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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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Unknown Soldier
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Well, a 50 THM soloed Dodore. I guess we can all quit the game now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KazOD98mqr4
This guy was 50THM/50CON when he did this. The key is apparently (Emulate), a skill that Squenix will probably move to the top of the nerf list now that someone has soloed Dodore with it. THM is a pretty impressively broken class, it's too bad this guy didn't get to solo Morbol with his THM before they nerfed (Punishing Barbs) and (Firm Conviction) in November.
I wonder whatever happened to Treitei Firnas, that guy hit 50THM/50CON before he quit a few months back. He could probably do this if he watched the video and read up on the tactics used and practiced a few times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KazOD98mqr4
This guy was 50THM/50CON when he did this. The key is apparently (Emulate), a skill that Squenix will probably move to the top of the nerf list now that someone has soloed Dodore with it. THM is a pretty impressively broken class, it's too bad this guy didn't get to solo Morbol with his THM before they nerfed (Punishing Barbs) and (Firm Conviction) in November.
I wonder whatever happened to Treitei Firnas, that guy hit 50THM/50CON before he quit a few months back. He could probably do this if he watched the video and read up on the tactics used and practiced a few times.
Munba
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Producer Letter V (with 2nd Poll results):
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=7268beda5ef81b10600f4ba07316083b634f7678
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=7268beda5ef81b10600f4ba07316083b634f7678
JoshuaJSlone
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Kind of disappointed with the results of the instancing question, though clearly I am in quite the minority. I pretty much dislike anything that ruins the illusion of actually existing in a shared world.
Outdoor Miner
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JoshuaJSlone said:
I'm with you, but we certainly are a minority. I hate instanced dungeons. Makes the rest of the game world feel like a glorified lobby.
Outdoor Miner
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Salaadin said:
Oh for sure. I think it would be cool if both types of dungeons could be had in a game. I think it can be done. Have the instanced dungeons be smaller in scale (able to complete around 30 minutes-ish), and then have huge public dungeons where you can solo or duo on the fringes but to get to the heart you will need to get into a full group.
Riposte
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I am quite relieved on their approach to "traditional" names. Kind of reassures my confidence I can get attach to the setting.
EDIT: You can count me a fan of instance dungeons if it results in challenging content. The kind of challenge you'd find in a "normal" game. Just putting everything out in the field allows for more tactics abuse. The most fun I had in FFXI were semi-instanced missions.
EDIT: Lack of party based actions didn't win out. Hope he realizes it is ultimately the best source of depth(thus interesting mechanics) he can get out of the battle system.
EDIT: You can count me a fan of instance dungeons if it results in challenging content. The kind of challenge you'd find in a "normal" game. Just putting everything out in the field allows for more tactics abuse. The most fun I had in FFXI were semi-instanced missions.
EDIT: Lack of party based actions didn't win out. Hope he realizes it is ultimately the best source of depth(thus interesting mechanics) he can get out of the battle system.
Yeah I prefer the way ffxi did it. Its a shame that all mmos now have to follow one formula. I guess I can just remember the good old days when everything felt like a open world and a adventure. Not instant this and instant that. I'm not against instances just a game being mostly instances.JoshuaJSlone said:
Rentahamster
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Wasn't that long ago. He just never showed up after 1.15 hit.Unknown Soldier said:
Riposte
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Babalu. said:
Personally I am not for or against really. I find it kind of silly to have them, given my origins in Dungeon and Dragons where you can do anything you want, but it might not benefit you. But it is a videogame, so whatever. However I don't see how they hurt either.
My thoughts exactly. Really hope the current dungeons get addons like random chests and boss fights, while instances follow the mmm or nyzul island route.Outdoor Miner said:
Maybe some sort of really high...tower of babel style challenge dungeon(ffiv fan lol). Also cant wait to see the new rank up fx, what they mean by adjusting enemy size, and how the new mp regen works.
Patch notes are up!
