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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator

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Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I may gave Infernal some more tries, but I think without a good Red Mage, its nearly impossible. Its also annoying that Windsweap disables Distant Counter + Breaker skills, but Breaker Skillers on a ranged unit can still counter.
 

Mupod

Member
the Watersweep green mage was the biggest annoyance for me in the alm/cecilia battle. I ended up using Goad Cavalry on top of other buffs to just overpower him with a g tomebreaker Cecilia. Once him and the blue mage were down it was mostly just cleanup.

I almost beat it by just having Camus sit on a defense tile but I was too lazy to try and figure out a way to heal him up.
 

kswiston

Member
Given how the meta shifted, it is nice to have someone who can handle Hectors without using up a 2nd slot....but No, it's probably not really worth it, unless you need to eek out a couple more points a fight. Which you don't, with Azura

You are focusing on Arena, while ignoring some of the newer modes that we are getting which are focusing on multi-team battles.

If you have a solid arena team, it's definitely worth working on team redundancy for stuff like Squad Assault.

If you are not a whale, you can probably just content yourself in bouncing between the 17-19th rank in arena.
 

Sterok

Member
Got a deathless run in tier 20 on my first go. I'm actually shocked. No idea if 4798 is enough to stay there, but I am sure that it's close to my ceiling.
 

Pejo

Member
Man, new tempest is SO much better with the way losing works now. I got 450 on my first run of the "hard" 5 rounder". So glad units you kill stay dead now. That old system was bullshit.

In other news, I was up to 5.5% on-banner 5* buff, been sniping greens for Tikibikini. Hit 5 orbs again this morning from login/first rewards of Tempest. Got 4 reds and a clear =/.

"Please god no please god no" - pull the clear - Beach Fred. Fucking assholes. All that buildup for shit. I really hate that you can't back out of a summon if you get shit colors.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
I completely forgot yesterday was the last day of the season and didn't finish my deathless run. Got booted into T18. Oh well, maybe I can make my way back up to 19 at least.

Don't really want to go up against Sea World in T20 again anyway.
 

Mupod

Member
I'm not sure why there's still the perception that you only fight against your own tier in arena. Only the units you're playing with and the difficulty you pick determine what you face.
 

Spoit

Member
You are focusing on Arena, while ignoring some of the newer modes that we are getting which are focusing on multi-team battles.

If you have a solid arena team, it's definitely worth working on team redundancy for stuff like Squad Assault.

If you are not a whale, you can probably just content yourself in bouncing between the 17-19th rank in arena.

That's my point. The main reason to promote her is for arena. In normal use cases, 4* is perfectly fine, since she's not going to be doing that much attacking anyway. And especially in the longer modes, you'll probably have some way to heal her up from tanking green hits
 

Mupod

Member
I could be in T20 every other week if I gave a shit but I'd rather just coast on cavalry cruise control for a while.

I'll probably get all my Tempest Trial grinding done this weekend as I'll be visiting my parents. Not much else to do there but sit out by the water and drink but that's kind of why I'm going.

Xander's already almost back at 40. I leveled his 4* version to 40 during the first double SP so he should be ready to roll as soon as he's maxed out. Distant counter tanky units are just so freaking easy to level since the AI ignores them if presented with any alternative that can't counter.
 

kswiston

Member
I'm not sure why there's still the perception that you only fight against your own tier in arena. Only the units you're playing with and the difficulty you pick determine what you face.

I think we're talking about competing for scores. A 4500-4600 is enough to flip-flop between rank 17 and 18. If you don't care about 2 orbs a month and a few hundred feathers, that is a pretty low effort commitment to arena. If you can manage something a bit higher to stay in between rank 18 and 19, even better. Unless you can compete with the top players for that rank 20 spot, there's not a ton of incentive to push harder.
 

Alucrid

Banned
does +1ing units make arena that much shittier? i'm hesitant to really do so because i can easily coast between rank 18 and 19 to get those 4 orbs and don't want to jeopardize that
 
I have bride Charlotte, swimsuit Frederick, Reinhardt, Caeda, Catria, and a 4* Tharja that I have almost gotten enough emblems to upgrade to 5*.

Should I just restart? Compared to my old account this one blows (except Reinhardt)
 

Invis

Member
Just started playing this game a couple days ago and I think I got pretty lucky with all my summons so far. I've done 3 full summons and have gotten Lucina, Hector, Ike, and Tharja.

This game is cool so far. Having a lot of trouble understanding how to get SP though. I'm trying to get Hector to max first, or atleast do one character a time. He's level 25 at the moment and has Counter, and I inherited Vantage 1/2/3 on him as well, just don't have the rest of the 400 SP I need for it. Any strategies to get SP?

Also just in general tips on things I should be daily?
 
does +1ing units make arena that much shittier? i'm hesitant to really do so because i can easily coast between rank 18 and 19 to get those 4 orbs and don't want to jeopardize that

Have a +2 Elise, I've seen merges of up to +8, albeit spread across multiple units. Even if it were a +8 Reinhardt though, eh, nothing my team can't handle when they're all packing Triangle Adept.

