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[Alex]

Man, I don't even know if I could find a way to vent that much MP on Susano. I healed it for the first time earlier and there's no real GCD need in the first half of the fight (barring untimely dice fails or people playing in the sea) so it's mostly just DPSing until post ultimate with an early Lucid and Thin Air to get their cooldowns rolling while staying at 80-90% MP. I did it as WHM but AST can basically do the same and even extend their first Lucid when extending their pre-pull card anyway and have that cover the first half of the fight. I basically just threw rocks for sword phase and let the AST handle most the GCD burden with shields / Earthly Star while I let a pre-cast Med 2 and oGCDs handle anything else. Because I had rocks to throw.

After tanking a bunch of Susanos in PF, I kind of just assumed the MP situation was more dire than it ended up being when I got around to healing it. From the WHM side of it, Lucid is up pretty often, Assize is up a lot, and Thin Air handles any actual GCD burn time (that I tended to waste on DPSing because I get antsy sitting on cooldowns) so it seems pretty hard to actually run out of MP.

Susano is mechanically in the ballpark of Titan but with an attrition style DPS check rather than a Patchwerk. The fight is largely on the backs of the DPS, they will either do their job or you will slowly lose the fight even if you're managing to tread water.

Issue is that there are a *lot* of really poor PF DPS, people literally pulling half the damage (or less) than they should be doing which is why pug experiences with Susano swing so widely.

MP is only as dire as these groups make it, although even in a poor group I don't know how you'd hit the ult phase with low mana like that unless multiple people are biting it before the transition, even on AST or SCH. WHM is tuned to have the highest throughput and longevity, so it is going to suffer somewhat less problems with core things like that regardless.

 

[Stuart444]

What should I be melding as a Red Mage? Not spell speed I assume so... Crit and Direct hit? What should I be prioritizing, etc.

 

[Ozigizo]

We must have been in the same party. I saw that exact excuse used.

It was probably the same dude just bouncing after a wipe or two.

 

[Trojita]

Servers up apparently.

Time for bed. Night GAF

 

[BlackJace]

SCH 69. I'm so close to endgame, I can taste it
10.1 million experience to get to 70 though, woof.

 

[Haly]

What should I be melding as a Red Mage? Not spell speed I assume so... Crit and Direct hit? What should I be prioritizing, etc.

I've heard Crit/DH from the Red Mage discord.

 

[Donthizz#]

25 Lakshmi runs, not a single mount drop.

 

[Xux]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/02cb1ca61196bcb176574748b7735b2fcaa6e111

■The following adjustment has been made:
･To alleviate Duty Finder congestion, the Adventurer in Need bonus for Duty Roulette: Leveling will now grant additional rewards.
･Additional Reward:
Cracked Cluster

*Participation as Disciple of War or Magic of level 60 or higher is required.
*"Cracked Cluster" is scheduled to be displayed in the Adventurer in Need reward section in Patch 4.05.

 

[Bowlie]

■The following adjustment has been made:
･To alleviate Duty Finder congestion, the Adventurer in Need bonus for Duty Roulette: Leveling will now grant additional rewards.
･Additional Reward:
Cracked Cluster

*Participation as Disciple of War or Magic of level 60 or higher is required.
*"Cracked Cluster" is scheduled to be displayed in the Adventurer in Need reward section in Patch 4.05.

RIP materia market

 

[Redx508]

nice!!

 

[Guess Who]

I should probably relearn how to play DRK for those free VIs.

 

[Haly]

Bandaid solution to systematic problem, but this is just FFXIV all over.

Hunts is still a better use of my time than leveling roulette.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/02cb1ca61196bcb176574748b7735b2fcaa6e111

Doesn't seem very useful for DPS

 

[Redx508]

Bandaid solution to systematic problem, but this is just FFXIV all over.

Hunts is still a better use of my time than leveling roulette.

 

[Stuart444]

Doesn't seem very useful for DPS

Exactly

 

[Berordn]

Doesn't seem very useful for DPS

The goal in rewarding tanks is that they'll queue often and bring wait times down for everyone.

WoW does something similar, but their version also awarded mounts and pets for a while.

 

[Haly]

Also as far as I can tell it's the daily bonus, not a constant bonus.

