Most likely since alot of us have/had 1.0 characters. Shouldnt be bad imo since not everyone has classes/jobs at max level, gil is going to be reduced, and everyone will still be experiencing a new game right off the bat. I'm pretty optimistic about the whole thing since Yoshi and crew have been pretty spot on for the most part.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Final Fantasy XIV |OT2| ARR: Phase 4 August.
- Thread starter Jijidasu
- Start date
- Status
Most likely since alot of us have/had 1.0 characters. Shouldnt be bad imo since not everyone has classes/jobs at max level, gil is going to be reduced, and everyone will still be experiencing a new game right off the bat. I'm pretty optimistic about the whole thing since Yoshi and crew have been pretty spot on for the most part.
Heh, I just brought this up in the thread in the gaming forum. It definitely presents a conundrum for me.
Doesn't have to be.
Red Dot of Sargatanas is not the "neogaf linkshell" anymore and won't be in ARR, either. More of our members are not gaffers than are and we don't plan to be opening the proverbial floodgates. You can still apply with us if you don't mind playing on a legacy server, but we are mostly going straight to endgame as early as beta phase 4.
Chances are there will be a neogaf group on one of the fresh servers if you'd rather do that.
Speaking of end game stuff, arent companies supposed to be more of a clan thing? That being said, I think its going to be awhile before doing endgame since alot of that progress will have to be regained anyway?
Yes, we are planning to form a Free Company. Unaffiliated with neogaf. That doesn't mean we're slamming the door on anyone from neogaf, but it does mean we're not going to be "the neogaf group" so please don't advertise us as such to new players. We are just going to be one of many free companies on our server that happens to have a higher than average concentration of people that also have neogaf accounts among our ranks.
Oh yeah, of course. We did have a few extra LS near the end for stuff like that, so probably shouldnt have jumped the gun.
I agree with this. Before I returned to FFXI (Haven't been on for a while, meep!) I was on the other side of the fence about looping and thought it might be better to have looping in place but after spending a long time in one zone such as Gustaberg (which has music for those unfamiliar) it becomes a bit mind-numbing to hear it over and over.
The way they have it now will do more for the music, I'm sure.
[Edit] As Gromph mentioned, I'm continuing on with my JP LS on the JP server. Gromph and a few others will be with us and anyone else who can converse in Japanese a bit is more than welcome to join in (legacy server). Benefits include but not limited to: Housing, JP play-style (manners, you say!?) and incredibly long explanations in Japanese before you do anything.
Hey, not saying you can't join! No need to apologize, I'm sorry if I sounded too, uh blunt... D:
It's just that if what you're looking for is a neogaf group, especially of newer players, you won't find it with Red Dot. Our core membership is not from gaf and wasn't for months before 1.x went offline.
I didn't know Gromph understood Japanese.
I honestly don't know what I want to do anymore. I'd be right at home in a JP LS, but the time difference creates a big rift that would most likely get in the way of me being able to join activities, and that would really be a bummer.
I didn't know Gromph understood Japanese.
I honestly don't know what I want to do anymore. I'd be right at home in a JP LS, but the time difference creates a big rift that would most likely get in the way of me being able to join activities, and that would really be a bummer.
He's learning rapidly now, but there's a couple of people under my wing who I look out for best I can in the LS/FC haha.
You're more than welcome to join with us, not to mention there are always plenty of alternative shells on Japanese servers (people who work night shift and play in the mornings etc, I was one of those in order to get stuff done on my days off.)
A lot of people in Red Dot were also in various other linkshells, as is the norm for FF MMOs, so as some shells reform as FCs in ARR we're not sure what our membership is going to look like. Most gaffers quit the game or drifted to other shells. By the time I joined, I think we were less than half neogaf (I didn't even have a neogaf account at the time). By the time I became part of the leadership team, most of our active members weren't from gaf or even knew what it was, and those are the members that stuck together until the end of the world as we knew it. Some people who were in RD didn't really do stuff with us. Some RD members did and may be bringing friends in once ARR launches. One of our (non-gaf-member) leaders has had talks with another shell leader and we'll probably be absorbing them and their mostly-endgame group into our FC (if they're still planning to do that). It's kinda all up in the air at this point still. Except the part about being the official gaf group in ARR.
Linkshells will still likely be used as "sub communities" of a sort, but from what SE has said it sounds like they're really going to have incentives for actually doing events/dungeons/raids with your FC, not with people you know via linkshells.
Next phase or two of beta will help us get a better idea of how we're gonna organize things. Free Companies are gonna be in p3, right?
Robobandit
Member
Yes. They will be in phase 3
Ignore him - you're playing with us.
You'll just be in NeoBelieve, our GAF-affiliate linkshell, until we know you're going to stick around.
Ignore him - you're playing with us.
You'll just be in NeoBelieve, our GAF-affiliate linkshell, until we know you're going to stick around.
Thats what the name of it was! Couldnt think of that for the life of me.
theSlacker
Member
So any of these servers people are going to be on going to be east coast? As much as it would be nice to start knowing some people playing, I've started enough mmorpgs solo and am more willing to deal with that than unnecessary latency.
Well after re reading the last page or so I guess that's a moot question. Non legacy and can't speak Japanese. Oh well.
Well after re reading the last page or so I guess that's a moot question. Non legacy and can't speak Japanese. Oh well.
Ignore him - you're playing with us.
You'll just be in NeoBelieve, our GAF-affiliate linkshell, until we know you're going to stick around.
I joined up really late, but I had a great experience on NeoBelieve. Everyone was very helpful and made things a lot smoother. I also really liked the casual nature of it. I assume that is the intent for ARR as well?
That's where I'll be staying for sure.
Ignore him - you're playing with us.
