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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT| Mount Breeding Simulator
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ShadowSoldier89
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Its pretty terrible. Lots of units need to start seeing 4* variants coming out.
They need to do a rebalance of the gacha pools. Too many mediocre units are available at 5*s, and the 3* pool has not changed since launch. Units need to be demoted.
The biggest insult to injury was how unimpressive Seth was. Could you imagine if they made units like Eirika 5*Star only? God, I just get annoyed thinking about it haha.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I feel like everything other than specialty units should be available at other rarities, at least eventually. Keep the seasonal and Brave units and anything future like them 5* only, and start downgrading some others.
Looking at the current list of 5* only excluding the special and brave ones
Alm
Amelia
Azura
Celica
Delhea
Eldigan
Elise
Ephraim
Faye (seriously wtf)
Genny (Seriously wtf)
Gray
Hector
Hinoka
Ike
Innes
Jaffar
Julia
Karel
Katarina
Leo
Linde
Lucina
Luke
Lyn
Minerva
Mist (oh FFS)
Ninian
Olwen
Ryoma
Saber
Sanaki
Sonya
Takumi
Tana
Tiki (young)
Thats a pretty fucking absurd list. A lot of them arent even interesting characters that feel special at 5*. Mist, sonya, jaffar, luke, bleh. Also 2/3 dancers locked at 5*.
Id start by downgrading characters like sonya, jaffar, luke, basically all the colorless except leave elise. Jaffar downgrade could make life and death easier. Downgrade Olwen to match Reinhardt (considering hes better anyway).
Then as more special and unique duplicates start to release downgrade more.
I quickly pulled this off a wiki, not 100% sure its accurate
Looking at the current list of 5* only excluding the special and brave ones
Alm
Amelia
Azura
Celica
Delhea
Eldigan
Elise
Ephraim
Faye (seriously wtf)
Genny (Seriously wtf)
Gray
Hector
Hinoka
Ike
Innes
Jaffar
Julia
Karel
Katarina
Leo
Linde
Lucina
Luke
Lyn
Minerva
Mist (oh FFS)
Ninian
Olwen
Ryoma
Saber
Sanaki
Sonya
Takumi
Tana
Tiki (young)
Thats a pretty fucking absurd list. A lot of them arent even interesting characters that feel special at 5*. Mist, sonya, jaffar, luke, bleh. Also 2/3 dancers locked at 5*.
Id start by downgrading characters like sonya, jaffar, luke, basically all the colorless except leave elise. Jaffar downgrade could make life and death easier. Downgrade Olwen to match Reinhardt (considering hes better anyway).
Then as more special and unique duplicates start to release downgrade more.
I quickly pulled this off a wiki, not 100% sure its accurate
My blue roster has 3 blarblade+ mages so I'm not terribly concerned about specific red counters. I do see your point about Black Knight, if he ends up being a GHB or TT reward with Distant Counter, he'd become absurdly common overnight. But I hate Oboro's stupid face. I think I'll give her Heavy Spear to a 4* Valter instead of sending her home this time, though.
Gwendolyn is rapidly becoming my most commonly found unit, everyone who needs drag back has it (and I've found a lot of Clairs). Maybe I'll work on a 4*+10. Probably not.
Anyways, I know what skills they have. There's tons of 3-4* that I'm very happy to see, even skills like Sol or defiant/threaten abilities find a use on my autobattle teams. I'm allowed to bitch about finding Gwendolyn #20.
Speaking of which, I've done so much random inheritance to clear out barracks space that my older 5* characters are starting to remind me of my Steam library. I'll frequently go to inherit some common situational skill over only to find out they already have it, much like when I try to impulse buy some random indie game I got in a humble bundle 2 years ago. This happened with Anna twice, lol. I guess I fed her a couple Ravens at some point.
SliceSabre
Banned
I could never see a unit like Julia being downgrade considering how utterly unique her weapon is. She's still currently the only anti-dragon mage.
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Time to add weapons to the gacha.