Anyone doing Leveling roulette would've already been using their tank for the instant queues, so this does fuck all to entice them unless they were skipping the roulette entirely, and I can still farm clusters faster just paying attention to my huntshell.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Also as far as I can tell it's the daily bonus, not a constant bonus.

Anyone doing Leveling roulette would've already been using their tank for the instant queues, so this does fuck all to entice them unless they were skipping the roulette entirely, and I can still farm clusters faster just paying attention to my huntshell.

This is the Adventurer in Need bonus, which means it'll always apply for whatever role is in need, usually tank.

 

[Haly]

This is the Adventurer in Need bonus, which means it'll always apply for whatever role is in need, usually tank.

Well I just checked leveling roulette now as tank (because Tanks are always In Need) and I see no cluster so either it's a UI error or...

 

[Squishy3]

Well I just checked leveling roulette now as tank and I see no cluster so either it's a UI error or...

something something read patch notes

*Participation as Disciple of War or Magic of level 60 or higher is required.
*"Cracked Cluster" is scheduled to be displayed in the Adventurer in Need reward section in Patch 4.05.

 

[Bowlie]

Well I just checked leveling roulette now as tank (because Tanks are always In Need) and I see no cluster so either it's a UI error or...

It's gonna appear in 4.05, it's in the patch notes

 

[Haly]

something something read patch notes

I didn't realize this wasn't 4.05!

 

[Qvoth]

That means 7 confirmed materia 6s per week, holy crap

Edit: just realized it's adventure in need bonus, not daily bonus... That means only tanks will get it :/

 

[Frumix]

Also as far as I can tell it's the daily bonus, not a constant bonus.

Anyone doing Leveling roulette would've already been using their tank for the instant queues, so this does fuck all to entice them unless they were skipping the roulette entirely, and I can still farm clusters faster just paying attention to my huntshell.

It's a constant bonus. Get on your paladong and get all the VI materia you ever want.

 

[CheesecakeRecipe]

That means 7 confirmed materia 6s per week, holy crap

Edit: just realized it's adventure in need bonus, not daily bonus... That means only tanks will get it :/

Currently set to healers, at least for me?

 

[Haly]

Currently set to healers, at least for me?

Probably all the FOTM paladins trying to get in their VI farm. Anyway going to give it a test run, hope I don't get Aurum Vale.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

It flips between tank and healer. Haven't seen DPS come up in the past two years lol

 

[Meciu]

That means 7 confirmed materia 6s per week, holy crap

Edit: just realized it's adventure in need bonus, not daily bonus... That means only tanks will get it :/

You can get as many as you want as long as you queue as the role in need.

Edit: beaten.

 

[Qvoth]

Hahaha it's not a daily bonus?
Mat 6 prices will drop like a fucking meteor
I'll probably use my sch whenever I see a healer in need

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

What's the most enjoyable tank right now?

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

It flips between tank and healer. Haven't seen DPS come up in the past two years lol

I saw DPS once. I couldn't believe my eyes.

 

[Luigi87]

I saw DPS once. I couldn't believe my eyes.

As a Healer main... I've seen DPS more times than I've seen Healer. It's like fate doesn't want me to be in Need.

 

[Gattsu25]

As a Healer main... I've seen DPS more times than I've seen Healer. It's like fate doesn't want me to be in Need.

As a DPS main, I've only seen Healer In Need once, have never seen DPS In Need, and almost exclusively see Tank In Need.

 

[duckroll]

I'm a DPS, I've seen DPS in Need on Trail and Guildheists before. Never on the others. It's almost always Tank. Never saw Healers either.

 

[ubercheez]

To alleviate Duty Finder congestion, the Adventurer in Need bonus for Duty Roulette: Leveling will now grant additional rewards.

But don't worry guys, our data shows that tanks and healers don't jump ship to DPS when new expansions come out.

 

[Haly]

Yah it works. If VI prices stabilize at 100,000g then leveling roulette will give you approximately 4000g per minute. I think the final price will be a lower than that though.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

A lot of these issues to the fixed trinity, uniformed job design, comes fron 2.0.

The idea of different types of tanks died when WAR 2.0 sucked so much, that they just made him similar to PLD.

Pure support job died when ppl where just stacking 2 BRD for most fights.

