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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn |OT3| LFT Full Relic and DL Required
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the_sun_king
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Not everyone in end game is like that. Yes, in Party Finder - and if you hang around Mor Dhona - you will see some elite pros who are very alienating of others and like to be all "You die once, you get booted." But, I avoid those types of characters. I've only just started the Binding Coil (and have yet to tackle the extreme primals), but there are equally helpful and understanding players out there, who as long as you let them know you're new, won't look down their noses at you. In fact, they'll be willing to give advice and help.
Now, where I do find a lot of toxic player behavior is in Crystal Tower, but it's kind of expected. You have 24 different people coming together in that and you're gonna get all kinds of characters. It's very hit-or-miss; some runs you'll have a great alliance, but a lot of times, you'll have a mixed bag. And, you can get absolutely horrid party compositions. CT is the most casual of end game content, though (well, next to the daily beastmen tribe quests), so you are free to run it at your own pace. You don't have to dive through it everyday unless you want to.
My point is don't be too turned off by some of the elitists. Party Finder is also there for you to start your own parties, too; you can list it in the ad if newcomers are welcome, you're taking it nice and slow, you're going to watch cutscenes, etc. Take advantage of it! Chances are you'll get people who are looking for the exact type of group you're recruiting and will join you. And, of course, don't forget about your FC. Always give them a shout first.
This isn't True either .. :S
Edit:- Although if you read what I said, I did mention getting a good group of people/FC will make a big difference. (finding that is easier said than done though)
I'm already addicted to the Leviathan theme.
It's a shame it won't be on the upcoming OST.
i have good news
preorders for ffxiv arr 2.2 ost should be up soon!
Augemitbutter
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they had to work on something substantial since launch. all we got so far were updates where you couldn't progress further with your main char. mainly quality of life stuff and things that needed finishing touches, but should have been ready for launch. it was long overdue.
Unknown Soldier
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They have said that they aren't doing traditional expansion packs anymore for FFXIV. Instead we'll get these content patches on a 3-month cadence. However I wonder if this claim will hold up when it's time to add new zones, I could see them doing mini-expansions periodically like what Guild Wars does when that sort of content is added.
Between the new crafting items and vanity, I think the economy should be in much better shape after this patch. I mean, even items crafted from Philosphy Tomes are going to be more valuable after the patch. I've met a few players that, for example, liked the look of the Vanya Robes a lot more than the Myth Healer Rope. Nobody really bought Vanya after awhile since it wasn't really viable that far into the endgame, but now, if you like the look it's easily worth buying.
Same for everything else really. Even if an items stats aren't that great, it'll sell if it looks okay. So, at least for awhile the economy should get a fairly significant boost.
Same for everything else really. Even if an items stats aren't that great, it'll sell if it looks okay. So, at least for awhile the economy should get a fairly significant boost.
Didn't Yoshi specifically say in the last live letter that they were working on a normal expansion pack, in addition to those content patches? I distinctly remember him saying something along the lines of "content for an expansion pack would be roughly the size of all of 2.0" and "the content you'll get will be enough to make you feel like it's worth paying for it".
Yeah, I feel like vanity alone will give the economy the boost it needs, even for old crafted equipment. People love having options on what colors to use, specially if we're gonna get crafted recolors of Foestriker/Battlemage/Infantry/Cavalry rather than being able to dye the old stuff.
tiggerkiddo
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I guess because it's been since early September since I did weaving, but this crafting job is hella annoying to level up. Thankfully the markets in Uldah carry Hempen yarn and hempen cloth so I'm just taking that shortcut. ARM seems to be in the same vein. Thank goodness for having an alt with level 50 WVR, I refuse to go down that road again.
Unknown Soldier
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tiggerkiddo
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Give me a Leviathan and Moogle egi!
Zomba13
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Yeah. I've heard that before.
"New summons are coming guys. Don't worry."
*A billion years after Aht Urghan*
"Here, I guess you can summon Odin and Alexander or something now. But only as a 2hr."
tiggerkiddo
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For those of you that beat Twin, how much practice did you do a week when your group was seriously practicing the fight?
For us, it was a couple weeks - a few days a week.
You'll be ok, as more people join the FC i'm sure we'll have more than enough people to go around. The fights arent anywhere near as strict as XI as i've sure you've seen.
I wouldnt be so sure.
Yer i got blade. just need hands and bracer for full set
Got helm and blade in 1 run the other week.
Grats man. Got all those classes to 50 yet?
PS. Get me into Shinra.
Hey, they just added Cait Sith to FF11!
crackbabyjr
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12-17 hours a day every day.
I wonder if this will be the case at all. Philos tome mats were already bottomed out so anyone who liked any of the looks would have probably scooped them up before. Not to mention it's still piss easy to just farm philos and buy your own mats. Everyone and their mother has a craft/gatherer up now and knows several who have all of them who will hook you up. The prisms themselves will be cheap and easy to make. Dyes are piss easy to gather/make as well (or buy, or...).