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=26b05ca12f4a3f28e2208f9e3a3f73b725452113
Excerpts that I believe are the most important sections of the update:
More than several sidequests have been added.
When all of the prerequisite conditions for undertaking a sidequest have been met, an exclamation point (!) icon will appear over the head of the NPC offering it. While on a sidequest, this icon will also appear above NPCs to whom you must speak to in order to progress. The icon will also appear at NPC locations on the map and minimap.
* Enemies defeated as part of a sidequest do not yield skill points, experience points, or loot.
* The term "sidequests" is the new official designation for what was previously referred to as "miniquests" in several Letter from the Producer posts.
GIANT MONSTERS NOW! ahem...
Final Fantasy feel is go! All monster sizes have been adjusted.
An icon has been added to hostile enemies to distinguish them from non-hostile enemies.
* Hostile enemies are those that will attack PCs unprovoked.
The HP values of the following enemies have been increased.
Cavernulous Coblyn / Copper Coblyn / Corroded Coblyn / Chitinous Coblyn / Diaphanous Doblyn / Heliodor Doblyn / Iron Coblyn / Lead Coblyn / Quartz Doblyn / Sphene Doblyn
The following enemies no longer suffer damage when using the Cluster Geyser ability.
Diaphanous Doblyn / Heliodor Doblyn / Quartz Doblyn / Sphene Doblyn
MP now automatically regenerates while in passive mode.
The recast timers for the following abilities have been reduced from 60 seconds to 30 seconds.
Dowse / Dowse II / Dowse III / Dowse IV / Dowse V / Prospect / Prospect II / Prospect III / Prospect IV / Prospect V / Triangulate / Triangulate II / Triangulate III / Triangulate IV / Triangulate V
The Steadfast status no longer wears off as a result of slight movements.
When the optimal class or optimal rank for a piece of equipped gear is met, that item's condition will deteriorate at a reduced rate. If both values are met, the deterioration rate will be slowed even further.
The condition (%) at which a piece of gear inflicts a player with the Gear Damage status has been reduced from 50% to 35%.
The clock text command now displays the following information:
Countdown timer for Guardian's Favor
3-D effects displayed when a new rank or level is obtained have undergone the following changes:
Effects will no longer overlap with other on-screen elements
Display size has been increased.
Display time has been lengthened.
The status icon interface is now outlined in blue when moused over for ease of viewing.
Targeting can now also be done in the following ways:
← and → keys
Clicking on a target's display name
Camera distance settings can now be adjusted while locked onto a target.
Targeting modes that cycle through only specific target types can now be enabled when using a gamepad.
Targeting modes can be selected by using the ↑ and ↓ keys, or the up and down directional buttons mapped to Target/Menu Navigation on a gamepad.
Check out the full note list at the site.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=26b05ca12f4a3f28e2208f9e3a3f73b725452113
Excerpts that I believe are the most important sections of the update:
More than several sidequests have been added.
When all of the prerequisite conditions for undertaking a sidequest have been met, an exclamation point (!) icon will appear over the head of the NPC offering it. While on a sidequest, this icon will also appear above NPCs to whom you must speak to in order to progress. The icon will also appear at NPC locations on the map and minimap.
* Enemies defeated as part of a sidequest do not yield skill points, experience points, or loot.
* The term "sidequests" is the new official designation for what was previously referred to as "miniquests" in several Letter from the Producer posts.
GIANT MONSTERS NOW! ahem...
Final Fantasy feel is go! All monster sizes have been adjusted.
An icon has been added to hostile enemies to distinguish them from non-hostile enemies.
* Hostile enemies are those that will attack PCs unprovoked.
The HP values of the following enemies have been increased.
Cavernulous Coblyn / Copper Coblyn / Corroded Coblyn / Chitinous Coblyn / Diaphanous Doblyn / Heliodor Doblyn / Iron Coblyn / Lead Coblyn / Quartz Doblyn / Sphene Doblyn
The following enemies no longer suffer damage when using the Cluster Geyser ability.