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Time to add weapons to the gacha.
theprodigy
Member
toastyToast
Member
I know the flipped the rates but they really need to add some more 3 star units. We've been pulling the same trash for the last 7 months.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I edited in some of the changes I would make.
I would then make current 4*/5* units like Catria and Claire and Cain and Hawkeye and Caeda and Camilla 3*/4*. Which would also strengthen the 5* and 3* pool.
toastyToast
Member
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I cant see them taking camilla and caeda out of the 5* pool. too popular of characters, but there are definitely plenty of options for that move.
I'm in total hoarding mode right now... 250+ orbs. We're waiting for the October banner, fingers crossed for a Halloween theme that we're 75% sure is happening.
Almost 90K feathers too, but that's only because I keep waffling on promoting one of my units. Should have promoted my FRobin during that 2x XP/SP event so I would have had it ready for the GHB in two days, but TT rewards tho.
Almost 90K feathers too, but that's only because I keep waffling on promoting one of my units. Should have promoted my FRobin during that 2x XP/SP event so I would have had it ready for the GHB in two days, but TT rewards tho.
I agree with Genny and Hinoka. Have been dying for Wrathful staff and Hinoka would finally let me build a decent Flyer Emblem.
Would also demote Eldigan and Lyn + All 5* Bow users aside from Brave Lyn. The latter change would make colorless hell a little more bearable.
my current 5* Nino +1 is +atk, -hp. I rolled a +spd -res at 4*. Should I get her to 5* and then merge her as base with the +1 Nino? Or is +atk the better choice?
SliceSabre
Banned
Camilla is in the 4* pool cause I pulled a 4* version of her last week right after I got her 5*.
I thought about saving for limited units or Hone Fliers but in the end there's nothing I want more than additional Hectors.
I see nothing wrong with that strategy.
I keep saying it, but Hector could be -everything/+nothing and still be better than half the heroes in the game.
+spd is generally better than +att, but -res makes it harder for her to tank Reinhardt. If you have other counters then you should use the +spd one. If not, then +att might be better.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
he was saying she should be moved to 3*-4*, shes currently in 4*-5*
Sushen
Member
Caeda is one of the worst units you can find, where fortoff flier is the only positive. I would rate her the same as oboro. I'm sure some people can make them work but why put so much efforts recycling trash while so many better units are out there.
My FRobin is ready as 5*. Her GHB was the toughest for a while and I can imagine her infernal will rival Legion and Valter. At least I'll have an easier time finishing kill unit with the unit task.
I think I can scrape together enough orbs to pull CYL one more time before it goes away. I think I'm probably at the rationalizing stage of burning orbs for nothing at this point, and making my peace with not pulling a single one.
I've realized that I don't even know what I'd do with a new brave hero even if I pulled one. I know that Lyn is broken as fuck but I already have plenty of great heroes at this point, and Lyn doesn't stand out as much as I thought she would. I don't consider her a must-pick for all of my teams or anything.
I imagine that if I pulled a Lancina or another Brave unit, I'd probably feel the same way.
I've realized that I don't even know what I'd do with a new brave hero even if I pulled one. I know that Lyn is broken as fuck but I already have plenty of great heroes at this point, and Lyn doesn't stand out as much as I thought she would. I don't consider her a must-pick for all of my teams or anything.
I imagine that if I pulled a Lancina or another Brave unit, I'd probably feel the same way.
My condolences.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I was just saying Caeda is a popular fire emblem character, not that shes a popular fire emblem heroes character, or a good one.
She's the first cavalry archer... You'll see what I mean when you encounter flier emblem.
Xander/Eldigan are tanks and Ike/Ryoma are horseless.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
These banners are really good but they don't expire until the next one starts and many times we get a trailer for the new banner a day ahead. So you'll be able to preview the new units usually while these banners are still active.
That's what I'm doing because I really want Lancina on my main account, but may as well wait till Thursday to see what the next units are.
He's a very strong unit albeit very squishy. Very player-phase centric and is quite terrible during enemy phase.
Probably the "worst" among the Brave units though.
