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FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 |OT| Change the Future
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toastyToast
Member
Baller OP.
I'm still reserved. I know that the story will make me want to drag a rake against my face but it might be good fun so... yeah
Waiting for some non-Japanese reviews (no racist)
I'm still reserved. I know that the story will make me want to drag a rake against my face but it might be good fun so... yeah
Waiting for some non-Japanese reviews (no racist)
I was so pumped when I heard that it was inspired in part by Okinawa, which I had been to many times before playing this game (I was very LTTP on this one).
It was a pleasant surprise to see that Tidus and Yuna were named for Okinawan words (tīda means the sun and yūna a kind of hibiscus flower) and that Wakka's name means 'water' in Ainu.
(Specifically, IIRC, clean, drinkable water. Japan's northernmost city, Wakkanai, is evidently named for a river of such water.)
And then they followed up on that with the names of the ultimate weapons for some of them: Tidus' weapon refers to the sun, and Wakka's have the Mercury Crest and Mercury Sigil. In Japanese, Mercury is the 'water planet'. I wonder what percentage of the fans picked up on that. Surely very few. ^_^;
Oh really! Is that why Tidus is pronounced "tea-dus" in Dissidia? I'd always wondered as I'd simply assumed the name was derived from the word "tide"...that makes much more sense now.
Electivirus
Member
More traditional sidequests makes me a happy panda. While those missions in XIII were lots of fun and quite challenging, they couldn't quite replace getting trapped at the casino for hours on end~
And it being more open-ended should result in me spending even more time with it than I did with XIII, despite the main story apparently being shorter. Hyyyyype
And it being more open-ended should result in me spending even more time with it than I did with XIII, despite the main story apparently being shorter. Hyyyyype
Tizoc
Member
Aha, so that's what the Wide and other 2 formation options are for. Cool.
It's a terrible codec. The worst part is when developers make one version and use it on all platforms including PC :/
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Yes, I know. I think the problem is disc-space no? Anyway I've seen it used almost in every game, but I'm happy that my bluray FFXIII-2 will not make use of it
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
For the saga to survive? I'm actually here hoping, as a fan of it, that all the next main episodes from now on will be multiplatform. Hell, even for Versus I would be glad.
Money? MS fronted the bill for all the advertising in the west... which is why all the ads were 360 only... there was only a 360 console bundle outside of Japan, etc.
RPGCrazied
Member
The PS3 version doesn't use BINK does it? It's not a bad codec until you see it on bigger screens, then you can notice the pixalation in them.
It was always supposed to be pronounced "tea". I think Westerners pronounce it "tie" because of the widespread belief that it refers to the word "tide" (which is fair considering Nomura's use of weather names), and general association with the name Titus. I think the kana literally reads "tee da" though. I remember back when it was just screenshots it was spelled Tida (reflecting the Okinawan word). I've always wondered if they changed the official Romanji to be Tidus because "us" is a masculine ending and "a" feminine ending in Western languages (specifically Latin, but it applies to names in English too).
No, it does not.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Damn I'm jones'ing for a good Final Fantasy game. Winter time/school break always reminds me of playing through a Final Fantasy game. Just seeing this thread gets me excited and makes me want to do a FFV Advance run through again.
... I really hope this game can capture the excitement that the old schools games had! Exploration, adventure, great battle system, and fun characters. (I'm nooot feeling great that XIII-2 will be able to hit on that last one from what I've seen so far)
... I really hope this game can capture the excitement that the old schools games had! Exploration, adventure, great battle system, and fun characters. (I'm nooot feeling great that XIII-2 will be able to hit on that last one from what I've seen so far)
I know this game's more open and has multiple paths and all the good stuff.
Still, I'm sure that as a sequel to XIII, it will retain some of the linearity that comes from trying to be overly cinematic.
Two questions, and no I'm not trolling; I've just not really heard either way:
1) Are there towns? (Didn't bug me much in XIII, but this seems like it would've been the most obvious fix)
2) Is there an overworld? I miss FF overworlds.
Loved XIII for what it was trying to be, but I'm hoping this one brings back a heavy dose of RPGness.
