Final Fantasy XIII |OT2|
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brandonh83
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Trent Strong said:
dude everytime I see your icon I have to head over to Youtube and watch Tourettes Guy videos.
Fimbulvetr
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Majukun
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ULTROS! said:
worst game of this generation?yes
what is funny in walking on a corridor pressing a button now and then to activate doors or jump over an obstacle and so on,and battling,battling and battling again with an authomated battle system that let you only coose the formation and then press a button when the bar is full? ò_ò
i've played flash games that have a deeper gameplay..
it's not a rpg,it's not a platform,it's not an action,it's not even a damn videogame,it got a 10% of gameplay and a 90% of cutscenes and lifeless and not-interactive locations.
CrankyJay said:
because i'm perplexed.
and perplexed people ask questions about things that made them perplexed
Majukun
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DY_nasty said:
i know i should not ask but..what the hell bromango means ? ò_ò
DY_nasty said:
from my point of view,it's not for people who love to PLAY videogames
but as someone already said in this thread,it's legitimate that you could enjoy this game,even if i will never understand why
KuwabaraTheMan
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Majukun said:
The game has one of the most enjoyable combat systems ever created. It's not like exploration is the only way to play video games. By that logic, any sidescroll isn't fun because you can only move in one direction.
Crash Station
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Majukun said:
You know you can be disappointed by something without saying "OMG WORST GAME EVER." I don't think any sane person would legitimately claim this as the worst game of the generation. Worst game of the generation you played? That's more reasonable since I have no idea what you played. Worst high profile game of the gen? Also reasonable.
It's not even the most cinematic game of the gen which seems to be your main complaint.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Majukun said:
So, Persona 3 isn't a game either, then?
You do have control over your other 2 characters in FF XIII, you just aren't selecting their every move. You set your paradigms and shift when you want them to do something new. You might not be setting their every action, but you are definitely controlling them.
I'm also not sure what you're 'watching'. You act like you don't have complete control over your leader at all times. There's barely enough time to focus on that character's actions.
Personally I'd much rather focus on controlling my main character, and switching my paradigm so my healer will cast cure rather than trouncing through menus manually selecting 'cure' every single time. If you had manual control over every character, the battle speed would have to be reduced to about 25% of its regular speed, and it would be awfully boring.
brandonh83
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Wow. Talk about making a big deal out of nothing.
Can't believe I was having so many problems. All I did was upgrade a few accessories and weapons and now I'm taking out Shaolongs in about 3 minutes. Already have 2 Dark Matters out of the 5. Damn.
Can't believe I was having so many problems. All I did was upgrade a few accessories and weapons and now I'm taking out Shaolongs in about 3 minutes. Already have 2 Dark Matters out of the 5. Damn.
Fimbulvetr said:
Next to having the most boring Cid in the whole series, the underutilized story theme, and the overall boring level design, this was one of the absolute most disappointing things about the game.
It's not that I expect a lot out of the villains, but the antagonists in this game...man.
Only one justified their existence, and that was only because of their hilarious CODE WHITE line.
Majukun
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cosmicblizzard said:
well then count me as insane.
there's no graphics,no story,no music that can make me forget the horrible gameplay of that game..i'm not exaggerating things for the sake of trolling,FFXIII is the game with less gameplay (and with the most boring one too) i have probably ever played,and i am deadly serious.
KuwabaraTheMan said:
i have not played persona,i know,it's a great game,but never played it personally.
paradigms set only what "generally" tha cpu must do,nbut if,for exemple ,i want to boost my atk in that moment,i can't,i have to switch paradigm and wait that the CPU decide that it's the moment to give it to me,probably after so many other boost that i don't need.
that's not my idea of control.
you don't have total control over you "leader" either,all you have to do is scan an enemy and then press the "automatic attack" every now and then...
.there's plenty of magics that hit a certain part of the battlefiled,and not the individual,but i have not the right to decide where my characters go,so all you can do is press a and change paradigm every now and then,no tactics involved,you can win the game with an attack formation,a cure formation and sometimes you can use a "sabotage or boost" formation,that's all you do the whole game..
