I'd imagine that's the case - she certainly has a better Personal on paper, but I hardly used Silas after I got Peri so it's nothing I can say with experience.
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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Skyball Paint
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Do generic units get names when you capture them? If so, that's awesome.
Also, what else, if anything, does luck affect besides enemy crit rates and the activation of a few skills?
Also, what else, if anything, does luck affect besides enemy crit rates and the activation of a few skills?
Reposting my question for new eyes.
Leo is worse than Hinoka. If you need to cut one, cut Leo.
Thanks, I was just searching for confirmation bias there. Bye Leo!
theprodigy
Member
uh no this is Revelation, Hinoka is worse than Leo
DeployThatPizza
Member
I hate it when I die to low crits. I was about to complete Sophie's paralogue when Camilla died to a 4% crit.
Corrin (and, by extension, Kana) can be good or bad depending on how you build him/her, and the kids' effectiveness will depend on who their parents are and when you get them, but I'd say something like:
S: Azura, Camilla, Effie, Keaton, Velouria, Xander
A: Elise, First Servant, Forrest, Leo, Mozu (Archer), Nina, Ophelia, Percy, Selena, Shigure, Sophie, Soleil
B: Beruka, Charlotte, Laslow, Niles, Odin (Samurai), Peri, Second Servant, Shura, Siegbert, Silas
C: Everyone else.
Cut Camilla for being the worst character and keep Hinoka and Leo because they're the best royals on each side.
Keaton is that good? I'm not really using him because my Kaden didn't turn out all that useful in Birthright and I assumed they were similar.
NeonZ
Member
Yes, and the names actually match their origin (Western-style names if they have Nohr classes, Japanese ones if they have Hoshido classes).
Keaton is amazing. Great bases, great growth rates, his stones offer him versatility as either a physical wall or a quick assassin, and Beastbane is amazing to have around for some later maps. He makes for a really great pair-up partner as well. Helps that his kid is phenomenal too.
His bases are great, his growths are great, his skills are great, and he gets strong, versatile bonuses from the beaststones. Velouria (his daughter) is equally good with a compatible mother (Camilla, Effie, Peri).
Their only downsides are their poor personal skills.
Aw, man, now I don't know what to do. What makes Hinoka worse than Leo in Revelation?
Don't worry, she's already in the garbage. She really does not hold up over the back half of Conquest. And I'm not into the whole sibling/violence fetish.
Comes to your party late so you have to work on her a bit and her HP is abysmally low. She's not bad though but the state she is given to you is annoying.
And Camillia a great unit throughout Conquest gameplay speaking.
Huh. Well, my decision got harder.
I must have had bad rolls for her or great rolls for everyone else because Camilla was the only mediocre unit in my squad by endgame. Fragile, poor magic, and her strength and speed weren't especially exceptional compared to other units.
She works much better as a wyvern lord. You just get the Malig Knight skills, and then make her a mobile tank with Rally Defense
Finale Fireworker
Member
How come people keep mentioning certain units being better or worse in Revelations? Do they get different stats? I've been trying to Google those differences and haven't had much luck.
Mostly has to do with there join times and how the compensation they get for it is pretty bad. When you get a lot of your units in later chapters the enemy is already at that point where there promoted and can absolutely slaughter them making it hard to raise them up to par with your other units.
Sure you can level them up through scouting and stuff but what's the point if there are other units that are already better like all the royals.
Comes down to availability. Typically characters end up being worse because they join way later but don't have significantly better stats to compensate.
Odin is the ur-example since he joins 9 chapters later than in Conquest and has a whole 4 more magic to show for it. And he wasn't exactly setting records for stat gains in Conquest.
Huh, I don't know why I never considered this.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Availability, relative enemy strength compared to their join time, opportunity cost (you get 8 royals, of them only Hinoka and Elise are noticeably worse and Hinoka is great pair-up fodder for Xander and gives him exactly what he wants. A lot of units just have terrible bases, Hana does like 1 damage to enemies in her join chapter, Arthur and Effie join at like ~10 around the time people should have promoted or are just about to promote. The game really encourages solo'ing with Corrin until you get some of the other royals.
