Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD

You fight Ifrit. But he doesn't show signs of ever getting weaker until Bahamut and Shiva deliver their blows. And Shiva is the one to kill him.

Nah, you're definitely weakening him throughout the fight, which is what causes the different stages. If Bahamut and Shiva could have done it alone, that would have been that.

Plus, Noctis's is the one that knocks his horn off and finally stabs him in the gut.
 
You beat Ifrit though.

You equating Ifrit to bhenevlze or Necron or Yu Yevon or Zeromus or the undying or Chaos?

Ifrit at least feels like part of the gameplan and not some end-god fight like usual. You fight gods in prior moments and in the end fight Ifrit, which leads to ardyn. If it was the other way around, I'd then agree.

He's in post-game? :O

Liede base you need to conquer to get the type-f (I like the type-f, shut up)
After a huge onslaught, you fight 2 MA-X's that can one-shot you with a BS AOE attack. The voices are the same as Loqi and the other commander you knock out in that other base. You basically fight them again, only to kill them.
 
I like how Shiva can kill Ifrit but she or the other summons do literally zero damage to the MA-X angelus. Niflhiem really had good engineers.
 
People keep saying Luna was underdeveloped. If Luna was an underdeveloped character, would she reportedly like cool stickers?

what is up with that kid
 
Kind of an indirect confirmation that the guys were intended to survive the ending. I never thought the game implied otherwise, but there seems to be a group that's convinced everyone dies.

Why do some think the bros died? I never got that impression.
 
Why do some think the bros died? I never got that impression.

You see them for a quick sec in the afterlife-ish place where everyone else that you are currently seeing for a quick sec have also died, and the last you saw of them was them staying behind to fend off a hoard of demons. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, there's just no saying for sure how it is intended to be thought of.
 
You see them for a quick sec in the afterlife-ish place where everyone else that you are currently seeing for a quick sec have also died, and the last you saw of them was them staying behind to fend off a hoard of demons. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, there's just no saying for sure how it is intended to be thought of.

It seems like they left it open. Which of course means the fans will be at each other's throats arguing for one side or the other.
 
You see them for a quick sec in the afterlife-ish place where everyone else that you are currently seeing for a quick sec have also died, and the last you saw of them was them staying behind to fend off a hoard of demons. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, there's just no saying what is true or not.

Its really up to interpretation (which I'm fine with). I took it as a illusion from ardyn which freaks him out, showing the people currently behind noct and how Ardyn has lost.

Like in Dream Drop Distance when there are a bunch of characters behind sora in the eyes of Xigbar but no one is really there.
 
You see them for a quick sec in the afterlife-ish place where everyone else that you are currently seeing for a quick sec have also died, and the last you saw of them was them staying behind to fend off a hoard of demons. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, there's just no saying for sure how it is intended to be thought of.

Hmm... somehow I missed that. I guess it was around when Luna flew in to help finish off Ardyn? It could've been the typical "power of friendship"/"their hearts are with me!" thing.
 
I think there's merit to the storytelling approach with XV, specifically that the player only sees what Noctis sees and there is very little omniscient perspective... except that the game breaks that rule all the time with stuff like a strange cut to discussion at the Nif empire or scenes with Luna triggered by random NPCs (were they witnesses these scenes, or...?).

If you ignore those aberrations and focus on XV as strictly Noctis's perspective, decisions like Gladio's untold scars seem to have some underlying consistency, at least (I guess you could also describe the consistency as "DLC" or "$$$$$").
 
Hmm... somehow I missed that. I guess it was around when Luna flew in to help finish off Ardyn? It could've been the typical "power of friendship"/"their hearts are with me!" thing.

Yup it's right after that. Noctis, Lucis, and the bros are all standing there together. Then in the next shot it's just Noctis there.
 
Then again Luna appears for just as much time in that sequence yet has a real physical effect on Ardyn. It's hard to know what is real :D
 
You see them for a quick sec in the afterlife-ish place where everyone else that you are currently seeing for a quick sec have also died, and the last you saw of them was them staying behind to fend off a hoard of demons. It's not a hard conclusion to come to, there's just no saying for sure how it is intended to be thought of.

