I disagreeDoublethink said:The Cid in 8 is the worst Cid ever.
At least FFVIII Cid had personality/development.
I disagreeDoublethink said:The Cid in 8 is the worst Cid ever.
Dresden said:You guys are crazy. Rise was clearly the best girl, followed by.Naoto
The fact that he'll never go through Void Quest saddens me. THE MUSIC.Unknown Soldier said:BURN THE HERETIC! BURN HIM!! :lol
But at least he wasn't a fat, incompetent old man.:lolHimuro said:Cid in 8 has ideals and goals. Cid in 13 is like, what. Guy appears in the story for a total of five minutes. :lol
Regulus Tera said:Do you like JRPGs that give you freedom in how you tackle the story portions, the battling and character growth? Go finish Persona 4.
Do you like JRPGs that give you pretty visuals and a Hollywood-like experience? Play.Uncharted 2
Doublethink said:The Cid in 8 is the worst Cid ever.
Magnus said:With proper gambit setup in Final Fantasy XII, none of these things happen. The player is granted true agency in prioritizing targets, abilities and turns. This agency is lost in Final Fantasy XIII, and the true crime is, its missing for absolutely no reason at all
Doublethink said:The Cid in 8 is the worst Cid ever.
I have to disagree with you, Cid in XIII looks like a total douchebag. It's like the worst combination of effeminacy and dumb emo haircuts.Rpgmonkey said:Hey, VIII Cid had an awkward and inappropriate cheeriness about him that made him fun.
XIII Cid is one of my favorite Cid designs, but he doesn't really do anything.
hateradio said:I bout this game last year, played through the first boring ass ugly dungeon w/the red and purple ... never played it again.
Dresden said:I have to disagree with you, Cid in XIII looks like a total douchebag. It's like the worst combination of effeminacy and dumb emo haircuts.
Replace Cid with Hope and I'd agree. Shit, Yaag or whatever his name was had a weirder haircut than Cid. And Rygdea and Jihl handily outclass everyone else in the hair department anyway.Dresden said:I have to disagree with you, Cid in XIII looks like a total douchebag. It's like the worst combination of effeminacy and dumb emo haircuts.
God's Beard said:I think I stopped playing Persona 3 because Mitsuru wasn't in it.
cosmicblizzard said:Dude, this is the FF13 hate thread, not the P4 hate thread.
icarus-daedelus said:And Rygdea and Jihl handily outclass everyone else in the hair department anyway.
Tactics had the best Cid ever. Thunder God Cid. So broken he broke the game. If you wanted even a semblance of challenge you didn't use him. And he was a badass old man, to boot, and his son got burned alive! ;_;Ballistictiger said:FF7 had one of the best Cid ever since we are talking about Cid.
I'd recommend maxing out the level 4's, don't really have to bother with the side roles, assuming you have a good combination that works for you. Some accessories that could help a lot also, like Dash Shoes. Chapter 13's not impossible hard, but it's not a walk in the park, even with maxed Crystallium lv 9 and with a couple of ultimate weapons. I imagine it would be very challenging to just jump into it, especially if you had any problem whatsoever with the chapter 12 boss.Arjen said:So i just started Chapter 13, and i can go back toIs possible to finish the game or do i really need to level up my party first?gran pulse
Haven't had any big problems with bosses so far btw.
Cep said:See, this is the sort of close-mindedness that I cannot stand.
Just because we are hating on FF13 does not mean that we are too busy to hate on other games.
Plenty of hate to go around.
Hell, I will give it a go: I find Strange Journey to be sort of boring.
Arjen said:So i just started Chapter 13, and i can go back toIs possible to finish the game or do i really need to level up my party first?gran pulse
Haven't had any big problems with bosses so far btw.
Doublethink said:Speaking of Jihl:
I had no clue she died in that scene. It was hours after when I checked the datalog, read that entry and found out she died:lol
Doublethink said:Speaking of Jihl:
I had no clue she died in that scene. It was hours after when I checked the datalog, read that entry and found out she died:lol
Doublethink said:Speaking of Jihl:
I had no clue she died in that scene. It was hours after when I checked the datalog, read that entry and found out she died:lol
The whole game was like that for me. I was intoxicated by moments when the visuals, the character animations and the music came together, from early on in the game. Staring at the art was pretty much "the gameplay" for the 25 hour intro tube. If there's one thing the game succeeds in, IMO, its the shiny surface detail.Magnus said:I got a weird joy out of letting the camera chill on Lightning (my leader) standing with allies in the middle of the Archlyte Steppe. The wind blows through her hair, she stands all proud and amazon-like, she's fucking gorgeous for a video game character, and the majesty of the Pride Lan...Pulsian landscape, coupled with a pretty amazing audio track just takes over.