Diaphanous Doblyn / Heliodor Doblyn / Quartz Doblyn / Sphene Doblyn
MP now automatically regenerates while in passive mode.
The recast timers for the following abilities have been reduced from 60 seconds to 30 seconds.
Dowse / Dowse II / Dowse III / Dowse IV / Dowse V / Prospect / Prospect II / Prospect III / Prospect IV / Prospect V / Triangulate / Triangulate II / Triangulate III / Triangulate IV / Triangulate V
The Steadfast status no longer wears off as a result of slight movements.
When the optimal class or optimal rank for a piece of equipped gear is met, that item's condition will deteriorate at a reduced rate. If both values are met, the deterioration rate will be slowed even further.
The condition (%) at which a piece of gear inflicts a player with the Gear Damage status has been reduced from 50% to 35%.
The clock text command now displays the following information:
Countdown timer for Guardian's Favor
3-D effects displayed when a new rank or level is obtained have undergone the following changes:
Effects will no longer overlap with other on-screen elements
Display size has been increased.
Display time has been lengthened.
The status icon interface is now outlined in blue when moused over for ease of viewing.
Targeting can now also be done in the following ways:
← and → keys
Clicking on a target's display name
Camera distance settings can now be adjusted while locked onto a target.
Targeting modes that cycle through only specific target types can now be enabled when using a gamepad.
Targeting modes can be selected by using the ↑ and ↓ keys, or the up and down directional buttons mapped to Target/Menu Navigation on a gamepad.
Check out the full note list at the site.
Man the detail is really going to shine through now. I know its only certain monsters, but still. No FF game should have tiny monsters, unless its for a reason (chigoes for instance in XI).
Oh and Non-hostile enemies that previously followed or fled from a PC when approached no longer do so.
Oh and Non-hostile enemies that previously followed or fled from a PC when approached no longer do so.
Pai Pai Master
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Teknoman said:
Oh thank god. Fucking annoying and retarded design decision having monsters follow you around when you're trying to fight shit. Made AOE attacks/spells useless just because they thought it'd be cute.
Pai Pai Master said:
Funny thing is that some guy over at ZAM is bitching about how it kills immersion. Really? Because goats just randomly follow people in real life.
Same for the aggro indicator. But yeah, dont know what the previous team was thinking by making something like that happen. Maybe fleeing monsters are ok ala Dragon Quest or Persona 3-4, but monsters that just follow you regardless of aggro?
Riposte said:
Well since Yoshi hasnt managed to get the team to fix the LS interface system (I guess that'll happen in the second March patch? Maybe whenever companies hit) if you've got a Gunsmith Cats pearl, you should be good.
Still cant wait to return to using Stars of Destiny...or should we just wait to see what happens with companies, and make a new identity altogether? Know i've asked this question before...but still.
And yeah, every member of the funguar and spriggan species should be bigger. Dunno if they enlarged the rodents, bugs, puks, or flytraps as well. Would be nice though. At minimum, most monsters should be big as those demon gnats imo.
EDIT: First thing i'm going to post on the forum is a suggestion to make patches downloadable with or without the torrent.
I think people are going to be seriously disappointed with the quests and how they've set them up.
I don't know what everyone was expecting, but I doubt that it will be implemented that way.
No cutscenes quests, no talking, no anything. Just a text bubble that says go kill 10 monsters that are attacking my invisible tomatoe garden. Then a long walk or teleport to the crystal to go do it. Then walk from the crystal to kill and then return. A text bubble that says here is your reward.
It will be the same thing as a guildleve except you get it from different people instead of at the desk. And then these are limited. I highly doubt they put in thousands of quests. Probably more like 50-100 quests.
And then theres this:
So its WORSE then a guildleve. You dont get any exp or sp or drops, just the reward for the quest which i have no doubts will be worthless.
Yeah, i was expecting nice quests and things too until I really stopped to think about it.
