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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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As far as I can tell the job system will probably just change your stats, HP/MP and restrict you from using other skills and spells.
Somewhere along the line they got confused or changed their minds and made classes a lot more specialised than they intended to or at least thats the feeling I get, I am happy either way though.
I just hope Jobs are worth using.
As convoluted as it may be, it seems like that is working as designed. Maybe Yoshida will change that before or after 2.0 but the old developers wanted the selling process to be a game in itself where you gauged the market and the best sellers would do the most research for the item they wanted to sell. Its not a good system for newer players though, so hopefully one of the things changed whenever they get around to the retainer/marketward overhauls in 2.0 is they give players the option to do all search/management options through your retainer and that you can level it up or something to give it the ability to compare items price history as you are about to put an item up for sale. Its taking them this long to get a proper search and drop, I don't expect something like that to change till the server architecture is overhauled unfortunately. Yoshida is a long time MMO player, I'm sure he is aware the more on the spot information you can give to a player, the better it will be for the whole community in the long run.
Edit: Servers are up early, people are heading on now.
InfiniDragon
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New patch is nice. Loving the combat changes despite my initial concerns, and the combo system is slick.
And they didn't re-nerf Marauders, yay.
And they didn't re-nerf Marauders, yay.
Just got on. Got to lol at some of the achievements and how absurd they are as far as grinding is concerned. BUT, I suppose it gives me some kind of long term goal to work towards when I have down time. There is an achievement in game that grants you the title "Lord Protector" and the conditions is finishing 5k REGIONAL levequests. It does track what you had before, but unless you did all 8 regional during each reset, it would take a year to do it, that doesn't include the 10k final one that is pure point value that shouldn't be granted to anyone at the current time.
Having got that rant out of the way, the new combat actions system is going to take a lot to get used to. Sentinel is also heavily weakened so can't use that anymore on NM fights. It feels like a new game in that everyone is jumping into this new action system blind, going to need to play with it a bit more to know if I like it, maybe start a new class and work from the ground up, I might like it more then.
Having got that rant out of the way, the new combat actions system is going to take a lot to get used to. Sentinel is also heavily weakened so can't use that anymore on NM fights. It feels like a new game in that everyone is jumping into this new action system blind, going to need to play with it a bit more to know if I like it, maybe start a new class and work from the ground up, I might like it more then.
Yeah, I've been holding off on starting up THM (or anything else) until this update, so I don't have to relearn multiple classes.
AlphaDragoon
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Yeah, I just said screw trying to learn the classes all over again at L50. Started over on Lindblum (my original character is on Trabia), character's name is Renault Cathetel.
Say hi if you see me, my guy is completely fresh so it's gonna be interesting.
Say hi if you see me, my guy is completely fresh so it's gonna be interesting.
give me a holla when u hit 15ish so we can pt
I updated http://www.ffxiv-db.com ...
- 2246 recipes total now (Most of the new recipes went to Leatherworker and Weaver. They have the ability to dye stuff easier now and each color change is a new recipe)
- Heres should be all the NEW items added in this version: http://www.ffxiv-db.com/revision.php?new=2011.12.14.0000 (new items do not include revised items)
Hmm, cant post an update to the official ffxiv-db.com thread as "Since the login to FINAL FANTASY XIV in the last 30 days could not be confirmed, you are not allowed to log in to the official FINAL FANTASY XIV forums." If someone can post that the DB is updated that would be appreciated. Also I am logged in game I don't know why that error came (and have been logging in regularly to prevent something like this).
also crowns:
- 2246 recipes total now (Most of the new recipes went to Leatherworker and Weaver. They have the ability to dye stuff easier now and each color change is a new recipe)
- Heres should be all the NEW items added in this version: http://www.ffxiv-db.com/revision.php?new=2011.12.14.0000 (new items do not include revised items)
Hmm, cant post an update to the official ffxiv-db.com thread as "Since the login to FINAL FANTASY XIV in the last 30 days could not be confirmed, you are not allowed to log in to the official FINAL FANTASY XIV forums." If someone can post that the DB is updated that would be appreciated. Also I am logged in game I don't know why that error came (and have been logging in regularly to prevent something like this).
also crowns:
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Jesus we got pwned by that astral flow lolz
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
OK, we can get to the astral flow stage fine now, it's just the part after that that kicks our asses now.
Munba
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So do i... dunno lol
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Done, was jinko image.
The only archivements who start from 0 are gathering/craft
For the rest prior data will count.
Unknown Soldier
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Wow, beaten on day 1 of patch. Squenix screwed that up big time.
When's the next patch going to be, anyways?
Supposedly in mid feb.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I see you thar (live stream)
And as for BG, they killed Mog legit. Good job!
And as for BG, they killed Mog legit. Good job!
oppss
Yup, alot closer. Dalamud is close to being the same size as the regular moon now.
Meh its Blue Gartr. They beat everything day one.
I'm usually on at random hours, but i've gotta hit 45-50 first.
If youre gonna be on tonight let me know before 6:30pm CST and I'll log in to help you get a party started.
SuperLurker
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The NM hunt for the moogle battle is some of the stupidest shit I've ever seen in an MMO. I can't believe anyone thought it would be a good idea. It's like they thought people were farming Ifrit too often so instead of making a much harder battle they put this stupid cockblock in front of the fight.
So in a content thin MMO you wanted a new boss battle that you could just accept the quest and go fight him right away?
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Anyone have any more impressions on the battle changes and combo system yet? Seems to be mostly positive on the official forums.
im down for that
It's pretty different, but I like it so far. The combo system is interesting, and I'd like to see where they go with it.
I think my only complaint with it so far is that you get the "combo" particle effect even when you don't actually have an ability that can possibly combo with it.
For example, I'm CNJ 39 - when I use Aero, I get the "combo" prompt... but I have no spells that it can actually combo with until 42.
SuperLurker
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The problem isn't "you have to do stuff", the problem is the stuff is stupid. They stack dozens of giant treant mobs all over the area and call it a day. Having to slow walk to not get 1 shot is not a fun mechanic that involves any sort of strategy, especially when treants will randomly kill people even when walking.
EDIT: Heck I'd even argue that this NM hunt acts more as a barrier to content than anything. See Rain's post about not being able to get the quest done last night. In the Ifrit fight anyone could go and grab some tapers if they wanted to do the fight. Here, you need to gather a full group and head down to the asshole of Eorzea and compete with all the other groups there to fight some regular mobs with more HP. Add in the cramped corridors of the Black Shroud with giant monsters that block your view and you're in for a crappy experience.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That made me laugh harder than it should have XD
Yeah, I think they need to ease up on the trees a bit. Their greatest weapon is lag.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
You sure you wanna do that? It's not as fast to get a rank 50 battle class anymore. Anyway I'll keep an eye out for you.
SuperLurker
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/display head off
Haha boy oh boy I slightly regret not doing Pug last week, but at the same time I'm super glad I got those other classes to 50 before hand.
Munba
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Btw i love the tips when you pass over the elements.. i can finally to know something about attributes lol. The new ui window about skills and talents is much more clear and simple to use. Also new spell casting animation and other effects are neat. Combos are a very nice addition.
No lvl 30 this time.
Try using the search to join a party I hear it works pretty good.
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