It might have been one of the only beautiful moments in XIII for me. I could list so many others for the other eight FF games I've played.
Dresden said:Wait, she died?
I agree with this especially. Previous FFs have always had memorable setpieces, such as the Garden fight in VIII, the Nibelheilm segment in VII. XIII simply has no such impactful moments that stood out throughout the entire game. Every dramatic situation was a poorly executed cliche.Magnus said:It's amazing how criticisms of XIII make me greatly appreciate what previous entries did right. Loved XII's guest characters. I have yet to get to the point where one joins you in XII International, but having them totally controllable should be a boon too.
You don't like Pokemon in Antarctica with demons instead of Pikachu and overt religious themes in place of teh animu? For shame!Cep said:See, this is the sort of close-mindedness that I cannot stand.
Just because we are hating on FF13 does not mean that we are too busy to hate on other games.
Plenty of hate to go around.
Hell, I will give it a go: I find Strange Journey to be sort of boring.
We agree on all of the important stuff.Cep said:Agreed.
Oh man I completely forgot about that part. That was the second worst moment in the game, second only to "Moms are tough."Himuro said:That was sooo retarded.
CODE BLUE
CODE RED
CODE GREEN
CODE PURPLE
CODE YELLOW
No, desperate times require desperate actions. CODE WHITE!!!!
And I was just sitting there rolling on my bed in laughter.
Himuro said:That was sooo retarded.
CODE BLUE
CODE RED
CODE GREEN
CODE PURPLE
CODE YELLOW
No, desperate times require desperate actions. CODE WHITE!!!!
And I was just sitting there rolling on my bed in laughter.
There is a reason why he was called "Thunder God Cid"Dresden said:Tactics had the best Cid ever. Thunder God Cid. So broken he broke the game. If you wanted even a semblance of challenge you didn't use him. And he was a badass old man, to boot, and his son got burned alive! ;_;
Ramza totally stole his sword the moment he joined the party, though. Excalibur+Ultima wasn't exactly optimal, but it was fun.
I didn't say I hated it, I just said the first dungeon was ugly, and left me with zero motivation to go on.cosmicblizzard said:Dude, this is the FF13 hate thread, not the P4 hate thread.
Unknown Soldier said:Oh, FUCK. I forgot you need to patch all versions of FFXII to work with the HD Loader. Now I have to pull the hard drive out of my PS2 again and open my PC again. Augh!
Me neither, which almost makes that scene even funnier. OTOH "moms are tough" just kind of made me cringe because I know that they were 100% serious with it.Rpgmonkey said:That scene was great because I had no idea if I was supposed to take it seriously or laugh. :lol
He got one of the best lines in the game.
Well, at least we know she would've made for a lame boss fight. Although, given the bosses in this game, she probably would have turned into a robot first, or a robot that turns into a jet, or something else equally dumb and metallic.Vect said:JihlWHAT AN AWESOME WAYgot killed by a ruin spell... :/to die!
Mega Man's Electric Sheep said:I just arrived at chapter 11 and I'm getting kinda blahed on the game.....how many missions do I need to do before I'd be safe to move on..... without screwing myself over later by being too weak due to skipping too much?
Himuro said:That was sooo retarded.
CODE BLUE
CODE RED
CODE GREEN
CODE PURPLE
CODE YELLOW
No, desperate times require desperate actions. CODE WHITE!!!!
And I was just sitting there rolling on my bed in laughter.
BocoDragon said:It just took one Ruin.
MrDenny said:I hate how they handled all the side characters; Team Nora, Rygdea, Cid, Jihl, Yaag.
It seems like the team got lazy on their character development, and just incorporated them in the game just because they had to.
Overall, I'm really disappointed how they handle the side characters.-Team Nora shows up out of nowhere in chapter 12/13 and then just leave, "Oh, btw we're alive. Ok we'll be going now." Lame.
-Rygdea, iono he just seem to be there. Didn't even make an appearance at the end of the game after they hyped his takeover so much.
-Cid is fail. Poor character development. Dysley revives him, then 10 mins later he's dead because he tells rygdea to shoot him. Seriously?
-I didn't even know Jihl died, thought she was just injured. Had to read the datalog to learn about her death. Wasted potential.
-Yaag probably the most developed of the side characters, but still poor character development. "You l'cie must die" fast forward "I guess I was wrong all along"
Seemed so half-assed.