Still, I'm sure that as a sequel to XIII, it will retain some of the linearity that comes from trying to be overly cinematic.
Two questions, and no I'm not trolling; I've just not really heard either way:
1) Are there towns? (Didn't bug me much in XIII, but this seems like it would've been the most obvious fix)
2) Is there an overworld? I miss FF overworlds.
Loved XIII for what it was trying to be, but I'm hoping this one brings back a heavy dose of RPGness.
1) Yes, there are town locations.
2) No overworld/worldmap. You travel to different locations using the time gate.
Thanks. Seems like it's taking the more modern RPG approach to getting around to different locations. That's fine; cuts back on travel time, plus the risk of a non-inspired map makes it not worth the trouble.
charlequin
Banned
Westerners pronounce it that way because that's how the letters T-I-D-U-S are pronounced in English.
Definitely. For all the crap Tidus got in the Western market already, imagine how much more it would have been if he'd had a girlish-sounding name.
Westerners pronounce it that way because that's how the letters T-I-D-U-S are pronounced in English.
Definitely. For all the crap Tidus got in the Western market already, imagine how much more it would have been if he'd had a girlish-sounding name.
It doesn't have to be pronounced that way. The letter I has at least 4 phonemes. I agree it's more natural though based on the way Anglicised Latin words are pronounced. And yeah, I definitely see why they change the ending.
charlequin
Banned
But it is. Words that start with "Ti" in English either pronounce it as in "Tide" or as in "Tits." The only word I can come up with that pronounces it the way his name works in Japanese is "tiki," which is a straight-up loan word. If they wanted it to be pronounced the same way they needed to go with "Tedus" or something.
badcrumble
Member
I know FFX won't get re-localized, but I'd LOVE it if they could fix it so you can't name Tidus anymore and people actually say his goddamn name.
Sorry but unsurprised to learn that the 360 version will be inferior again.
Sorry but unsurprised to learn that the 360 version will be inferior again.
I always pronounced it Tide-us myself. I think it sounds better than Tee-dus, and it just made sense considering the image of him coming out the water and all. In fact, I never even considered Tee-dus being an option until I noticed that's what the voice actors call him in the bonus DVD that came with the game.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Are you shitting me, Square?
edit: Oh, I don't have to worry about this if I buy the PS3-version! Thank God.
AngelSoldier
Banned
If anybodies interested I have a link to the "Episode i Novella" completely and (Accurately, Japanese is my first language after all) translated. Just PM me for link or I *think* I can post it here ? Until I get permission from a mod, just pm me.
Same, I've always called him Tie-dus. I first heard the name pronounced Tee-dus in Kingdom Hearts,
In Kingdom Hearts 2, Selphie calls him Tie-dus, however.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Yeah, it was always supposed to be this way. They fucked up in KH2 when they said "tie-dus".
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
I don't understand why people say the second half of XIII when you run around on Gran Pulse is any different than the rest of the game. The very first section you get on Gran Pulse is a Hub World, and everything else that is connected to it is another series of linear tunnels. It's the same shit with a large circular opening that connects the tunnels. It really didn't feel any more "open" than the rest of the game.
I was totally okay with XIII giving me the guided experience, hell every Final Fantasy game is a guided experience with the illusion of exploration. I'm not looking for Skyrim out of this game, but if they just mask the idea that there is only ONE place to go to next and make me think that I'm in this vast world, that'd be great. I think Towns is a great way to achieve that goal. I'd really wish for a World Map to run around (PSX style) but that's cool if there isn't.
I guess they just need to actually give us a better chance to explore at our own pace before requiring us to move on. Make there be cool armor/magic whatever for going "out" of your way. This game has a lot of poetiental, I hope they execute well on the ideas. I'd love for this to be my prime gaming experience of 2012.
I called him "Tie-dus" until the first English trailer for FFX came out, which had his name pronounced as "Tee-dus."
Never occurred to me that confusion over the pronunciation of his name continued after that, but I guess it makes sense since they never do say his name out loud in FFX.
Never occurred to me that confusion over the pronunciation of his name continued after that, but I guess it makes sense since they never do say his name out loud in FFX.