I don't see it. I can see a little bump at the start but...nothing is going to truly jump start the economy in this game until the crafting/gathering is revamped to where everyone can not master everything.
tiggerkiddo
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Our group tried doing Twin multiple times a week for several weeks but we eventually stopped because people were burned out. Hopefully we get it down soon...
Haman Karn
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It's a bit tricky getting back to how consistent we were before with Raijinken, because Havi is still learning. Even still we had our best attempt ever today. I'm sure if we had put more time into it we would have had it weeks ago but I don't think anyone in our group really wants to do the same encounter 3-4 times a week for 3 hours every time. I know I don't... it's just too draining.
word of advice: progress can be made even when not playing the game
It may sound obvious but it wasn't for us, so take frequent breaks between attempts. I seriously wish we had considered this earlier, as a normal trend for us was to have an excellent first lockout then a second filled with regression and stupid mistakes before calling it. We also generally had raid nights spaced throughout the week rather than back to back to back.
I don't know what part you guys are stuck on but I'm sure you can do it. Just gotta believe in yourselves! (Actually another issue we had >_>)
Nah that was Titan.
Yeah I know what you mean. We actually had effectively 10 members of our static when we were learning T5, with member swaps(and even strategy...) seemingly every other night. It was not good, and a massive waste of time.
3-4 nights of 2 lockouts is definitely overkill. I think our usual schedule was one lockout on our regular coil night, then anywhere between 2-4 more lockouts spaced throughout the week. Our schedules are weird so doing a ton of attempts every night as not really an option for us.
Haman Karn
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I wouldn't say we are stuck on anything in particular, we just make a lot of little mistakes that mean we rarely ever get to twisters. Yesterday we got there cleanly once in 3 hours. I'm pretty confident that given another couple of weeks we could do it pre-nerf, but we'll just have to make do with what we have and stay positive!
As was mentioned previously, it took us a couple of weeks with around...two or so nights of attempts per week [usually for a lockout or two, sometimes three depending].
The best advice I can give is to not "burn yourself out". Go in there for a lockout and, if things are beginning to get sloppy, take a 10-15 minute break to re-focus, grab a drink, etc. If you just try to force yourselves through it, not only will people begin to get fatigued earlier on, but their gameplay will likely suffer as well. Take things slow, learn the mechanics and each phase at a pace suitable to your group and, more importantly, don't give up!
I'm sure you guys will win eventually! I have faith in you.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Just remember to not get pissed at your team members for messing up due to a mechanic
It will happen, it will take a lot of practice, mistakes you make and fix will make you win T5
You really have to go through the phases:
Get up to Conflag
Get to Conflag stage, Learn Conflag/Bypass Conflag
Get to Divebombs, Learn bombs/Bypass Bombs <Hardest Part to Work Out>
Learn Snakes, Bypass Snakes
Learn Twister/Knight, Bypass
Kill before Enrage
WIN!
tiggerkiddo
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Thanks for the advice all. I try not to get stressed too much with Coil, especially since I run with 2 groups. It can be so easy to burn myself out.
Stone Ocean
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If that gambler vanity gear is BLM/SMN only I guess I'm leveling a BLM from now on.
I think 1 week? More or less cause we had to pug 1-2 members occasionally because some members had real life problems.
Honestly, the "hardest" thing about Twintania is finding a group of motivated people. Too many times in the past I ran into people abandoning a set pt because said pt couldn't down it in 2 nights. Because of FFXIV mentality, people are too used to get carried/giving up too easily, as opposed to trying to push a fight. Once you manage to find a group of motivated people it's mostly about memorizing the fight like usual.
And yeah, don't get burned out. It's not even worth that much anymore.
cultureculture
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Um, who doesnt think this will be the case? :/
I also think (hope?) the AF2 will be a similar thing, where you need to use new tomes or tome items to upgrade existing myth gear to AF2, making it a little less easy to get Tome ilvl100 or whatever gear. At least that would require some sort of gear progression still.
Well, I am just saying allagan weapons will still have their use for a bit.
Stone Ocean
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As long as stuff is gear gated it should be fine.
I mean, I doubt people will be beating Coil 2 easily without having Coil 1 stuff, same for Leviathan.
I mean, I doubt people will be beating Coil 2 easily without having Coil 1 stuff, same for Leviathan.
Leviathan is part of the story mode and will likely drop the weapons there. They won't make that fight difficult to the point people can't clear it quickly. Extreme mode on the other hand...
Well the stuff they showed in the video did look pretty crazy... many hours of wipes, gear repairs and tears incoming.
Well the ADS that did high voltage and disappeared in the trailer shows that its gonna be full of tears
tiggerkiddo
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You're beyond Coil groups full of tears, you've moved onto Coil turns of Allagan Maaaaaaan bathing in loot
I guess that's not a bad thing.
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