I'm pretty sure that's just symbolism. You also see Regis as a father instead of as a king right next to them, and it's made clear in the previous scene that he abandons this form of being after noctis begs to trust in him - the only real manifestation of regis in the crystal is shown after noctis releases the power of past kings.
 
Seems like she tried to distract him by "healing" him. Those sparkles appear whenever Luna heals someone, including Ardyn himself during Leviathan's rage.

I am a little confused about that part as well. Isn't Ardyn already dead at that point? How can you kill someone in the afterlife?

I was kind of hoping they'd reconcile, actually. Ardyn did stop the starscourge and got completely fucked over because of it.
 
I just thought... Noctis is one of the most powerful FF protagonists ever. His set of abilities alone puts him above the majority. I think he only lacks in the magic attacks department, but this dude at full power can fly, summon a multitude of different weapons at the same time, weapons that not only he can use to attack, but actually protect him as a shield.

Dude is an expert on pretty much any time of weapon (A skill only Firion and Bartz would be able to match).

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I think Zidane could give him a run for his money in try-hard mode, given that he can basically go super saiyan.
 
Guys, does anyone else think that Gladio's DLC will take place inside the canyon in the background of this pic?

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It is around there where Gladio left the party in the story and in the DLC concept art you can see the same brittle stone arches and you are obviously in a cave/a deep canyon:

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wait, wait...

what did Luna do to Ardyn's arm before she died?

I'm so confused

Didn't she touch him with the white light effect back in the Leviathan scene? I'm assuming she did something that reactivated in the final confrontation, probably as some kind of distraction to help with the final blow.
 
Luna tried to heal him. It was the same effect you see when she was healing the sick people in that one optional cutscene in Tenebrae or when she healed Noctis.
Even though he stabbed her, she wanted to help Ardyn... I don't think she was trying to harm him/destroy him. I think that is why Ardyn got suddenly so mad with her and slapped her. He realized she was good and caring till the end and pitied him even after what he did to her. :(
 
I am a little confused about that part as well. Isn't Ardyn already dead at that point? How can you kill someone in the afterlife?

I was kind of hoping they'd reconcile, actually. Ardyn did stop the starscourge and got completely fucked over because of it.

Luna heals the soul more than the body. The Starscourge is said to affect the soul (Bahamut tells Noctis that Ardyn's body was stained due to the Daemons he absorbed).

Luna's spirit distracted Ardyn's spirit by trying to heal him.
 
Man, still thinking about the post-credits scene with the #bros camping and Noct saying he wants to opt out of this whole "you have to die to save the world" thing. It really grounds this epic good vs. evil yadayada and puts the human element of a road trip with your best friends front and center. And the fact that the bros die too makes me sad. 😢
 
Man, still thinking about the post-credits scene with the #bros camping and Noct saying he wants to opt out of this whole "you have to die to save the world" thing. It really grounds this epic good vs. evil yadayada and puts the human element of a road trip with your best friends front and center. And the fact that the bros die too makes me sad. 😢

Bros didn't die. That's my canon to ambiguous ending.
 
Seems like a pretty good guess. I just wonder what was so important that he had to abandon his duty to his King! >:(

Well, the 4chan leaks say they actually just added these quests into the game last year after so many fans complained that Gladio, Prompto and Ignis weren't playable. If that is true, it is probabaly just very halfheartedly related to the story. Gladio didn't gain any additional power or weapons or anything like that when he came back, right?
By the way, this might be a spoiler but by now we already know who he will be fighting, so maybe that will give you a good guess:
It is going to be Gilgamesh
That was released to the press at some recent event.
 
Man, still thinking about the post-credits scene with the #bros camping and Noct saying he wants to opt out of this whole "you have to die to save the world" thing. It really grounds this epic good vs. evil yadayada and puts the human element of a road trip with your best friends front and center. And the fact that the bros die too makes me sad. ��

lol, bros are fine. I don't even think the game makes it that ambiguous.

But the bros helped me in the afterlife to defeat Ardyn, didn't they?

Symbolic and often used anime trope, which is only seen by Ardyn. He sees it, shakes his head, and then they're gone.
 
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