending western sensibilities (they are likely to anger the FF nerds more than the masses, actually)
And those Joelle tracks.... They do not sound awkward and are very beautiful. If they get cut, someone at Square Enix needs their head checked.Same with the New Bodhum tracks..She probably got replaced with Leona Lewis. :/
I wonder if Aimee Blackschleger would know anything about Invisible Invaders at all?
To be honest, I'm a tad worried about TIME AND SPACE here, but you don't really spend extraordinarily long on the Historia Crux Menu unless you're looking at menu options like the Fragments and stuff, so that might not get the axe either. Outside of that bit, the vocals are pretty subtle.
To be fair... FFXIII does employ quite a bit of Latin. :lol
13's scenario is all Toriyama and Watanabe.
Nojima is behind the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythos.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I can agree with that.
I see where you're coming from. All the try-hard style and fantasy jargon.
But I don't mind that stuff... I think that within that framework, they could make a genuine story masterpiece still.... but they have the wrong people in charge of the writing.
Basically... someone on this planet could create something amazing even with the modern FF trappings of hairspray and Sun Crist/Fal'Cie gobbledeegook... but I'm not sure if those people are currently working at Square Enix...
Ok... not bad. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on Versus....
I just would not be surprised if it turns out to be empty posturing and indecipherable, incoherent nonsense, because that's par for the FF course these days. I hope to be proven wrong....
I am too..... and it would be a damn shame. I love how the pop vocals come out of nowhere, minutes into a very non-pop song. The actual "time and space" lyrics are alllllmost "that kind of awkward", but as you say, it's a tiny thing. Hopefully it slips by.
Man... I wish FF was defining the new zeitgeist and telling us what the new hot sound is, rather than pre-emptively censoring themselves in order to appease our apparently "made-up western minds". :/
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Something that annoyed me in the demo was that you needed to be pressed right up against something to be able to jump over it. If you jumped a bit too early, you didn't jump high enough. Was it like this in XIII too (only played the demo of that, and that was a good while ago)?
Zoe
Member
Jumping could only happen on action marks in the first game.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Seraphinianus
Banned
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
Tried the demo and the missing lyrics is annoying. So is the weird muffled rap for Worlds Collide... It's like one of those lousy programs that 'remove vocals' by just muffling stuff...
Also, shopaholic me bought the two DLC costumes...Don't be like me...They look really awful and out of place.
Also, shopaholic me bought the two DLC costumes...Don't be like me...They look really awful and out of place.
jimmypython
Member
Hi all, any ideas what is the best way to put money on Japanese PSN account? i think i have to do so for the upcoming story DLCs, since i've imported the game and don't want to buy a NA version just for DLC.....
PS. it seems i cannot use foreign country issued credit card.....
PS. it seems i cannot use foreign country issued credit card.....
PSN cards are your best bet. I and several other J-Gaffers be happy to get them for people as they can be bought in any convenience store here in Tokyo. Send me a PM; if you'll Paypal me the value, I'll get you the card.
R_thanatos
Member
That's honnextly the only reason they did this.. the jumping in FF13 was boring but wasn't borken ..heck i didn't care about it .
jimmypython
Member
oh thanks a lot. i'll do it after they announce the DLCs.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I said gosh darn at these mk2 reviews. Lots of dislike for the narrative, and I see some of it for the lack of balancing. Edit: Oh, yikes, don't pass this through a translator or read some of them if you don't want to be spoiled on the story!
And it's funny that you say that because I attribute that kind of "trendy" feeling to Atlus now. Vocal songs, rap, classical remixes and rock are very common across those soundtracks and I don't really see people complaining about it. I find it odd that SE would see the same things that Atlus uses for games across all regions as problematic or not appealing to westerners. Edit: I thought SE was on a roll when it came to Nier and FFXIII's soundtracks, at least. If the theme is truly censored in the retail English version, then I don't know what to say to that...
It's actually really catchy. I disliked it at first, but as I listened to it more, I found that it's a very nice addition to the song. It makes it flow and progress a lot better than it would if it were only instrumental.
And it's funny that you say that because I attribute that kind of "trendy" feeling to Atlus now. Vocal songs, rap, classical remixes and rock are very common across those soundtracks and I don't really see people complaining about it. I find it odd that SE would see the same things that Atlus uses for games across all regions as problematic or not appealing to westerners. Edit: I thought SE was on a roll when it came to Nier and FFXIII's soundtracks, at least. If the theme is truly censored in the retail English version, then I don't know what to say to that...
No problem. Please give me positive feedback on the buy/sell/trade thread in the Community section, of course!
RPGCrazied
Member
I only owe $10 now. I plopped $100 down on my CE guide and CE game today. They were gift cards from Christmas. I just had to get the 4 disc soundtrack. The artbook seems kinda meh, but anyway. The CE guide is sexy as hell. I have the XIII one. High quality stuff.
I was deciding on whether or not to get the CE stuff, but the demo sold me on it. So the story isn't very good. I liked XIII, but I'm easily amused. The only thing I don't like is the cliffhanger ending people talk about, but surely one of those upcoming DLC will have a real ending. Shame I have to pay more $$$ to see the real ending, but whatever.
I have a feeling I'm going to buy all DLC for this game too.
I just had to get the 4 disc soundtrack. The artbook seems kinda meh, but anyway. The CE guide is sexy as hell. I have the XIII one. High quality stuff.I was deciding on whether or not to get the CE stuff, but the demo sold me on it. So the story isn't very good. I liked XIII, but I'm easily amused. The only thing I don't like is the cliffhanger ending people talk about, but surely one of those upcoming DLC will have a real ending. Shame I have to pay more $$$ to see the real ending, but whatever.
I have a feeling I'm going to buy all DLC for this game too.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
If they're actually going to do this, I'll have to laugh at their audacity.
I have to pay my LE off too. Might do that next week since I have some Christmas money to spend. I guess I'll be joining PAL-GAF when this is released since I play console games only on weekends (ah, nah, I'll find some way to play this on launch day).
RPGCrazied
Member
Have they even talked more about DLC, other than, "we are doing it?" I guess they are going to wait for it to be released here first. Still, no word from SE yet on the details.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Demo kinda interested me, the Pokemon element was interesting at least. Plot seems to be absolutely fucking incomprehensible, but then I couldnt force myself to play FF13 beyond the first quarter or probably less.
Was kinda skirting looking into it, but if this really does have a DLC Ending, fuck me. Square deserve this franchise to fucking die for all their mis-steps.
Was kinda skirting looking into it, but if this really does have a DLC Ending, fuck me. Square deserve this franchise to fucking die for all their mis-steps.
Zoe
Member
That's a baseless rumor.
insmileoutblood
Member
I miss the cock-swaggery of previous FF games.
Could they not have thrown in some nifty limit breaks?
Could they not have thrown in some nifty limit breaks?
R_thanatos
Member
Not really....Why did you expect enough of a plot in a demo anyway ?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
So FF13 will be the 3-game project all by its widely unloved self and drag the brand down further. Or another example of DLC gone too far. Win win.
I didn't expect some grand example slice of storytelling in the demo, but it threw enough nonsense words at me with an absolutely abstract setup of preppy young man with plastic swords, character from the previous game and comedy relief moogle amongst talk of paradox effects, referring to a giant boss beastie as a paradox, collecting pokemon, and then solving some machine with simplistic maze-route puzzlery followed by QTE's (Asura demo already gave me 1000% of my weekly intake allowance of them) that the whole thing felt like a bad trip.
Is this game a sort of "TRY EVERYTHING!!!!!" response to critical reception?
I didn't expect some grand example slice of storytelling in the demo, but it threw enough nonsense words at me with an absolutely abstract setup of preppy young man with plastic swords, character from the previous game and comedy relief moogle amongst talk of paradox effects, referring to a giant boss beastie as a paradox, collecting pokemon, and then solving some machine with simplistic maze-route puzzlery followed by QTE's (Asura demo already gave me 1000% of my weekly intake allowance of them) that the whole thing felt like a bad trip.
Is this game a sort of "TRY EVERYTHING!!!!!" response to critical reception?
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
hahahaha
The Xtortionist
Member
With no sequel...they're gonna a huge fucking DLC pack to fix that mess of an ending.
Rahxephon91
Banned
I'll take a XIII-3 as long as they keep improving the world and graphics. Also get rid of monsters and have actual party members. I don't care what the gaming community wants and likes anyway. They suck and can have their lame FF7 remake.
XIII-3 will only have one playable character. No other party members and no other monsters. Just one character!
Rahxephon91
Banned
That's fine. Worked for Vagrant Story and Parasite Eve.
XIII-3 will be a rom hack of Final Fantasy.
RPGCrazied
Member
You still doing avatars Kagari?