Pejo
Member
Is Roy a great attack unit then? I don't really like user phase melee anymore since it's basically sacrificing them to actually use them in harder content. I read a quick blurb about how his speed can get insane and he can pretty much guarantee a double, but there always seems to be some shitty blue mage hanging around that will take him out immediately afterwards.
Not a bad idea. I think I'll go with this mindset.
Wyndstryker
Member
I go to arena and all 3 rounds have been teams of the 4 brave heroes. Not that I mind cause it's an easy win but do people really think having all 4 brave heroes as a team actually work? They aren't bad individually but they aren't that spectacular as a defense team.
You can blitzkrieg the opposing team when they're badly positioned. It's great. This morning I farmed the lunatic story maps on auto for orbs lol
Saw this post on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6zfbs5/bowlyn_counter_the_divine_dragon/
And i think i just found the next unit i want to build
. She survives:
1) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Brave Bow+ B.Lyn thats +5 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
2) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Mulagir B.Lyn thats +3 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
Now...just need to pull a good A.Tiki ;-;/
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6zfbs5/bowlyn_counter_the_divine_dragon/
And i think i just found the next unit i want to build
. She survives:1) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Brave Bow+ B.Lyn thats +5 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
2) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Mulagir B.Lyn thats +3 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
Now...just need to pull a good A.Tiki ;-;/
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Probably Ploy skills but they are attached to very rare units. If she's on a team of mages Hone Speed is great as mages always want more speed. Have you tried to pull for Eirika at all? She can get high res as well and can buff mages even better.
For a cheaper build, this is my A.Tiki. Pretty solid wall against archers and pretty much any physical unit. Most physical units need a special to do significant damage to her.Saw this post on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6zfbs5/bowlyn_counter_the_divine_dragon/
And i think i just found the next unit i want to build
1) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Brave Bow+ B.Lyn thats +5 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
2) A fully buffed Hone&Goad +ATK or +SPD/-Def Mulagir B.Lyn thats +3 and below while KO-ing her in the process.
Now...just need to pull a good A.Tiki ;-;/
I've paired her with Ninian for both the support bond and Fortify Dragons.
Maybe Threaten skills? Or Savage Blow, though sometimes chip damage on units is undesirable if it makes them proc things like WoM, Vantage, etc.
That's a pretty terrifying wall. Looks like +def/-spd? Would kill basically any Archer that isn't B. Lyn/Innes yeah?
I'll probably still throw Steady Breath on her since I've got a 2 un-used B.Ikes and I don't plan to merge. Will pair her with Ninian though! That's going to be a scary pair.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
I don't know about the tier 2 specials being available at 3* (since supports are already unlocked), but some tier 3 skills need to be more readily available at 4*. Goad Cavalry, Quick Riposte, Death Blow, Life and Death, etc.
Yeah, she's +def -spd. Brave bows are actually worse against her because the lower weapon damage means that they're more likely to do 0s, which just gives her Bonfire charge. I don't know if she counterkills all archers (probably not), but she survives them for sure.
The only threat that archers bring would be if they had their own specials charged, but even then I think she can usually survive them.
Nowi works too, though she takes more damage (and I feel better putting her on a defensive tile). It's just that I like ATiki so I try to find excuses to use her.
That looks like a high-speed Nowi, which is terrifying. That's probably way more versatile than my ATiki lol.
Tiki has much higher defense.
My Fury 3 Nowi can do it but gets pretty messed up in the process. However, as mine's +SPD and usually runs a speed seal + hone speed from an ally, she avoids being doubled by a stock unbuffed Lyn. And if she's buffed then Hector just panic ploys her into uselessness.
Only issue is Lightning Breath adds +1 to the special count like a blade tome, so even Moonbow won't go off unless Nowi gets doubled. Lyn's got pretty high Res. Which is tempting me to switch my -atk +spd Nowi over to the +atk -HP one I just found.
With the same build & boons/banes, Nowi will die a +0 Mulagir B.Lyn that is fully buffed.
She fairs a bit better though against Brave Bow+ and will live against unmerged B.Lyn.
Really nice Dragon Waifu. I don't have nearly enough feathers though to build her
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