I have bride Charlotte, swimsuit Frederick, Reinhardt, Caeda, Catria, and a 4* Tharja that I have almost gotten enough emblems to upgrade to 5*.

Should I just restart? Compared to my old account this one blows (except Reinhardt)

If you're gonna restart, restart when there's either a top-tier banner (you already have Reinhardt though) or banner with your waifu / husbando (possibly in a bikini). It'll save you a lot of grief. lol Lots of grief...

*Thinks back to 8 days of re-rolling at launch*

Just started playing this game a couple days ago and I think I got pretty lucky with all my summons so far. I've done 3 full summons and have gotten Lucina, Hector, Ike, and Tharja.

This game is cool so far. Having a lot of trouble understanding how to get SP though. I'm trying to get Hector to max first, or atleast do one character a time. He's level 25 at the moment and has Counter, and I inherited Vantage 1/2/3 on him as well, just don't have the rest of the 400 SP I need for it. Any strategies to get SP?

Also just in general tips on things I should be daily?

That's quite some luck. haha

Anyways, on gaining SP, you'll want to wait for Friday - Saturday where there's a 2x SP multiplier active. You'll also want to abuse Chain Challenges by intentionally surrendering at the last map of an easy one as the SP gained up to that point will be saved.
 
If you're gonna restart, restart when there's either a top-tier banner (you already have Reinhardt though) or banner with your waifu / husbando (possibly in a bikini). It'll save you a lot of grief. lol Lots of grief...

*Thinks back to 8 days of re-rolling at launch*
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That's what I did at launch and then my account got deleted. Went from 4 top tiers and waifus to Reinhardt and discount bride...
 

Invis

Member
Anyways, on gaining SP, you'll want to wait for Friday - Saturday where there's a 2x SP multiplier active. You'll also want to abuse Chain Challenges by intentionally surrendering at the last map of an easy one as the SP gained up to that point will be saved.

Is that an event just for this weekend or is it 2x SP every weekend?
 
That's what I did at launch and then my account got deleted. Went from 4 top tiers and waifus to Reinhardt and discount bride...

Well, you've got Reinhardt, and the only other unit capable of mass murder probably won't be back for a year. I'd say keep for now, restart when your ideal banner comes.

Is that an event just for this weekend or is it 2x SP every weekend?

Every Friday - Saturday. Not Sunday though.
 

Sölf

Member
I barely did any Tempest yesterday and today. I am at ~26k points and soooo don't want to do this anymore. I am really happy we got the new maps, just because it's something different to do. Of those, I finished map 1-3 on normal and hard so far. Will probably take a look at the others tomorrow.

As for Tempest, 3-4 more days of hardcore playing and I would be done, but dear god, I so don't want to do this anymore. D:
 

ggx2ac

Member
I'm probably behind on this but I just got the Phantom Spd 1 Seal, initially I thought it was supposed to be used defensively but now I see that you are supposed to use it with your heroes that have Windsweep or Watersweep.

Eg. I put Phantom Spd Seal 1 on Alm.

Alm has level 3 Windsweep and 30 Speed.

He fought against a Roy with 32 speed.

Normally, Windsweep won't work however, PSS boosted Alm's speed by +5 so Alm had 35 speed against Roy which means Windsweep worked against Roy.
 
I think I enjoy playing the 5 battle Hard Tempest Trial most. My level 40 units get the same SP as the Lunatic battles and I can finish them much faster. It's not the most efficient in points per stamina but especially considering the improved survival rate it seems to be the best for me in points per minute.
 

Ondore

Member
So I pulled a 4* Roderick today... thinking of building the ultimate buffbot, but I'm not sure if it's worth jacking my existing Ephraim or promoting Eirika. I've got a Nino and would *like* to pull a Tharja at some point...
 

Sushen

Member
What the heck does the description for the phantom spd mean? I can't understand it and I don't think it's a valid sentence even.

Who is a better horse team member Frederick or Titania? One has a higher defense and attack but lacks res while the other is a wall against mages.
 

OVDRobo

Member
What the heck does the description for the phantom spd mean? I can't understand it and I don't think it's a valid sentence even.

Who is a better horse team member Frederick or Titania? One has a higher defense and attack but lacks res while the other is a wall against mages.

Titania's usually the better choice in my experience because she still has decent defense and has good res. Frederick's great at tanking physical hits but melts under almost any magical pressure.

The description of Phantom Speed is described a couple of posts above yours, but basically it only currently works with the skills Windsweep and Watersweep which are naturally available on Alm and Soren only afaik. When the game compares any skills that use speed as the basis for determining their effect, it adds 5 to the overall calculated total. It's practically useless in the current game but there's a chance they'll release more characters with new skills that compare speed which will be affected by it.
 

Krorg

Member
I've tried using Alm with windsweep but it's not worth it when it fills a B skill slot. Hopefully phantom speed will make it worth using instead of the usual skills that get equipped.
 

spiritfox

Member
What the heck does the description for the phantom spd mean? I can't understand it and I don't think it's a valid sentence even.

