Except they resolved the tease immediately and then walked it back like they do every other potential consequential death.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood |OT| Y'all Need to Calm Down
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Except they resolved the tease immediately and then walked it back like they do every other potential consequential death.
Would've been a great opportunity to get rid of a certain blonde /sigh
I'm pretty sure Gosetsu isn't a roe. Also
he was never dead and I don't believe for a second anyone thought he was when the game went out of its way to explain why there was no corpse. Unless a character goes cold in your goddamn arms they're coming back eventually.
If you mean Lyse, we aren't going to get any consequences from this raid in the main story until like 5.0 at the earliest. If you mean Nero, shame on you.
That's the whole point of what I'm saying. Square just can't let a character die in this game. Gosetsu had earned that in his character arc at that point.
Also, from letter XXXV
They straight up call him a roe during an early Kagune quest IIRC. I think it's when
they're looking for him.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
He's huge and red lol
skLaFarebear
Member
As soon as they said that there was no corpse, it was super obvious he was still alive tbh. It doesn't mean the impact of that moment isn't any lesser since it was easily one of the best FFXIV cutscenes until they completely walked back on it (still a great moment tho), but I can't be mad about more Yotsuyu tho.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
It baffled a lot of people when he was first introduced, yeah.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Still waiting for the day we can customize characters as half race breeds.
in 6.0
I just want more beard options. Let my Roe have a beard that isn't just a chinstrap that's not even connected to his hair...
Miqo'te/Au'ra waifu halfbreeds would taint the game in a way no amount of fire could cleanse. Plsno
Stone Ocean
Member
Screw half breeds, whens normal size Elezen
Duh, thank you.
adversarial
Member
Tanked all 4 Datascapes yesterday, pretty fun. ExDeath was awesome. Loved the GAF group.
I'm looking to tank for a static group whose interested in doing Savage weekly, or whatever the lockout is. I'm new to FFXIV but I've tanked in WoW since around 2004 and have hovered around Top 50-100 depending on expansion. I play DRK but will level PLD or WAR if either of those are absolutely necessary.
I'm looking to tank for a static group whose interested in doing Savage weekly, or whatever the lockout is. I'm new to FFXIV but I've tanked in WoW since around 2004 and have hovered around Top 50-100 depending on expansion. I play DRK but will level PLD or WAR if either of those are absolutely necessary.
Why do people hate Lyse so much? I never thought she did anything bad. Being a relatively bland character doesn't mean that she should die.
Plus I have to admit she looks great in that dress. ._.
Look Nero may be a shit-eating asshole but he's a lovable shit-eating asshole!
Stone Ocean
Member
Because she's forced down our throats when all she did for the expac was whine that people didn't want to fight when she asked them to
Hey can you spare people for the resistance
No
HOW DARE YOU
Our Crimson Liberator, everyone. Go sit in front of the other leaders as if you were more important. It's ok, she milked some sheep, she earned it.
Ha ha. That would be crazy.
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Red didn't liberate anything, don't spread lies.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
All Lyse haters must be Taru lovers. That would explain the bad taste!
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
I have enough room in my heart to hate everyone thanks!
LordKasual
Banned
I feel like the game had no shortage of dialogue questioning how she ended up being a defacto leader. Alisaie in particular was always quite vocal about this.
It's also worth mentioning that although Lyse has always come off as a bit of a ditz, she's still one of the most capable fighters in the MSQ.
She's been soloing Garlean elites since 2.0.
Seijuro
Member
You even have to complete all the Heavensward content too to access the new areas.
Eh she was in the
right place at the right time and that's a perfectly valid way to gain power. I mean barely anyone else even wanted to fight so it's not like the field was that crowded. As much as I think she's a lame character, her becoming the leader isn't really that questionable to me. Someone suggest Raubahn but he has a job already.
LordKasual
Banned
Yeah, that last bit is really the key point when you think about it.
* I just rationalize Lyse as a character that the Scions just kind of point in the direction that they needed her, but she's most effective in Stormblood's MSQ because all of her weakpoints as a Scion (intelligence, tactics) are sort of already covered given the setting.
So as far as the story goes, she really is the most capable character for the role. She's still no tactician (which is why her role always seems so awkward) but as far as warriors go, your next best choice would be Raubahn, which is out of the question.