They clearly decided that the way to avoid most balance headaches was to make a more rigid trinity system.

Is obviously the team fault, and they definetly needs to make it so tanks feels more different, but I feel the initial intention was to make it less rigid.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

The news post makes it sound it's already in and only the UI thing is coming later, but ppl saying they're not getting the cracked clusters? Maybe it'll start after today's reset?

Anyway sounds nice, kinda. Would be better if it also worked on 50/60 queue, since that's a queue that generally takes longer for me as a DPS, and a lot of the MSQ stuff is in there too.

 

[Orcastar]

Yah it works. If VI prices stabilize at 100,000g then leveling roulette will give you approximately 4000g per minute. I think the final price will be a lower than that though.

I knew I made a mistake leveling WHM instead of DRK in SB...

 

[Ashodin]

OK sylphs are kind of cute

 

[Mystic Theurge]

The "team of adventurers" has been mentioned before as a narrative justification for multiplayer trials/dungeons, but Stormblood lampshaded it more than the story has done previously. I was especially amused when after Susano showed up Lyse said, "The Warrior of Light has a lot of adventurer friends - who knows? Maybe some of them randomly decided to take a fishing trip to the East." Pfft.

Spoiler

That line and "Wisdom and Foresight" excuse that pops up throughout Stormblood are just in the English version.

The other languages don't make mention of it.

 

[Frumix]

Spoiler

That line and "Wisdom and Foresight" excuse that pops up throughout Stormblood are just in the English version.

The other languages don't make mention of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI

 

[royox]

I have a very NOOB question.

When I cast some spell (as BLM, SMN, RDM...) I see I can move when the cast bar is more or less at 90% and the fire/verfire/etc will be fired while I'm moving (helping A LOT at dodging aoes while keeping the damage up)

Is that a feature or I have a lot of lag?

 

[PleaseBeGentle_]

I have a very NOOB question.

When I cast some spell (as BLM, SMN, RDM...) I see I can move when the cast bar is more or less at 90% and the fire/verfire/etc will be fired while I'm moving (helping A LOT at dodging aoes while keeping the damage up)

Is that a feature or I have a lot of lag?

Feature, you can queue up actions this way too. pressing an action in the last couple of % will execute that action afterwards.

U can't do this with macros alas.

 

[Hentailover]

Is that a feature or I have a lot of lag?

I think it's honestly both. As in, it's a feature that is brought upon by unherent latency. Doesn't mean you have "a lot" of it tho

 

[Silav101]

I have a very NOOB question.

When I cast some spell (as BLM, SMN, RDM...) I see I can move when the cast bar is more or less at 90% and the fire/verfire/etc will be fired while I'm moving (helping A LOT at dodging aoes while keeping the damage up)

Is that a feature or I have a lot of lag?

Pretty much a feature due to how the engine works. Some peepz call it slidecasting, mastering it is the hallmark of great spellcasting (healing and dps'ing).

 

[Orcastar]

Pretty much a feature due to how the engine works. Some peepz call it slidecasting, mastering it is the hallmark of great spellcasting (healing and dps'ing).

In most strategy videos I've watched, people just hammer the buttons instead of trying to time it correctly.

 

[R0ckman]

Compared to ARR and Heavenwards I do think that Stormblood tries to humble the WoL a bit.

Spoiler

Few of the natives seem to know or care who you are. You suffer the two losses to Zenos. They even let Alphinuad /Alisae beat you over the head with how stupid it was to go after him that second time. And, maybe I just didnt notice it before, but there seems to be a lot more mention of your "mysterious team of adventurers". Though by the end you are back to being super awesome.

The humbling wasn't even authentic to me. In terms of Zenos

Spoiler

not having the natural talent or power to fight you, he had to be genteically enhanced to barely be better than you, as you could still break his weapons and armor confronting him. The game did a terrible job at trying to humble the player. Almost rolled my eyes when I found out Zenos' powers were fake.

 

[Omnicent]

Welp getting infinite 90002 when trying to login to the game.
Seems most people outside of NA connection to NA data-centers have this issue, but I live in the US. Guess I'll boot up via Battle Ping till there is a solution.

 

[R0ckman]

Even a little faster GP regeneration helps when you're fishing, at least.

Was going to post this lol