I hope i'm wrong but I would bet money that i'm not.
I don't know what everyone was expecting, but I doubt that it will be implemented that way.
No cutscenes quests, no talking, no anything. Just a text bubble that says go kill 10 monsters that are attacking my invisible tomatoe garden. Then a long walk or teleport to the crystal to go do it. Then walk from the crystal to kill and then return. A text bubble that says here is your reward.
It will be the same thing as a guildleve except you get it from different people instead of at the desk. And then these are limited. I highly doubt they put in thousands of quests. Probably more like 50-100 quests.
And then theres this:
So its WORSE then a guildleve. You dont get any exp or sp or drops, just the reward for the quest which i have no doubts will be worthless.
Yeah, i was expecting nice quests and things too until I really stopped to think about it.
I hope i'm wrong but I would bet money that i'm not.
Emenis said:
I say bring on some FF series (spin offs too) style names.
Babalu. said:
Most people are just expecting XI caliber or better mini story side quests, just without the unnecessary vagueness or repetition of farming the same item to turn in over and over. Its obvious they didnt implement a huge amount of quests in this patch, but hopefully its a decent amount for a start. What reason do you have to not expect miniature cutscenes though? If they are supposed to shed light on the back story of Eorzea and connect events that occur in the main story missions...I dont think it would just be a single guildleve level text entry.
As far as the rewards go, i'm sure they wont just throw anything at you that isnt worthwhile for your rank. I'm not really worried about not getting exp or drops from quest enemies, since most XI monsters didnt do that, and we got along just fine with nice/useful rewards from the quests.
Also Aetherytes are not involved or at least there are no indications that show you need to visit one.
Another notable entry from Eorzepedia's interview:
There has been a lot of discussion about high level content, and some discussion of mid-level content as well (rank 25+). Will anything be added to lower levels to increase the playability at these levels?
A. Yoshida-san recognizes that low-level content is very important, but admitted that the current priority is high to mid-level content. He believes that not only is the high level content the most lacking, but its absence also means that there is nothing for low and mid-level players to look forward to. Immediately after addressing the high-level content, however, he will address low level content.
Yoshida-san went on to reveal his vision for low level content which is mainly through quests. More specifically, for ranks 9-15 he envisions quests that will direct players to go to a specific dungeon (one per city-state). In these dungeons the players will congregate, form parties and, most importantly, create memories. According to Yoshida-san, it is very important for players to have these memories of playing the early levels.
There has been a lot of discussion about high level content, and some discussion of mid-level content as well (rank 25+). Will anything be added to lower levels to increase the playability at these levels?
A. Yoshida-san recognizes that low-level content is very important, but admitted that the current priority is high to mid-level content. He believes that not only is the high level content the most lacking, but its absence also means that there is nothing for low and mid-level players to look forward to. Immediately after addressing the high-level content, however, he will address low level content.
Yoshida-san went on to reveal his vision for low level content which is mainly through quests. More specifically, for ranks 9-15 he envisions quests that will direct players to go to a specific dungeon (one per city-state). In these dungeons the players will congregate, form parties and, most importantly, create memories. According to Yoshida-san, it is very important for players to have these memories of playing the early levels.
Emenis said:Go here on your comp for the torrent.
C:\Users\*USER*\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV\downloads\ffxiv\48eca647\metainfo
Edit: Bah, see you soon then .
Eh it's like frozen or stuck, where should I save it at in my bittorrent client? Somewhere in the FFXIV folder?
Coldsnap said:
Did you put the patch file you downloaded into FFXIV's patch folder? It should've spend 1-3 seconds "downloading" once you started up the client again, and then installed the patch.
I just used the metadata file Emenis pointed out, downloaded the patch to my desktop, and then dropped the patch into the right folder, overwriting the partially downloaded one.
Anyway, about 14 minutes or so until i'm finished uploading to mediafire, so I can just post the link here if you're still stuck.
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