DaBuddaDa said:
dragon age let you control the whole party,have tactics,have a proper gameplay.
and it's not boring at all,i can assure that to you.
brandonh83 said:
Yeah I just got 8 dark matters using Ultros' method. Here's what I'm using (crystarium is maxed):
Fang - Kain (maxed), genji glove, rest doesn't really matter
Hope - Nirvana, magestral crests
Lightning - Omega, genji
SEN/SEN/SEN
MED/MED/MED
SYN/SYN/SYN
SAB/SAB/SAB
RAV/RAV/RAV
COM/COM/COM
Battle starts, on SEN, take the quake. Quickly go to SAB and have manually have Fang stick Slow on the turtle. Slow helps so damn much with this fight. I take no more than 2 stomps while doing this before going back to MED.
Heal up, go to SYN. This is important. Make sure you stay on SYN long enough for Lightning to put enfire on at least Fang and herself. By the time she does this you have pretty much every buff you want.
Heal back up if necessary, go to RAV and get 999%, then COM, and presto. You can take him out in one stagger if he doesn't turn into a prick and tries to Bay you. I guess you could use items to prevent Daze if you want.
I keep the finger ready to switch to the SEN paradigm for Quake, Bay, or Ultima. Stomps I just eat, sometimes you get lucky with Fang and Lightning being in mid-air during a stomp. Stagger will interrupt the beginning phase of Ultima and Quake.
Doing this I can take him down. Most of the time I don't even need to bother using Highwind. Fights take about 2m30s to 3 min. Sometimes 5 minutes if he does back to back non-stomp attacks. Keep an eye on Slow! If it drops make sure to use Fang to stick it back on him.
Have all the dark matters I need. I just wish he would drop more gold nuggets.
VGChampion
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I like everything about the game. :/
I was a little late in plaything through it because of my backlog but I enjoyed it.
I was a little late in plaything through it because of my backlog but I enjoyed it.
Majukun said:
I don't think you attempted the endgame stuff. There are plenty of fights that require using the right accessories, the right tactics, and precise switching of paradigms or else you'll find yourself in a heap of trouble which to me amounts to some good gameplay.
Challenging yourself to get 5 stars on some of the fights takes all of these things into account. I think the gameplay is probably the second best part of the game next to the amazing graphics. I would love a sequel.
the battles are dynamic, enemies move - switch to a formation that can better take advantage of it. If you only play the game one in one style, then battles are only going to play out so many different ways. so many times in the first OT guys would complain about certain enemies/encounters being unbeatable and it was primarily because they'd become so accustomed to com/rav/rav that they'd forgotten about the other classes as well as timings between stagger rates.
not saying everyone was a master of the combat system, but more than a few neglected its intricacies.
btw, dragon age for console was a mess. couldn't even see half the enemies you were fighting, spells were ridiculously overpowered, item management was somehow worse than ff13s, characters somehow made me give fewer fucks than i thought possible, looked like crap most of the time, directing the entire party was 'messy' to say the least...
not saying everyone was a master of the combat system, but more than a few neglected its intricacies.
btw, dragon age for console was a mess. couldn't even see half the enemies you were fighting, spells were ridiculously overpowered, item management was somehow worse than ff13s, characters somehow made me give fewer fucks than i thought possible, looked like crap most of the time, directing the entire party was 'messy' to say the least...
Crash Station
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Majukun
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CrankyJay said:
i forced myself to the end of the game because people kept said "wait till the disc 3,game 'll get better",but nothing changed.so i didn't play the "endgame" stuff.i was bored enough with the normal game.
DY_nasty said:
as i said,i have beat the game with 3 paradigms,despite the "entricacies"
DA for console is inferior to the pc version,but it's still a masterpiece confronted to FF 13
cosmicblizzard said:
please don't let me talk about heavy rain,i don't want more enemies in this forum that the ones i already got in this thread:lol
p.s. probably these games have more gameplay than FF 13
if you forced yourself to the end of a 30+ hour game, then it couldn't be that badMajukun said:
perhaps you'd like a thread where all could applaud your tenacity and dedication for playing through the worst game of this generation?
marathonfool
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:lol at FF13 worst game on the PS3. Why would you even bother posting that in this thread?
This game had a interesting and active battle system. The post-battle report made me want to 5-star every encounter and try out different strategies to make each battle as efficient as possible. There are definitely parts that dragged it down like Chapter 5/10. But overall, the battle system made the game for me.
This game had a interesting and active battle system. The post-battle report made me want to 5-star every encounter and try out different strategies to make each battle as efficient as possible. There are definitely parts that dragged it down like Chapter 5/10. But overall, the battle system made the game for me.