If you're cool with grinding you can salvage people but that's true of literally anyone in any Fire Emblem, which means that a discussion of good characters becomes pretty meaningless.
idk Selena's is pretty terribleYeaaaaah. Keaton has the most underwhelming Personal possible.
WrenchNinja
Member
When does rod shop 3 become available to buy?
NeonZ
Member
Castle battles.
Use My Castle battles. Go to Recently Updated and find a base that's at a similar level of development. Fight 'em!
Conquest on Hard is BULLSHIT.
I'm on Chapter 20 and I've come to the verge of clearing the map multiple times only to lose a character near the end to some random BULLSHIT that the numbers told me shouldn't even be possible.
BULLSHIT.
It's crossing the line into unfun territory.
I'm on Chapter 20 and I've come to the verge of clearing the map multiple times only to lose a character near the end to some random BULLSHIT that the numbers told me shouldn't even be possible.
BULLSHIT.
It's crossing the line into unfun territory.
Need to finish chapter 20.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Tsubaki and Selena both need +str pairups and they're both going to be giving mostly speed.
I know, I'm just saying why is it like the way it is.
Because Selena giving birth to her own mother is creepy.
WrenchNinja
Member
Thank you.
Conquest 25 seems like the breather to define all breathers. Literally backed out mid-mission to spend some of my remaining gold on seals because the XP farm was nuts. Seems really, really crazy to me that from turn 1 you're basically given a button that goes 'hey, do you wanna end the mission now?'.
I dunno, like, maybe there's like one case where her personal actually does something. Maybe. Keaton's straight up doesn't and gives you completely randomized odds of giving you a random resource that has zero impact on his utility as a unit and you're not even guaranteed that you'll even be able to use the damn thing he digs up. I'd much rather him giving you Vulneraries or something like that.
Not really?
If anything it makes sense that Subaki's and Selena's child would look like Cordelia.
I assume so, since they can become Corrin's class too and use dragonstones to transform.
I don't really have a way to test it out against a wyrmslayer enemy though.
And they get awesome and unique support conversations.
Really brings Selena's story full circle.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Selena/Subaki is so canon that it hurts. Shame it's only on Rev.
I love how Selena mentions that Caeldori used to look like her father, but grew up to look like her grandmother. Then there was the segment with Selena realizing that Caeldori is a different person from Cordelia, and accepting her for who she is. So good.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Sooooo, what are good stats for a level 2 swordmaster? In Conquest, I have enough magic users, and my Nyx is great, so I don't want to replace her with Ophelia, and I really want a swordmaster... Sooo I'm thinking of making her a Swordmaster, but I'm not sure if her offspring seal to mage knight and heart seal to swordmaster is any good. Probably not... but I'd be happy with at least average.
So those of you playing Birthright, what strength, skill, and speed do decent Swordmasters have at level 2?
So those of you playing Birthright, what strength, skill, and speed do decent Swordmasters have at level 2?
Yeah but she doesn't just look like Cordelia, she is a deliberate expy of Cordelia. It's a little different.
The support convos make it clear that she's her own woman.
chaosblade
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This RNG though.
Have Corrin block a path in chapter 22 to hold the reinforcements. Check hitrates on my turn, each is 27, both would need to hit to kill, and Corrin can't KO either enemy without a dragon fang proc (17%) so I should only take one attack due to the narrow corridor anyway.
Then the game says "lol planning."
First dude attacks. Hits. Corrin attacks once. Twice. Dragon fang. Well shit, now the other guy can attack. Second dude attacks. Hits. COME ON.
Have Corrin block a path in chapter 22 to hold the reinforcements. Check hitrates on my turn, each is 27, both would need to hit to kill, and Corrin can't KO either enemy without a dragon fang proc (17%) so I should only take one attack due to the narrow corridor anyway.
Then the game says "lol planning."
First dude attacks. Hits. Corrin attacks once. Twice. Dragon fang. Well shit, now the other guy can attack. Second dude attacks. Hits. COME ON.