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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn |OT3| LFT Full Relic and DL Required
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Why not just use Mouseover Macros?
I had so many allies die during my WHM days beacuse of accidental heals on the wrong target because I forgot about <mo>.
I will never heal without them in an MMO. They made me a god among mundane players in WoW.
I'm glad that they're in FFXIV, although I wish their functionality was improved. Right now they can (apparently?) only be set for one conditional (that is, the mouseover), which means they error out if nothing is under your cursor.
tiggerkiddo
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Real WHM players use a 360 pad.
And like it!
And like it!
Ultros.
Oh I am on Phoenix, too. Who are you playing with?
Yeah I was the guy messaging you about maybe getting in on a Titan run but I got in on one with the FC we merged with and never chased it up. I'm with Dango at the moment.
Believe it or not.... using a pad, due to the current design of the game, is actually ever so slightly faster (and a whole lot more comfortable) then conventional healing. Still doesn't beat the speed of a good mousoever macro tho.
WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! (until the buff)
Bad joke for Black Friday morning.
For me coming at this as a fan of the FF games moreso than MMO's I thought it was perfect. It's not turn based combat but is pretty close to newer games in the single player genre like FFXII or Xenoblade. You can do most of the main story solo if you want. You have to party for required dungeons but it's not too much of a hassle. I've really enjoyed playing with the GAF folks on Ultros.
Yeah Ultros is like that too, everyone is really nice but then you get guys like Qhon.
Oh hey Qhon. WE'RE HAVING FUN HERE! CAN'T YOU SEE WE'RE HAVING FUN!
Remember you promised to wait for me to do Cutter's Cry. However, forecasts on attaining level 38 keep getting pushed back like 2.1. We're looking at deep into next week!
Oh right. Glad you got it done, though
Currently on my third relic for SCH, myself.
Jumped on the WAR train and am working in that relic now. Enjoying it.
Haha. I main my DRG and am only geared well enough for coil on it. Ive got a coil group going starting next week anyways
Clever Pun
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This is not correct. I have Adlo set up with <mo> first and <me> next so if I mouse over a party member it will heal them, but if I don't it will fall back to heal me. Similarly, I have Lustrate set to go <mo> then <t> because I always have the tank targetted, so I can easily Lustrate when they are low, or I can mouse over any one, including myself, if an emergency Lustrate is necessary.
I tried that, but it didn't appear to work. Guess I'll give it another shot later on.
EDIT: Yeah I just get an error. How exactly are you setting it up to have multiple conditionals?
EDIT 2: Oh, you just add the same spell again with a different target. Well that's an ass-backards way to do it, even if it does work.
Clever Pun
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Yeah it's not an elegant solution, but it does work. I do the same thing with my DPS spells so I can either target them with <tt> through the tank, or <t> if I'm not targeting the tank for whatever reason.
It's unreliable, because it's not actually a proper conditional. Rather, the game is simply trying to cast all three spells sequentially. I tried it for an Ifrit run and just went back to using a single line mouseover for the spell. ><;
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/89362-装備の現状・・・?p=1608891#post1608891
translation (not mine):
Hey Sophia, on which server do you play? I don't think I know.
translation (not mine):
Hey Sophia, on which server do you play? I don't think I know.
Clever Pun
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Unreliable how? I grant it's not ideal, but I've never experienced it doing the wrong thing (i.e. it never heals me if I'm mousing over a party member)
Adamantoise. Originally I made a character on the Ultros server and was in the GAF guild, but restarted because WoW friends wanted me over there.
Question.
Are they still going to do that thing, where two Free Companies could go to war, and the losing side would be merged with the winning? (Not entirely certain I even understood that right.)
Just, occurred to me, that this would be an effective means of getting past the 1 House per FC limit, if they're indeed still doing it.
Are they still going to do that thing, where two Free Companies could go to war, and the losing side would be merged with the winning? (Not entirely certain I even understood that right.)
Just, occurred to me, that this would be an effective means of getting past the 1 House per FC limit, if they're indeed still doing it.
Relaxed Muscle
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Sargatanas GAF is not inactive, we're just waiting for our moment to attack!
FC is still quite active but I don't see most GAF members, neither I play that much anymore
Note: Image is just a random reunion of DRG on Sargatanas, everbody and his mother has a 50 DRG there...
So, a few days ago, during a WP run, we were doing the lockout on the first boss, when the power went out for two of our party members, locking them out of the boss arena as well. So we essentially went into that fight, with only myself (WAR Tank,) and the Healer (White Mage.)
Well, the whole fight felt more like a slog than anything else, when somehow, the Healer was killed when the Boss still had somewhere between a third and half its HP left.