Who is a better horse team member Frederick or Titania? One has a higher defense and attack but lacks res while the other is a wall against mages.

They fill different roles. Frederick's a Brave user that can delete non-reds but cannot take magic attacks, while Titania's a specialist whose main job is to tank blue and green mages (and kill them with Distant Counter). You should pick whoever fills the gap in your party better.
 

Busaiku

Member
Phantom Speed will be amazing on Robin, Roderick, and Cordelia.
Firesweep Lance+ with them lets you go +Attack and you can still double most Blues. Or +Speed Deathblow. Heck, even +Attack Deathblow will still give lots of doubles.
It'll basically be like Brave Lance+ with 7 more Attack for them, in most situations.

Oh Gods, and Cordelia and Gaius with Firesweep Bow+ and Deathblow...
You get 1 more Attack than Life and Death, and keep the Speed, without losing bulk.
 

ggx2ac

Member
Phantom Speed will be amazing on Robin, Roderick, and Cordelia.
Firesweep Lance+ with them lets you go +Attack and you can still double most Blues. Or +Speed Deathblow.
Heck, even +Attack Deathblow will still give lots of doubles.
It'll basically be like Brave Lance+ with 7 more Attack for them, in most situations.

Oh Gods, and Cordelia and Gaius with Firesweep Bow+ and Deathblow...
You get 1 more Attack than Life and Death, and keep the Speed, without losing bulk.

I think you are misunderstanding Phantom Spd Seal, Windsweep and Watersweep use it when you are attacked by someone with those skills (I'm referring to using PSS defensively so that you don't get hit by -sweep.) or if you have those skills and attack someone.

Firesweep weapons make the enemy or you not counterattack regardless.

If anything, using Firesweep and Windsweep means you'd be kneecapping yourself because you'll only get to do one attack and no follow-up which Firesweep allows you to do a follow-up if you are faster than the enemy.
 

Busaiku

Member
Yeah, I guess I am.
Thought it just gave you 5 Speed if you used a Sweep or if someone uses it on you.
If it doesn't work with Firesweep weapons, then yeah, it sucks.
 
I think you are misunderstanding Phantom Spd Seal, Windsweep and Watersweep use it when you are attacked by someone with those skills (I'm referring to using PSS defensively so that you don't get hit by -sweep.) or if you have those skills and attack someone.

Firesweep weapons make the enemy or you not counterattack regardless.

If anything, using Firesweep and Windsweep means you'd be kneecapping yourself because you'll only get to do one attack and no follow-up which Firesweep allows you to do a follow-up if you are faster than the enemy.

I think that Phantom Speed will be useful for story content, but it's useless for Arena.
 

ggx2ac

Member
I think that Phantom Speed will be useful for story content, but it's useless for Arena.

Hard hitting characters that are slow and Brave weapon users would benefit well from Phantom Spd Seal when using Windsweep/Watersweep in arena or a defense team in arena.

But that's just me.

Edit: Just went to check to make sure, Windsweep/Watersweep are the only skills that negate vantage.

Edit 2: One of the most dangerous things in Arena is a Hector with Bonfire/Ignis. If he has Vantage as well, you're screwed most of the time.

Having a character with Windsweep that is faster than Hector would save your ass.
 

Sushen

Member
They fill different roles. Frederick's a Brave user that can delete non-reds but cannot take magic attacks, while Titania's a specialist whose main job is to tank blue and green mages (and kill them with Distant Counter). You should pick whoever fills the gap in your party better.
I'll be replacing Camus with this unit to tank enemy units in maps where enemy won't move until we go into their range first. Considering the popularity of mages, probably I'm leaning toward Titania but her attack seems lacking.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Yeah, I guess I am.
Thought it just gave you 5 Speed if you used a Sweep or if someone uses it on you.
If it doesn't work with Firesweep weapons, then yeah, it sucks.

I feel IS will make alternative Sweep weapons at some point that have the same condition as Wind and Water Sweep.
 

spiritfox

Member
I'll be replacing Camus with this unit to tank enemy units in maps where enemy won't move until we go into their range first. Considering the popularity of mages, probably I'm leaning toward Titania but her attack seems lacking.

Throw Iceberg on her and she's pretty decent. Besides, most mages have shitty defenses, so unless it's a Boey or Merric she'll be able to counter kill them.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
So in case you guys ever wondered, if you don't claim a reward before it expires, you can no longer get it, and you do not just auto collect it. Good bye 100 feathers.
 

Ninferno

Member
Damn, more SoV units are coming but I have blown lots of orbs on the Nino banner. God dammit, should have known!

Also, this will probably mean the next arena season will have 6 focus units in the bonus char set. Based on past experience, the additional two slots will come at the expense of the 2 daily HB units. Therefore, Virion and Cecilia will have to wait for 2 weeks.
 

MicH

Member
Wow, more SoV characters :eek: I need Gray for that sword valor skill!

I hope Sonya is good because I need a green mage badly
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Wait a damn second, are the Slaying weapons litterally just buffed Killing weapons? Killing Edge and Slaying Edge seem to do the exact same thing , but Slaying Edge has +3 attack.
 
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