You'll just be in NeoBelieve, our GAF-affiliate linkshell, until we know you're going to stick around.
Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned that.
In 1.x there was a second linkshell that neogaf members could join just by asking. It mostly just served as a chat channel, but also as a sort of trial ground for Red Dot membership where people (most people....) who didn't really display any commitment to the game were weeded out. Active people in this LS who didn't drive us nuts and displayed some drive were usually invited to Red Dot once they got to cap and showed an interest in doing events.
Good chance we'll be doing the same thing in ARR if there is a demand, so there may well be a primarily-gaf group on our server. But this will be a super-casual linkshell that Red Dot members will have little to do with, intended for people (who don't quit) to graduate out of (maybe into RD, maybe a different FC, who knows), not a long term commitment for anyone who wants to be a little more serious about endgame.
However, as I mentioned, if someone is looking for a fresh server, that's not where we'll be. I'm sure there will be something planned by new-server-gaffers for new-server-gaffers once we get closer to launch for people who are looking for that.
Edit:
Again, I'm not trying to chase people away really, I just don't want any false advertising. Just trying to be clear on the distinction that has grown as the RD community morphed through the lifetime of FFXIV 1.x into the not-really-gaf semi-hardcore-endgame group that it was when 1.x went down and that we plan to be in ARR as well. So that people don't try to join Red Dot looking for a concentration of neogaf members being really casual about the game and don't get what they were looking for. That's not to say that we're gonna just snub any newbies--and as was mentioned, yeah, we'll all be redoing quests and exploring the new world and stuff on our max level characters so we will be around to help out as well!
JustProgress
Member
Can someone explain the combat? To me it just looks like the toon sits there and waits for the GCD to expire as you roll through skills.
Have you played Final Fantasy XII?
JustProgress
Member
Yeah.
I'd say its kinda like that except a little faster paced. Also positioning and chaining together certain attacks for bonus benefits are the main focus.
And you only control one character.
Instead of programming the rest of your party, you ask them nicely to do smart things that don't make you die.
And, yeah, basic monsters are going to be a bit spammy - it's bosses and the like that will require more complicated strategies to defeat.
JustProgress
Member
Ok sounds good. Not that MMO-esque, I guess. Also the gameplay videos have some terrible players I guess, clicking skills and not positioning.
Are you just looking at that new ability video today, where the enemies don't even fight back?
That is not representative.
JustProgress
Member
No, no it was another trailer. Dungeon one I believe.
Eh, those are largely theatrical. E3 should provide some trailers that give a real glimpse of combat. But if you're ultimately looking for something that shakes the foundation of traditional MMO combat, you'll probably be disappointed.
Edit: Does someone have a link to that google doc with the gaf to user name table?
JustProgress
Member
Yeah hopefully I can see some real players play it soon.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...authkey=CMitxeUO&hl=en&authkey=CMitxeUO#gid=0
The really REALLY old one anyway.
Speculation time!
A friend of mine from my content LS on Durandal has come up with all sorts theories regarding Scholar etc and perhaps there might be yet another class. It also seems that in one of the images on his blog that there's 9 jobs yet only 8 soul crystal slots shown in yesterday's Live letter.
Alas, here is an image showing the classes, we have Arcanist icon + something we don't know. Does it look like a pistol? Hm..
Edit: made this:
Speculation go!
A friend of mine from my content LS on Durandal has come up with all sorts theories regarding Scholar etc and perhaps there might be yet another class. It also seems that in one of the images on his blog that there's 9 jobs yet only 8 soul crystal slots shown in yesterday's Live letter.
Alas, here is an image showing the classes, we have Arcanist icon + something we don't know. Does it look like a pistol? Hm..
Edit: made this:
Speculation go!
ZiZ
Member
check your PM
Yeah
which server is the jp server? i understand enough of japanese, and i can type in japanese too (learnt from my ff11 days), during beta 2 i partied with japanese often
lag wise they should be the better choice too since i live in south east asia
The servers haven't been confirmed yet but once something is announced I'll post something up here for you. By the looks of things the LS will be reformed into the FC which I or Darte will create and then everyone will join in. There's a fair bit of stuff to consider yet though.
Munba
Member
Translated Letter by Reinheart:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fhiMS69SJ84i3MvLCuyIS1ovv9FoHlQMLUFOb9PBe6I/edit
The housing part is very interesting. It seems you can create/build a LOT of stuff... also split a big room into several little ones to create bathrooms and bedrooms. :0
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fhiMS69SJ84i3MvLCuyIS1ovv9FoHlQMLUFOb9PBe6I/edit
The housing part is very interesting. It seems you can create/build a LOT of stuff... also split a big room into several little ones to create bathrooms and bedrooms. :0
=\
Ravidrath said:Ignore him - you're playing with us.
You'll just be in NeoBelieve, our GAF-affiliate linkshell, until we know you're going to stick around.
Who is in charge of NeoBelieve? I forgot. Eithne?
That's a good question! I don't know for sure so I can't answer for him but he still hangs out on mumble with us and seems to be still showing interest in ARR. He was playing PSO2 even before 1.x went offline, though, so maybe he'll be juggling both. If he doesn't post a reply here by tonight maybe I'll try to pry an answers out of him.
Ease up a bit, how so?
Edit:
Hmm? :?
He was the LS owner in 1.x, but the Red Dot leaders (Ravi and I) and a couple other people were all sackholders. He'll probably be the one primarily managing it in ARR, too, assuming he is able to get the PSO2 claws out of his soul.
Riposte
Member
Anyone else feel like they should switch their hairdos?
In that case, I'll probably end up joining that group. I don't have Legacy status.
Keep in mind you don't need Legacy status to start on a Legacy server.
- Status