Well, I figured that even against this weak boss, this run would end up a Wipe, but, since nobody was around to take aggro from me, I switched to the HP Leech rotation, started using Bloodbath every chance I had, and immediately shot off Inner Beast whenever I had full Wrath stacks.
Surprisingly, it worked, the boss went down and I still had about 300HP left in the Tank. I know it's one of the weaker bosses, but I still count it as one of my better accomplishments in this game. (The Healers too, there's no way I would've lasted so long if Vivid hadn't done such a good job keeping my HP topped off.)
Gotta say though, ever since then I've been extra sad about losing such a large chunk of my HP leeching abilities. I understand why, seeing as they're under-powered now, and it'd be absurdly each to make WAR overpowered if they simply buffed the HP-Leech margins.
Still, I'm going to miss the small degree of Independence those self-heals allowed me. It may have only been good for emergencies, and useless against the really tough bosses, but still!
Well, the whole fight felt more like a slog than anything else, when somehow, the Healer was killed when the Boss still had somewhere between a third and half its HP left.
Well, I figured that even against this weak boss, this run would end up a Wipe, but, since nobody was around to take aggro from me, I switched to the HP Leech rotation, started using Bloodbath every chance I had, and immediately shot off Inner Beast whenever I had full Wrath stacks.
Surprisingly, it worked, the boss went down and I still had about 300HP left in the Tank. I know it's one of the weaker bosses, but I still count it as one of my better accomplishments in this game. (The Healers too, there's no way I would've lasted so long if Vivid hadn't done such a good job keeping my HP topped off.)
Gotta say though, ever since then I've been extra sad about losing such a large chunk of my HP leeching abilities. I understand why, seeing as they're under-powered now, and it'd be absurdly each to make WAR overpowered if they simply buffed the HP-Leech margins.
Still, I'm going to miss the small degree of Independence those self-heals allowed me. It may have only been good for emergencies, and useless against the really tough bosses, but still!
rykomatsu
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I can't mouse over when moving around using left+right click on mouse
I can't move with mouse when mousing over
If I <mo>, then I lose a few moments of mobility due to using mouse to move
Psh.
What does your mouseover healing macro look like exactly? I've been trying to figure out how to make them work, but I'm confused.
What does your mouseover healing macro look like exactly? I've been trying to figure out how to make them work, but I'm confused.
iirc it's something like...
/ac Cure <t>
/ac Cure <mo>
/ac Cure <me>
When you hit this macro, it will try to fire off whichever one works first from top to bottom. If you've got a target selected, it will begin casting on that. If no target, it checks if your mouse is over an eligible target. If none, you just cast it on yourself.
Or for something like DPS:
/ac "True Thrust" <tt>
/ac "True Thrust" <t>
Prioritizing if you have your tank targeted and then if you have your own target. I guess it's a nice way to always ensure you have something being cast on GCD? I personally just do everything manually since I feel more in control of every GCD.
Sorry. >.<
Don't get me wrong, the GAF guild are all cool folks, but these were people I had played with on and off for over three years. Even met some of them in real life. I couldn't possibly pass up when I heard they were all organized again.
If you do make macros like this, you'll wish to either disable error messages in your log or put them on another tab. Otherwise your screen is going to get spammed due to the way they're executed.
So people weren't kidding about the bard AF being aesthetically terrible. At least the pants. The rest I can deal with, but it looks like the pants were sewn together from two halves of entirely different pieces of clothing. You'd think a class with a history of performing in front of people would know how to dress better.
Edit: ^ Grats!
Edit: ^ Grats!
So people weren't kidding about the bard AF being aesthetically terrible. At least the pants. The rest I can deal with, but it looks like the pants were sewn together from two halves of entirely different pieces of clothing. You'd think a class with a history of performing in front of people would know how to dress better.
Edit: ^ Grats!
Excuse you, brd af is perfection (at least on guys- I hate how the girl version is missing the undershirt part). Was so excited to get my jester pants. <3
So people weren't kidding about the bard AF being aesthetically terrible. At least the pants. The rest I can deal with, but it looks like the pants were sewn together from two halves of entirely different pieces of clothing. You'd think a class with a history of performing in front of people would know how to dress better.
Edit: ^ Grats!
bard af is the best. you just cannot handle how fabulous it is
edgefusion
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Got Mining and Goldsmith both to 50 this week, very chuffed! Next week I'll get my Relic+1, good times for Ravishan Goldhawk in Eorzea! Next is alchemy I think, it seems like the least popular of the classes so I'll give it some love.
crackbabyjr
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It's the least popular cause its expensive and doesn't make anything really worth it in my opinion(aka I am too cheap to spend 10k for 3 potions). The AF looks cool though.
edgefusion
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I was a monk before it was cool and I'll be an alchemist before it's cool too, even if it bankrupts me!
Already bankrupt
Grats!
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