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[DPtheGod]

So I need to watch Kingsglaive > Brotherhood > read this prologue > then game ?

Yeah that should do it!

 

[Renae]

Really sorry guys, I'll be more careful next time !

 

[Rarius]

Yeah, how is there not a toggle lock on? Fucking Kingdom Hearts had that

 

[cackhyena]

Did anyone else read the prologue for the game?

If not, check it out.
It's meant to show off what the bros are doing up until the point the game starts. Kind of gives off a Brotherhood vibe.

Why is this a thing? Man, for as long as this took, it still could have used a little more baking.

 

[Socivol]

Jesus fuck..
DO NOT FUCKING CLICK THIS IF YOU ARE NOT DONE THE GAME.


Put "end game spoilers"

I'm fucking gone. fuck this fucking shit.

That doesn't even happen at or near the end of the game though so why would you put end game spoilers on there?

 

[Disagree Guy]

I will say this: It is very easy to click on spoiler tags when scrolling down with your thumb on a cell phone.

Did it happen to you too??

The pain

 

[GinoFelino]

I look forward to people saying the journey of the bros is the story...

Game really doesn't like context so far. Yeesh.

I actually said just that.

Not in an apologetic way though. Just saying people generally underestimate such elements when talking about 'story'.

A lot of people think plot is everything, completely underestimating the value of how 'the journey' (dialogue, banter, bonding, the characters you meet, etc.) factors into what we perceive as story or narrative.

In FF15, you could argue the journey is the plot/story, and your enjoyment of the characters and their rapport is a clear sign of its quality.

 

[Android18a]

What am I missing? Why can't I heal fully? Why can't I use potions outside of battle?

You should be able to do both. If your MAX HP is reduced, it'll gradually regenerate outside of dungeons and battle, otherwise you can use Elixirs to restore the Max HP. The R2 item menu should let you use healing items at any time you would need to, make sure you're not on the chocobo/moogle menus by pressing left or right on the item menu.

 

[Ydelnae]

I am lv 19 in Chapter 3 and the Niflheim soldiers that rain from the sky are hard to beat. The story mission level is 10. Maybe I should come back to Duscae later.

 

[brawly]

I wanted to get a Pro bundle but it's sold out (Switzerland), so I said fuck it and bought the game. I'll play it on the OG and decide then whether it's good enough or not for me.

 

[Gbraga]

I look forward to people saying the journey of the bros is the story...

Game really doesn't like context so far. Yeesh.

I don't think that's a wrong thing to say, tbh.

There's a lot of information available in the game, but most of the things told to you through cutscenes are the ones directly related to the journey of the bros.

This is just what I noticed in chapter 1, before going to Galdin Quay for the first time:

- Lucis is a kingdom, Niflheim is an empire, they're at war
- You're the prince of Lucis
- Iedolas Aldercapt, emperor of Niflheim, is visiting Insomnia, Crown City of Lucis, to sign a ceasefire in the upcoming days
- The terms of this treaty are:
1) Lucis must surrender every area beyond the walls of Insomnia, namely Leide, Duscae and Cleigne
2) The Prince of Lucis and the Princess of Tenebrae are to marry, as a symbol of peace. This marriage will take place in Altissia
- The people are not too happy about this, but they don't seem to be angry either, and it's understandable, just look around in Leide. Lucis has gone to shit outside of Insomnia, the war tore the place apart. Insomnia was kept safe by the power of the magic barrier
- Nights are getting longer, and daemons roam the lands at night. This event is known as the Plague of the Stars, and will play a major role in the world of Eos. Wildlife is already being affected and mutated by it, even during the day
- Noctis and Luna know each other since they were children, it's been 12 years since they saw each other, but they still write. Even though it was a marriage by convenience, neither seems unhappy about it, just a bit nervous
- Luna is also the current Oracle, the one who communes with the Astrals, who are gods in this world, said to slumber to gather power in order to fight the Starscourge
- The Crystal of Lucis has a will of its own, and lends its power to the worthy heir to the throne through the Ring of the Lucii

Best use of heavy weapons I have found at low-level is to swap to them before doing a massive warpstrike then hitting once (since if done right it will stagger most enemies), and after swapping to to something else, like I dunno, tri-cast high-potency Thunder.

I personally really like to do one hit with a fast weapon, pause and switch to the greatsword and press attack again to do Tempest.

You can also press guard instead of just waiting during that pause, it stops you from doing a backstep and also covers your ass in case you get attacked.

Almost instant Tempest. Does huge damage and stuns those quick enemies that surround you.

 

[Skilletor]

Sure. I'm talking about what the game chooses to emphasise though. Not using it as an excuse for weak plotting. I probably didn't make myself clear enough.

I getchoo!

I knew I was in love with Prompto when he hummed the FF theme after we won a battle.

 

[Hystzen]

Not as bad as the skull and bones pictures on his shirt around his neck. What prince would wear such a terrible t-shirt?

A skull is also on the pocket of his shorts also I had double take when saw it when I had him in no jacket attire

 

[cackhyena]

I actually said just that.

Not in an apologetic way though. Just saying people generally underestimate such elements when talking about 'story'.

Like, yes to a degree there's something to draw from that. And I'll admit they really do act like a group of friends which is nice. But the game is trying in fits and starts to tell you things and it does so (at least so far for me) terribly. Just not cohesive. So far to its benefit, it overcomes that shortcoming, but it is a shortcoming. Luckily cracking heads is damn good gun.

 

[valkyre]

is any of the game's content locked (ie you cant go back and do it) after a point in the story?

Please no spoilers, extremely sensitive geek here.

 

[Disagree Guy]

The easter eggs to previous FF games are brilliant.

Did anyone else notice the charm attached to Crow's phone in Kingsglaive?

Lol Ultros

 

[mauaus]

IM still on Chapter 1 should i be hoarding XP?
Is there a way to wait for daytime without camping?

 

[Hystzen]

The easter eggs to previous FF games are brilliant.

Did anyone else notice the charm attached to Crow's phone in Kingsglaive?

Lol Ultros

I want that charm for my house keys

 

[Gbraga]

is any of the game's content locked (ie you cant go back and do it) after a point in the story?

Please no spoilers, extremely sensitive geek here.

As far as I know, nope. You're free to advance the main story and leave side stuff to do later.

 

[j-wood]

So is there really no way to scan enemies without turning on wait mode? Is there a hotkey option instead of pausing the games and going through menus?

That's my only beef with the game so far.

 

[kayos90]

Strongly disagree. Small quick enemies act just like... small quick enemies. Lots of ways to deal with them. Stay in defensive mode until an opening. Warp in and out. Use big sword after a dodge for a big AOE counter, group em and drop a fire bomb on em. Bro's abilities too. I think this is good encounter design, although of course it can be irritating at times.

It's not good. If you try to melee normally on a battle with 6 enemies or more then it becomes a massive clusterfuck. If you want good encounter design then KH2 is perfect for that as a comparison. Warping in and out absolutely breaks combat pacing and while it's good for recovery to escape a bad situation, it should not be a viable solution for every single time you get swarmed in a single fight. That's bad design. In addition, the big sword is so slow that it doesn't allow for you to be effective in fights especially since attacks stagger you mid-animation. This wouldn't be an issue if you had super-armor, but you don't. Encounters are bad. Straight up.

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

I will say this: It is very easy to click on spoiler tags when scrolling down with your thumb on a cell phone.

This happened to me just now

 

[DarkLordMalik]

So is there really no way to scan enemies without turning on wait mode? Is there a hotkey option instead of pausing the games and going through menus?

That's my only beef with the game so far.

Ignis has his analysis skill but not sure how it works. It does show the stats when he use it.

 

[kayos90]

Also why are people still saying Plague of the Stars. The prologue specifically says Starscourge....

 

[Gbraga]

It's not good. If you try to melee normally on a battle with 6 enemies or more then it becomes a massive clusterfuck. If you want good encounter design then KH2 is perfect for that as a comparison. Warping in and out absolutely breaks combat pacing and while it's good for recovery to escape a bad situation, it should not be a viable solution for every single time you get swarmed in a single fight. That's bad design. In addition, the big sword is so slow that it doesn't allow for you to be effective in fights especially since attacks stagger you mid-animation. This wouldn't be an issue if you had super-armor, but you don't. Encounters are bad. Straight up.

I don't think he means warp out to escape the battle, just warp without locking on for positioning, instead of warp striking.

And use the big sword's Tempest mid combo or with specific faster moves, like crush, counter or the air move. Having blink (?) unlocked is also very useful to cancel any Greatsword attack.

Also why are people still saying Plague of the Stars. The prologue specifically says Starscourge....

I didn't play the prologue in english, my bad.

 

[Lights and Waves]

It seems like the consensus so far on this game is that it's good, some parts of it are even excellent, but overall it's not close to the best FF or anything(as subjective as that is).

So it had me wondering what Square can do to make an FF game where people go "Whoa! This game is an all-timer! Best FF ever!) I haven't heard anyone say that about an FF title in a long time.

Can it even happen?

I think it can. I'm all for trying new ideas, but maybe they need to find a foundation and stick with it instead of trying something totally new in almost every entry. This way they can build on something and keep improving it rather than starting from square one again.

Just some thoughts.

The only thing that doesn't feel right about the game so far is the lack of story. It's a Final Fantasy game – the focus should be the story. I want a million cutscenes.

That being said, I fucking love it so far.

 

[kayos90]

I don't think he means warp out to escape the battle, just warp without locking on for positioning, instead of warp striking.

And use the big sword's Tempest mid combo or with specific faster moves, like crush, counter or the air move. Having blink (?) unlocked is also very useful to cancel any Greatsword attack.

That's how I interpreted the statement.

 

[Venom Fox]

I will say this: It is very easy to click on spoiler tags when scrolling down with your thumb on a cell phone.

Yep I agree.

Sometimes while scrolling if I don't scroll quick enough, my Galaxy reveals the spoilers.
Clicked on one earlier on but luckily spotted it and clicked my home button. Had to close the Internet app and quickly press on new tab.
Why should I have to to do that shit? Im here to read and and discuss, not dodge spoilers!

The spoiler was also very clearly end or late game considering it said "MAJOR SPOILERS DON'T CLICK". #Post 5169... looking at you.

Shit like that should be relegated to the spoiler thread. It's there for a reason for fuck sake. I know we aren't allowed to call for bans and such but I've waited 10 years for this game and if I get spoiled in here of all places I'll commit crimes against the world I swear.

 

[toastyToast]

IM still on Chapter 1 should i be hoarding XP?
Is there a way to wait for daytime without camping?

You'd have to do stuff overnight. I don't think there's a way to pass time without resting. You can hoard a fair chunk of XP. The motel on the south eastern section of the map in chapter one gives 1.5x multiplier. Something to keep in mind is that if a chapter ends your XP gets used up

 

[Jeffrey]

played the game for like 2 hours. Just not feeling the combat? Like, maybe ill get used to it later but enemies basically have near instant attack animations making it not the easiest to predict when to evade so get knocked on my ass often.

Can you not cancel an attack into 'press square to guard'?


Also how do you warp strike into enemies from the ground? it seems like even if I lock on noct doesn't target the enemy. Seems to only work if i'm warped above somewhere.


How do I use party moves like 'regroup'? Can I map those techniques?

 

[digitalrelic]

So,

This game is super cheesy, has some awkward dialogue writing and delivery, has stuttery performance, has some weird outdated tropes, and is littered with strange little glitches and graphical anomalies...

And I love it. I can't get enough of it and I can't stop thinking about getting back home to play it. It has brings forth this wonderful sense of nostalgia for me. I feel like a little kid playing this game. It's brilliant.

 

[guybrushfreeman]

IM still on Chapter 1 should i be hoarding XP?
Is there a way to wait for daytime without camping?

You will overlevel very quickly doing hunts and side quests. Try not to worry about it

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Enemy encounter design in the field is absolute garbage. Who thought it was good design to have swift moving targets all swarm on you and there is a very limited cheesy way to deal with it. Combat system is good but gotdamn the fucking encounters are dogshit.

It's absolute trash, encounter design and camera is what holds back the game the most

 

[DPtheGod]

Hey guys, mild spoilers. Need help.

Spoiler

Which hotel, and how early, can trigger the scene overnight with Noctis and Prompto?

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Is there supposed to be a sound when Magitek ships appear? They're dead silent, even though characters will call them out.

 

[robotzombie]

Is there anything in particular that should/must be done before beating the game? Otherwise I kind of just want to beat it first and then go back and finish up all the quests and whatnot.

There's nothing that changes the ending or unlocks some "true" ending or anything is there?

 

[Gbraga]

played the game for like 2 hours. Just not feeling the combat? Like, maybe ill get used to it later but enemies basically have near instant attack animations making it not the easiest to predict when to evade so get knocked on my ass often.

Can you not cancel an attack into 'press square to guard'?


Also how do you warp strike into enemies from the ground? it seems like even if I lock on noct doesn't target the enemy. Seems to only work if i'm warped above somewhere.


How do I use party moves like 'regroup'? Can I map those techniques?

You have to unlock a skill to cancel animations into guard, it's called Blink, IIRC.

Lock-on + warp should work. Can you test a different controller? Maybe your R1 is faulty. Or try the hard lock with R1 + R3, if it still doesn't work for warp strikes, then it's definitely a glitch.

L1 + D-pad for party moves.

 

[ViolentP]

Woke up an hour and a half before having to go to work this morning and decided to hop back into the game. My very first action was "Justice Monsters Five? What's that?"

Next thing I knew it was time to leave for work.

 

[Medicated]

Is there supposed to be a sound when Magitek ships appear? They're dead silent, even though characters will call them out.

I feel like there is a lot of cases where the sound is wonky in this game. Too many times the game is just eerily quiet with no music or sounds. I swear I heard a ship approaching once and after that nada.

 

[Venom Fox]

Is there supposed to be a sound when Magitek ships appear? They're dead silent, even though characters will call them out.

Was thinking that myself. Was trying to listen for a kind of hum sound like you'd expect. Oh well. Prompto always notifies me anyway lol.

 

[BearPawB]

Boy those groups of soldiers in duscae are no joke

 

[Projenitor]

Im new to these types of games

Dungeons mean you cant save or use health potions right?
Because im in one now and its not letting me do either.

 

[Disagree Guy]

Boy those groups of soldiers in duscae are no joke

Lol level 31 they are....

I just warp into them and hold circle (attack for me)

They barely scratch me

 

[YankeeDonB]

It's not good. If you try to melee normally on a battle with 6 enemies or more then it becomes a massive clusterfuck. If you want good encounter design then KH2 is perfect for that as a comparison. Warping in and out absolutely breaks combat pacing and while it's good for recovery to escape a bad situation, it should not be a viable solution for every single time you get swarmed in a single fight. That's bad design. In addition, the big sword is so slow that it doesn't allow for you to be effective in fights especially since attacks stagger you mid-animation. This wouldn't be an issue if you had super-armor, but you don't. Encounters are bad. Straight up.

We have a fundamental disagreement on how combat flow should work it seems. I'd prefer it to be highly variable and grounded in different kinds of encounters. That I have to use different tactics when fighting tuskers vs dual horns makes those fights feel meaningfully different and interesting to me.

In old FF tuskers would have had high random evasion. Now they're just hard to get ahold of. It's a realization of something that used to be abstract.

Also, more practically speaking, I've had no problem with the big swords in these types of encounters. Just have to switch to them at the right moment, I,e, not try to get into a smooth flow.

I'm fairly sour on KH. The different enemies all tended to blur together to me, and although Sora controls smoothly, I never found fights that engaging. Mind you, I never finished 1 or 2, and definitely didn't master the combat.

 

[GinoFelino]

So,

This game is super cheesy, has some awkward dialogue writing and delivery, has stuttery performance, has some weird outdated tropes, and is littered with strange little glitches and graphical anomalies...

And I love it. I can't get enough of it and I can't stop thinking about getting back home to play it. It has brings forth this wonderful sense of nostalgia for me. I feel like a little kid playing this game. It's brilliant.

That's because this game has personality, and personality has been sorely lacking from many AAA games released this past decade.

Is there supposed to be a sound when Magitek ships appear? They're dead silent, even though characters will call them out.

True. They're probably silent because they appear so often and it'd be a very disruptive sound.

 

[InternHertz]

Im new to these types of games

Dungeons mean you cant save or use health potions right?
Because im in one now and its not letting me do either.

Save, indeed unless there's a specific point for that.

Health you should be able. Are you sure you're not trying to get your max HP back instead? Potions only work on "grey" health bars, not on black health bars. Black health bar chunks are recovered with elixirs.

 

[Jeffrey]

man i spend too much time looking for that 'search and rescue' sidequest. Glad it was a 'bug' and not just me.

L1 + D-pad for party moves.

yeah, but how do I select new moves that I unlock or do they automatically appear in the option?

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Hey guys, mild spoilers. Need help.

Spoiler

Which hotel, and how early, can trigger the scene overnight with Noctis and Prompto?

It is the first one south of Hammerhead. The one which you stop right in the beginning on the way to Galdin Quay.

yeah, but how do I select new moves that I unlock or do they automatically appear in the option?

You equip them through the Gear screen. It has techniques listed there that can be changed.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

We have a fundamental disagreement on how combat flow should work it seems. I'd prefer it to be highly variable and grounded in different kinds of encounters. That I have to use different tactics when fighting tuskers vs dual horns makes those fights feel meaningfully different and interesting to me.

In old FF tuskers would have had high random evasion. Now they're just hard to get ahold of. It's a realization of something that used to be abstract.

Also, more practically speaking, I've had no problem with the big swords in these types of encounters. Just have to switch to them at the right moment, I,e, not try to get into a smooth flow.

I'm fairly sour on KH. The different enemies all tended to blur together to me, and although Sora controls smoothly, I never found fights that engaging. Mind you, I never finished 1 or 2, and definitely didn't master the combat.

Its just a cinematic vs fair game design argument......and since action games have proven you can do both, there is really no reason to settle for either.

 

[Gbraga]

I'm fairly sour on KH. The different enemies all tended to blur together to me, and although Sora controls smoothly, I never found fights that engaging. Mind you, I never finished 1 or 2, and definitely didn't master the combat.

the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

YankeeDonB, publicly apologize and play KH 1.5 + 2.5 HD Remix or you can kiss your business goodbye.

man i spend too much time looking for that 'search and rescue' sidequest. Glad it was a 'bug' and not just me.





yeah, but how do I select new moves that I unlock or do they automatically appear in the option?

Equipment menu, it's the first item you can change.