Still not sure if I'll grab the PS3 or 360 version...my clear game save is from the PS3 and even though it doesn't seem to add that much,might as well stick to that I guess,even though I prefer achievements over trophies...
Both version will be virtually the same this time around right or is the PS3 the main platform again like XIII?
Both version will be virtually the same this time around right or is the PS3 the main platform again like XIII?
AngelSoldier
Banned
LolNo. PS3 is the way to go again. Better Audio/Video.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Some good and bad news.
Good news: I've got a picture of the 360 box now.
Bad news: Square has opted to use Bink Video AGAIN.
Now that I have a PS3 I don't have to deal with the terrible pixelated CG movies, thanks god.
360 uses Bink for video, and that's horrible, I know first hand thanks to XIII.
Do yourself a favor and go with the PS3 version.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, it's also because the vowel starts off by coming off of a voiceless alveolar plosive /t/ in one onset, and moves into a voiced alveolar plosive /d/ in another onset, causing the vowel itself to become voiced (though it isn't as easy as that when you're talking Optimality Theory, but whatever, I'll stick to crazy Chomskian logic for now). Japanese doesn't work like English because a lot of the kana essentially work into CV or V components called morae. So テ (te) +[ィ (i) + ー(long vowel marker)] = /tī/ in that language... but it doesn't work like that in English, really. That "changing the -a ending to -us" for English sounds like an interesting localization change to me, though. It makes sense.
Not to mention the game revolving around water a lot. That's mostly why I thought /taid^s/ was correct when I first played this with nearly zero knowledge of Japanese... They screwed up hard in KH2 when they called him /taid^s/, lol.
Oh jeez, I was 13 when FFX was released. :O
I wonder if that's why that one place in Type-0 that you pointed out looks like it's straight out of FFX?Aeana said:
The Last Remnant's areas looked great too, especially on PC.
Yeah, I'd never heard his name pronounced out loud until I watched a friend play through Dissidia, so that was a good 8 years or so of being wrong, haha!
Back on topic, I'm wondering if my save file from an English-language Asian version of FFXIII will be compatible with a different region XIII-2 for the purposes of those little bonuses for clearing the game. Also, do we know yet what the preorder costumes for Serah & Noel look like yet?
FateBreaker
Member
Source?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q23HfSvkrCc&feature=related
A humorous video where some dude changes the subtitles of the FFXIII-2 trailer to make parody. Its all in good fun, so I hope some users don't take offense to it.
A humorous video where some dude changes the subtitles of the FFXIII-2 trailer to make parody. Its all in good fun, so I hope some users don't take offense to it.
You folks who "mispronounced" Tidus' name don't have anything to feel guilty about -- "Tidus" isn't a word in any language and was made up for the English translation of the game, so there's no shame in assuming that it obeys the spelling rules for Anglo-Saxon English words.
Had they called him Tida, English speakers would have said it correctly, but it would have sounded very feminine; analogous to Lisa, Mina, Gina, etc. (and FF7's Tifa, come to think of it).
Dark Schala, on the Okinawan island where I'd spent some time before playing this game, "the sun" is tidán (n at the end, and strong stress on the second syllable), so that's what I called the protagonist. That word sounds a lot more like a man's name; does it to you?
Had they called him Tida, English speakers would have said it correctly, but it would have sounded very feminine; analogous to Lisa, Mina, Gina, etc. (and FF7's Tifa, come to think of it).
Dark Schala, on the Okinawan island where I'd spent some time before playing this game, "the sun" is tidán (n at the end, and strong stress on the second syllable), so that's what I called the protagonist. That word sounds a lot more like a man's name; does it to you?
xion4360
Member
Yes. He was shown in the last Jump scan.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Yuna in Japanese means moon right?
Tizoc
Member
Interesting >=3
Two 30sec TVCMs appear. if you're SPOILER sensitive, I say don't watch, specially the PS3 one, it's cutscene heavy, 360 one is all gameplay and old cutscenes we've seen.
enjoy! >.>
PS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=758rwOGddf8
360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnTpozJWSs
enjoy! >.>
PS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=758rwOGddf8
360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnTpozJWSs
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