DY_nasty said:if you forced yourself to the end of a 30+ hour game, then it couldn't be that bad
perhaps you'd like a thread where all could applaud your tenacity and dedication for playing through the worst game of this generation?
I got this game for $20 and it looks like I'm going to have at least 100-110 hours of gaming. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Majukun
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DY_nasty said:if you forced yourself to the end of a 30+ hour game, then it couldn't be that bad
perhaps you'd like a thread where all could applaud your tenacity and dedication for playing through the worst game of this generation?
it was bad,but gamestop don't give games for free in my town(and despite havin' paid it only 15 euro,i'm still feeling robbed),so i have finished it,it's a matter of principles
Majukun said:
I wasn't going to reply but here goes...
The game has the second best soundtrack for an RPG this year, and is one of the best looking games ever. If you didn't finish the game for the story or gameplay, then I'm sure those are the reasons. It's in your subconscious dude...
Yep. Libra -> Auto Attack + Paradigm Shift when needed. That is the battle system in a nutshell. It's especially hilarious when you defeat a big ass boss without knowing its weak points. As long as the AI knows it, why should I, right?
Optional bosses may require specific strategies and the use of certain equipment to get a good ranking. But I couldn't go past 12 or so "side quests" and quit eventually.
After beating this game, one thing was made clear, Demon's Souls is still the best JRPG of this gen. OH YEAH!!
Crash Station
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Majukun said:
Heavy Rain is polarizing as fuck on Gaf. You should be fine no matter which side you're on.
Bitmap Frogs
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Back when it was released I quit at the last boss because I couldn't push enough damage fast enough and I didn't feel like grinding.
Now this thread made me crave for the remaining content on the disk and I need help: what should I do now? Chars have the 3 main crystariums each pretty full (but not maxed). Should I grind? If so, where and on what? Missions... I've done 45% already and the remaining are very tough.
Suggestions?
Now this thread made me crave for the remaining content on the disk and I need help: what should I do now? Chars have the 3 main crystariums each pretty full (but not maxed). Should I grind? If so, where and on what? Missions... I've done 45% already and the remaining are very tough.
Suggestions?
Crash Station
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Bitmap Frogs said:
You shouldn't have to grind. Just keep your hp up and have 2 medics ready after he does the really annoying attack. If you're about to die and/or your party members are dead, use your summon for a free mega elixir effect. It really shouldn't be that hard with an almost maxed crystarium for the 3 main roles.
brandonh83
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CrankyJay said:
I just got the last one I needed for accessory upgrading. Thank jesus.
marathonfool
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If you have 3 main crystariums full, you shouldn't need to grind at all. I beat all but 3 missions with base weapons and the last level of the crystarium barely used. Stack defensive accessories based on the enemy and make liberal use of saboteur, sentinel, and synergist. Or use shrouds and summons. There are so many ways of beating the missions at a lower level. I made many enemy specific paradigms and it was a lot of fun.Bitmap Frogs said:
Crash Station
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CrankyJay said:
How much do you have now? I was able to get Treasure Hunter with like 2 mil after 2 hours of upgrading and selling pretty much everything. I was getting worried near the end because I didn't think I would have enough, but I did. Only had like 5k gil leftover. That would've suuuuucked if I didn't have enough :lol
cosmicblizzard said:
Well, I'm being paranoid about selling stuff off in case I accidentally don't keep track of everything, but I have every tier 3 weapon. I have every dark matter upgraded accessory.
That being said there are the weapons I need to buy from gilgameshes shop and upgrade to tier 2, a bunch of regular weapons i need to upgrade to tier two, and a handful of accessories to upgrade.
I have like 53 gil. :lol Been farming Shaos hoping for gold nuggets to drop. Sold off my growth egg for 250k.
marathonfool
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If you just want the trophy, you can just sell everything, upgrade all weapons, and not save.CrankyJay said:
Rahxephon91
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Like what? Art style goes a long way into making a game look good.Kagari said:
TheChillyAcademic
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Rahxephon91 said:
Well yes it certainly does if the art style is good.
Rahxephon91
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Well then that part is up to you. I find the art in FFXIII to be pretty fantastic, leagues ahead of most stuff. Then again I also like anime and jrpgs, so I may be a bit bias. Others may find the art of something like God of War to be better. I myself don't so when I think of which one impressed me more, it's going to be XIII over GoW3.TheChillyAcademic said: