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Final Fantasy XV |OT| There and back again.

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On combat

Chill out. Stop mashing. You can hold the button down to attack, sure, but canceling out will give you stronger moves sometimes (and some that can even stun an Iron Giant, like with the gun). I like to tap it if the enemy is fast and the weapon has a lot of lag time.

Parrying/blocking can be done by just holding it down. At least I'm pretty sure.

Back off from fights. You aren't supposed to wallow in the middle of it. Stay mobile, warp out, dodge out, whatever.

Use techs. Unlock moves for you bros and if you have enough bar, you can chain them together (i.e., Glad does his downward smash thing and then prompt does his fireworks, and then Glad does his shit again).

The game is eventually going to stop pissing around and holding buttons isn't going to work. That's fine, because you need to, again, stay mobile and strike from behind. Basically, the game wants you to flank dudes as much as possible.

Use spells. A lot. You get a lot of shit to craft them and they can clear out bosses and things higher than your level if you do it right. Freezing enemies particularly works well.

Enemies are weak to certain weapons. Things like Flan aren't weak to shit but magic. Ignis can analyze things as a skill unlock. You'll want that.

Look at your weapons. Some of them have special effects. There's a cave that has a bunch of shitty Flans that are weak af to fire. There's a sword that's a fire sword. This hurts the Flan.

Eat. Cooking bonuses and eating at restaurants are more than worth the money and allow you to tackle things you shouldn't be able to. Abuse that shit.

Thank you.. . i feel a lot of people frustrated with the combat are trying to play this like a beat em up.

I'm playing this like an automated monster hunter, so i know not when to get greedy, and very keen on positioning. you can't just run up to a mob and mash away, and not expect to be blindsighted.

take advantage of the i-frames of the techs.. . virtually this vid helps with the basics.. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMvtobGYumA
 

Misterhbk

Member
This game is ridiculously fun. I'm still really early in, and have mostly just been having fun with a few side quest, listening to conversations between the group, and other little things like that. Combat is addicting, the characters are awesome (I'm loving prompto), the world is fun to explore, the enemies are designed really well. Camera can be annoying at times but that's such a small issue with all the things I love thus far. Can't wait to get knee deep into the story. If only work didn't exist -_-
 

Zakalwe

Banned
I really love how the game presents and details the friendship between the four. Snapshots, camping, traveling banter, even the auto car journies. I'm really invested in the group in a way I havn't been with FF characters since X.

I think they should have made the first part of the game in the open world completely free from the "main" story. Perhaps had the four visit another continent, hundreds of miles away, ditch the arranged marriage part and just have it as four friends traveling.

Perhaps have them become caught in a plot that somehow preludes to the attack without them knowing.

Then at a certain point have the attack on their home town happen and the story become more focused on that.

Right now I'm joyfully running around the world fetching, snapping, fishing, eating, battling... all while my home city is in ruins and my father's murdered corpse has barely grown cold.

It's a little off-putting.
 
I was nervous to post in the Final Fantasy thread as I have not beaten a final fantasy since 10 but played every single one before that exhaustively. What is the best way to approach this? Watch kingsglaive, which I bought, then brotherhood, then play the game? Also, is the Deluxe Edition worth It or should I just stick to the D1 Edition? It seems the only benefit us the art and steel case.
 
I really love how the game presents and details the friendship between the four. Snapshots, camping, traveling banter, even the auto car journies. I'm really invested in the group in a way I havn't been with FF characters since X.

I think they should have made the first part of the game in the open world completely free from the "main" story. Perhaps had the four visit another continent, hundreds of miles away, ditch the arranged marriage part and just have it as four friends traveling.

Perhaps have them become caught in a plot that somehow preludes to the attack without them knowing.

Then at a certain point have the attack on their home town happen and the story become more focused on that.

Right now I'm joyfully running around the world fetching, snapping, fishing, eating, battling... all while my home city is in ruins and my father's murdered corpse has barely grown cold.

It's a little off-putting.

To be fair, your city has been destroyed and there's literally nothing you can do except slowly gain power.
 

Joqu

Member
I forget the outpost name,
but it's the one right in the middle of the beginning area of the game. You stay at the hotel and can trigger the scene. It's random. I stayed there at least twice before it popped (didn't even know it existed).

Just stay at the motel at Longwythw Rest Area. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it does it at any motel.

Yeah, I'm sure I have rested at those places, must be pretty damn random. Strange decision.

Thanks though. I'll be on the lookout for the scene
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Got to the sea village. Think I'm going to wait a few days see if they can patch these frame pacing issues. I love the game, it looks great, sounds great, story is okay, lots to do.... but the stuttering is taking some enjoyment out of it.
 

SilverArrow20XX

Walks in the Light of the Crystal
Welp. Just got spoiled by youtube recommended videos as I knew I would. So hard to not look at youtube at all when I have to spend about 100 hours at a desk job over the course of the few weeks it takes to play an RPG. Was just watching a cooking video during my break. Video ends and there it is. Title is
!!!!!![SPOILERS] LUNAFREYA DEATH STABBED BY ARDYN SAD SCENE
. Not exactly surprised since there were countless whispers about this spoiler before the game was out but fuck.
 

Mcdohl

Member
Three (probably commonly asked) questions:

1. What are the conditions to summon Carbuncle if you beat the Platinum Demo?

2. How do you get the MP3 Player item?

3. Is there a monster bestiary? And if yes, how do you get it?

And to contribute, to get the Monster Whistle you just need to reach chapter 5.
 

Cathcart

Member
This game looks like ass to me, so much of it is so unbelievably ugly it's almost hard to believe it's on PS4. LoD is straight out of Skyrim.
The game uses 96% of the PS4s power to render hair. The character models and spell effects look amazing, the rest of the world looks like an empty PS3 game.

Same here. I feel like I'm missing something with the combat. There doesn't seem like much to it other than hold circle and hope you can dodge something now and again.
You're not missing anything. There's not a combat system, there's a combat button. Every time I see Crown Price Noctus von Horkleborg Castratem' jumping around and throwing his weapon to the other guy and shooting a thing and then back flipping to another enemy I just sit back with one hand on circle and one scrolling through Reddit on my phone and think "Yeah. I did that." What a rush.

But really I want to play the game Noctis is playing. That looks like the best Devil May Cry game yet! On the other hand, if they had just shipped this thing as a box of combat animations and hair it would definitely win The Game Awards award for Best Box of Combat Animations and Hair, 2016 and be a contender for best of all time.
 
I really love how the game presents and details the friendship between the four. Snapshots, camping, traveling banter, even the auto car journies. I'm really invested in the group in a way I havn't been with FF characters since X.

I think they should have made the first part of the game in the open world completely free from the "main" story. Perhaps had the four visit another continent, hundreds of miles away, ditch the arranged marriage part and just have it as four friends traveling.

Perhaps have them become caught in a plot that somehow preludes to the attack without them knowing.

Then at a certain point have the attack on their home town happen and the story become more focused on that.

Right now I'm joyfully running around the world fetching, snapping, fishing, eating, battling... all while my home city is in ruins and my father's murdered corpse has barely grown cold.

It's a little off-putting.
This is similar to how I feel right now. The character interactions are pretty fun and well done. But...the things they're saying and doing while wandering is just too tonally divergent from the way they're acting in a cutscenes or from the seriousness of the nationwide goings-on. Total whiplash. I was thinking that a game about four friends going on a hunting trip (or something similar) and then escalating from there would make more sense than this nigh-apocalyptic backdrop that just seems goofily out of place.
 

Ishida

Banned
The game uses 96% of the PS4s power to render hair. The character models and spell effects look amazing, the rest of the world looks like an empty PS3 game.

Wow..

So one of the best looking games of the generation, and open world to boot, looks like an "empty PS3 game".

You are trying way too hard here.
 
Concerning the complaints about the game having a bad/boring start, I wonder if starting the game with the final battle of Brotherhood which would also act as a combat tutorial, and maybe with brief cutscenes interspersed setting up the characters-- again like a condensed version of Brotherhood would have been better. Like it begins with the fight, the game teaches you something, you execute it, then it goes into a cutscene/flashback that sets up the story and characters, doing this until it's all established and you end the opening with killing the monster.
 
Where do I get the MP3 player? I need to be listening to the 7 soundtrack at all times not just when I'm driving.
I bought mine in the car. There is a shop option that pops up when you are about to drive somewhere after
chapter 3
that shows up and you can buy items and the mp3 player. Not sure if there are other places you can get it.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Welp. Just got spoiled by youtube recommended videos as I knew I would. So hard to not look at youtube at all when I have to spend about 100 hours at a desk job over the course of the few weeks it takes to play an RPG. Was just watching a cooking video during my break. Video ends and there it is. Title is
!!!!!![SPOILERS] LUNAFREYA DEATH STABBED BY ARDYN SAD SCENE
. Not exactly surprised since there were countless whispers about this spoiler before the game was out but fuck.

This is not a good way to do a spoiler.
 

Rappy

Member
Yep. This game is the JRPG equivalent of Bioshock Infinite. It will be divisive anyway
The difference here is that FFXV has been thoroughly critiqued for all its faults in the reviews. Whereas in Bioshock Infinite, they didn't get much talk on the faults in the reviews (or maybe I'm remembering wrong). Some reviewers just believe the good outweighs the bad. People are free to have their opinions about the game, but I still stand by my belief that going into a game with such a negative or weary outlook before even playing it affects how you're going to feel when playing it for a lot of people.

Also, probably got lost in a quick page change and I doubt it's possible but anyone got ideas on this?

I briefly talked about this in the review thread, but is there any way to have the US version of the game have the Asia/JPN control scheme of O being accept/interact? Loot pickup and interact worked much better when it was not the same button as jump. Sony really screwed up changing O to X for the Western audience.
 
Wow..

So one of the best looking games of the generation, and open world to boot, looks like an "empty PS3 game".

You are trying way too hard here.

One of the best looking games is a bit much. Some parts definitely look amazing, but visually, the entire experience is very inconsistent.

I can be gazing in wonder at the beautiful landscapes and fluid character animations, but at the the next moment I can also be looking at completely emotionless facial expressions and low res textures from 2008.
 

Quonny

Member
Is there a short version of Kingsglaive? I don't I can take it.

You can skip the first 28 minutes and the last 28 minutes of Kingsglaive and get all the FFXV related content.

Like quite literally it's exactly at those minutes that the relevant information comes and goes lul.
 
This is similar to how I feel right now. The character interactions are pretty fun and well done. But...the things they're saying while wandering is just too tonally divergent from the way they're acting in a cutscenes or from the seriousness of the nationwide goings-on. Total whiplash. I was thinking that a game about four friends going on a hunting trip (or something similar) and then escalating from there would make more sense than this nigh-apocalyptic backdrop that just seems goofily out of place.

I didn't understand why Noct was acting like a total ass to his father at the beginning after watching Kingsglaive. How does he not treat this with high import? They just conceded their lands to the empire and basically lost a war. But he still acts like an ass to his father and doesn't take his political duties as seriously.

Also how did the party, especially Ignus not
recognize Ardyn on sight?
? The guy is chancellor to the Empire but no one knows who he is in a random seaport in a place that is formerly under Lucian rule. It makes no sense. On Kingsglaive, he's even on tv right next to the Emperor. But they don't recognize him? What the fuck.
 

Ishida

Banned
One of the best looking games is a bit much. Some parts definitely look amazing, but visually, the entire experience is very inconsistent.

When it comes to open world games it's definitely up there. Of course it cannot compete with more linear experiences like Uncharted, for example.
 

notaskwid

Member
The game uses 96% of the PS4s power to render hair. The character models and spell effects look amazing, the rest of the world looks like an empty PS3 game.


You're not missing anything. There's not a combat system, there's a combat button. Every time I see Crown Price Noctus von Horkleborg Castratem' jumping around and throwing his weapon to the other guy and shooting a thing and then back flipping to another enemy I just sit back with one hand on circle and one scrolling through Reddit on my phone and think "Yeah. I did that." What a rush.

But really I want to play the game Noctis is playing. That looks like the best Devil May Cry game yet! On the other hand, if they had just shipped this thing as a box of combat animations and hair it would definitely win The Game Awards award for Best Box of Combat Animations and Hair, 2016 and be a contender for best of all time.

I hope you feel better now.
 
You can skip the first 28 minutes and the last 28 minutes of Kingsglaive and get all the FFXV related content.

Like quite literally it's exactly at those minutes that the relevant information comes and goes lul.

Skipping the first 28 minutes means skipping a lot. You skip on the origins of the Empire and Lucian's war, the role of Tenebrae, and more. You shouldn't skip any of Kingsglaive.
 

ramyeon

Member
Technically Kingsglaive begins before the bro's leave for their trip, and they leave after Ardyn has brought the peace deal to the table :p
At one point in the movie Drautos says they took Noctis out of the city, we just didn't see it happen in the movie.
I know, but the main story beat of Kingsglaive starts after the game (The treaty signing and invasion).
 

Quonny

Member
Skipping the first 28 minutes means skipping a lot. You skip on the origins of the Empire and Lucian's war, the role of Tenebrae, and more. You shouldn't skip any of Kingsglaive.

The information is important, I just feel like the intro drags on way too long and focuses on the protagonists of the movie too much.

Of course that's important to the movie itself, but if you're just looking for backstory for the game, I think it's safe to skip. Of course I'd just recommend watching it all as it's not bad, but if you really just want a shortened version the middle has all the meat.
 

Jashobeam

Member
Just finished watching Kingsglaive and enjoyed it more than I thought I would, perfect timing because my the game just arrived from amazon, time to dive in (well after the 9gb patch). So hyped!
 

Rynam

Member
Yeah, that scene was great. Drives me crazy that I might be missing stuff like that if I'm not resting at certain hotels or something.

Theres also special Stuff if you camp at specific Sanctuaries, like cooking with Ignis or a race with Gladio

Three (probably commonly asked) questions:

1. What are the conditions to summon Carbuncle if you beat the Platinum Demo?

Dieing while on Easy difficulty.
 

Mcdohl

Member
Helping people out, here are the soundtrack locations (sans Type-0):

FF I: You start the game with it.
FF II: Longwythe Rest Area - Leide
FF III: Coernix Station - Alstor - Duscae
FF IV: Hammerhead - Leide
FF V: Galdin Quay - Leide
FF VI: Taelpar Rest Are - Duscae
FF VII: You start the game with it.
FF VIII: Hammerhead - Leide
FF IX: Coernix Station - Cauthess - Duscae
FF X: Wiz Chocobo Post - Duscae
FF XI: Burbost Souvenir Emporium - Cleigne
FF XII: Verinas Mart - Ravatogh
FF XIII: You start the game with it.
FF XIV: Coernix Station Lestallum - Cleigne
Dissidia (both discs): Old Lestallum - Cleigne
Justice Monsters V: You start the game with it.
Kingsglaive: You start the game with it.
Original Drive Music: You start the game with it.
 
The information is important, I just feel like the intro drags on way too long and focuses on the protagonists of the movie too much.

Of course that's important to the movie itself, but if you're just looking for backstory for the game, I think it's safe to skip. Of course I'd just recommend watching it all as it's not bad, but if you really just want a shortened version the middle has all the meat.

The middle has the meat but the beginning has the detail. If you skip to the middle you miss details like the wall, the fact that the Empire and Lucian have been fighting for ages, who exactly Luna's brother is and how he became to be who he is, and more. Basically, the beginning gives the peace treaty context. Without it you just get a random sampling and a random peace treaty without one understanding of why it's important or the sheer stakes.

Your suggestion is bad.

Watch all of Kingsglaive.
 
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