Any other time Lyse/Yda has had a role in the MSQ, she's had Pap to point her in the right direction, but in the Ala Mhigo situation, she's just self-motivated and already invested. I guess that's what Stormblood was aiming for.
Also...
I was really hoping that
Lyse got a new mask to wear after the Stormblood events. It took me half the story to realize that the reason she seemed like such a different character wasn't because of her dialogue, but because you can actually see her facial expressions now.
To add to this, Lyse also has a history with the resistance, I mean this is where she was during Heavansward. She is also a Scion, which apparently is a big deal and carries a ton of wright with the people in power. Also, her father was a Ben Franklin type figure with the resistance, and Raubahn supported her.
LordKasual
Banned
I....completely forgot about this lol.
They knew Yda and her father, not even the new Lyse version of Yda. You're going to have to point to me a scene where they're talking about Lyse-Yda.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Lyse-Yda and Papalymo were in Rhalgar's Reach for much of Heavensward.
Look.
Your alternatives are Hamon Holyfist, a drunkard who needed like 4 quests before he could punch a dummy properly, or the guy whose name I can't remember but is a complete dumbass monk that actually got scammed by catgirls.
Stick with Lyse.
LordKasual
Banned
She does carry weight because she is a Scion. Lyse wasn't twiddling her thumbs before the events of Stormblood, and she had been putting in work for the cause under the guise of someone else.
Yeah, she's going to look ditzy in the company of characters like Y'shtola or Alphinaud...but it's not like she doesn't have her proven set of qualities about her.
And as far as people to take into combat with you? Lyse is probably the best standup duelist in the squad, outside the Warrior of Light.
I really want to say Thancred, but he's been gotten kinda nerfed since Heavensward unfortunately
Stone Ocean
Member
Or you know, M'Naago, the leader's right hand woman who has been bleeding for the resistance for much longer than her and actually got some shit done.
LordKasual
Banned
You think M'Naago has a higher capacity for getting shit done than Lyse?
Stone Ocean
Member
From a soldier standpoint? No.
From a leadership position? God yes.
Mechanized
Member
Why is the text size in the NPC dialogue so tiny? Whew. Was playing this in bed on my TV last night and lost about 5 hours to the game, had a lot of fun. But man I have very little idea of what all the quests are about because I can't read shit.
So we have:
k, maybe she'll do something in later patches that makes her seem more competent, but for now, eh.
Nanamo who through some strange convoluted plan of having her "die" tries to pull her people out from under the thumb of the syndicate.
Alymeric who tried to fight his father himself, made a peace accords with dragons, etc
Hien who put an entire steppe, band of pirates and peasant uprising under his control to storm his own castle in a plan of his own creation.
And Lyse, who tried really, really hard and did "some stuff" in the background of HW that no one can really nail down.
And Lyse, who tried really, really hard and did "some stuff" in the background of HW that no one can really nail down.
k, maybe she'll do something in later patches that makes her seem more competent, but for now, eh.
Pyros_Eien
Member
You can change it in the options, they messed up with the defaults or whatever in Stormblood but you can set it back they added it with 4.01. Assuming that's PS4 version.
As for Lyse, the story actually explains decently why she ends up where she ends up. The old man
before he dies
the revolution/resistance, not leader of Ala Mhigo as far as I understood. She doesn't actually become someone really important, relatively speaking. Not yet at least.
Also for people who hate her, her new role might actually phase her out of the story eventually, so that's a plus.
I never felt that M'naago was a leader-- a good number 2. Plus M'naago doesn't have the pedigree and support that Luse/Yda has. And that is just as important as leadership qualities because without Raubhan/the Scions there is no liberation.
Heavensward does have the luxury of 2 years of patch content when we talk about its plotlines and characters too.
The criticisms of Lyse I can definitely see but for patch content
The criticisms of Lyse I can definitely see but for patch content
Ala Mhigo is pretty much left without a government. Doma is in pretty solid hands but is probably more vulnerable to imperial counter attack though. But I didn't get the impression that Lyse was left as first in line for leader of Ala Mhigo, just a strong soldier in the right place fighting with the right people with a family history. If she does take on more figurehead roles I think she has room to develop and earn it in the 4.x series.