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Firefighter Says Saving One Dog Is More Important Than A Million N____
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is another example of people believing that "second chance" really means "just reload the last save from your first chance and continue like nothing ever happened."
Which isn't how second chances work.
It's like - I get that people's misplaced empathy in these situations leads them to put themselves in the shoes of the repugnant idiot racist (or the sexual offender, or the drunk driver, or the sexual harasser, etc. etc.) and then entertain the scenario in terms of "Would my friends abandon me? I'd hope they wouldn't. I'd hope they'd stick around and let me know I was loved," and then proceeding from there like "C'mon guys, give em a chance!"
And that's understandable, yeah. But it's also selfish, and it's primarily seeking reassurance that despite your (hypothetical) idiocy people still like you, and that's not even the question here, nor is it fucking important to the topic at hand, either. It's turning a story about something seriously wrong into a what-if where you get reassured that people think you're okay down deep.
That ignores the concepts of personal responsibility and forgiveness.
And that's almost always behind this "second chance" bullshit when it's trotted out like this.
Racism isn't an opinion you give equal time to, nobody's fucking entitled to it, and your second chance in life doesn't mean you get to just start right back where you left off, you're just a little sorrier about it.
That's just the long way round to completely ducking responsibility and getting a fucking hug for it from your enablers.
Not your friends. Your enablers.
Which isn't how second chances work.
It's like - I get that people's misplaced empathy in these situations leads them to put themselves in the shoes of the repugnant idiot racist (or the sexual offender, or the drunk driver, or the sexual harasser, etc. etc.) and then entertain the scenario in terms of "Would my friends abandon me? I'd hope they wouldn't. I'd hope they'd stick around and let me know I was loved," and then proceeding from there like "C'mon guys, give em a chance!"
And that's understandable, yeah. But it's also selfish, and it's primarily seeking reassurance that despite your (hypothetical) idiocy people still like you, and that's not even the question here, nor is it fucking important to the topic at hand, either. It's turning a story about something seriously wrong into a what-if where you get reassured that people think you're okay down deep.
That ignores the concepts of personal responsibility and forgiveness.
And that's almost always behind this "second chance" bullshit when it's trotted out like this.
Racism isn't an opinion you give equal time to, nobody's fucking entitled to it, and your second chance in life doesn't mean you get to just start right back where you left off, you're just a little sorrier about it.
That's just the long way round to completely ducking responsibility and getting a fucking hug for it from your enablers.
Not your friends. Your enablers.
I'd take it a step further and say a lot of people have more sympathy for animals in general. This is just a racist dude who attached his "opinion" to it.
SolarPowered
Member
That ain't a fucking opinion, lady. It's a perfectly good excuse to shun your husband's ass from society.
Queen Vulpix
Member
The only thing he's probably sorry for is that he was caught. Sadly almost always seems to be the case
racism is like trying on a new hat
It's crazy how wrong penny arcade ended up being.
They weren't fuckwads because of anonymity. They were and are just fuckwads period.
Post-2008 I think you just substitute "black president" for "anonymity" or "audience" and the formula still works.
QuantumSquid
Member
So according to them, white people deserve a second chance, but black people don't deserve even a single chance if there are dogs to save instead.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Jesus fucking Christ
That story always pisses me off to no end.
I mean, it would be just as bad had he said "black people" or whatever.
unless you're a Democratic senator
Carnby
Member
The following year, it was revealed the confession was fake, if I remember correctly.
...NOT that I'm dismissing your point.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Those threads don't happen anymore still, do they?
Fuckin ugh.
Fuckin ugh.
Oh cool. I used to live in Franklin. I actually live 20 minutes away from there. Glad to see it's in the news again after the Confederate statue thing blew up after some people in town rallied around it after finding out one had existed there for decades.
Real quality people in Franklin, OH.
Real quality people in Franklin, OH.
Insane it needs to be said that racism isn't an opinion you're entitled to. If you're a public servant, especially emergency services, law enforcement or elected official, it should be grounds for immediate termination. You can't be trusted to do your job for all that need you, regardless of their skin color.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Oh man, that's a relief hah. Thanks for that. I remembered this because of the OP. Though I don't doubt this type of stuff is possible, and may happen. I'm just glad this one isn't real.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Probably throws white paint on it
Khaos Kontrol
Banned
My state making me proud :/
MegaManTrigger
Banned
When did "both sides/opinionsssss" become about absolving people of consequences?
He should absolutely be fired. This kind of thinking can have an effect on how biased he is when it comes to saving someone vs. "lol idc he's black no one will know."
He should absolutely be fired. This kind of thinking can have an effect on how biased he is when it comes to saving someone vs. "lol idc he's black no one will know."
innervision961
Member
I bet he stands for the anthem though!
Saint Gregory
Member
Thanks again Fox Fucking News.
Not like it excuses his behavior, but the images of him in a firefighter uniform on his Facebook page show him having some sort of "Explorer" rank. In our volunteer department, this would be the equivalent of being a Cadet, aka "pimple faced intern."
I only point this out because there was some implied cross talk about him being a public servant, like he's a full time firefighter or an officer or something.
At least his shitty rank in a volunteer department will likely mean he's out the door quickly after this event and there won't be anyone motivated to stick up for him.
I only point this out because there was some implied cross talk about him being a public servant, like he's a full time firefighter or an officer or something.
At least his shitty rank in a volunteer department will likely mean he's out the door quickly after this event and there won't be anyone motivated to stick up for him.
He didn't say "HIS" dog...he says A dog....over a MILLION other ____
Discotheque
Banned
Well he sounds like he's worth less than pond scum so whatever
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I know what he said, hes a dickwad.
I'm still saving my dog before you. I'll come back for you after Harley is safe though.
And Harley will probably help me save your ass btw.
Aaron Strife
Banned
It's ok, I'd save a dog before I'd save his racist ass too
Maybe he was talking about Norwegian chocolate
Maybe he was talking about Norwegian chocolate
Free speech was a mistake. Can we just make racism illegal to the point of jail time. Kind of tired of being afraid living in my own country right about now; where even emergency persons may not save my life and are free to have their own 'opinions' on if I'm worth more than that of a dog or not.
Think I'd rather live in a country where people can be locked up for racist/bigoted/etc beliefs than fear walking down the street each day for being who I am.
Think I'd rather live in a country where people can be locked up for racist/bigoted/etc beliefs than fear walking down the street each day for being who I am.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Wow...he didn't even get a chance to be labeled, "Hot Firefighter" before all this happened!
Shadow Puppetry
Member
"he said things that were wrong and apologized"
He effin knew it was wrong but still said it anyway, so no second chance.
He effin knew it was wrong but still said it anyway, so no second chance.
Yeah, the reality is the inverse. Take a fuckwad, remove their anonymity, add societal consequences, and you get a normal person.It's crazy how wrong penny arcade ended up being.
They weren't fuckwads because of anonymity. They were and are just fuckwads period.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
I was about to hit like and share it on FB til I read further.
Velcro Fly
Member
Well at least he isn't a cop (yet)
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I don't understand how someone who puts their life on the line to save people can be so fucking vile. It's not like the police who get to power trip, or doctors who are in it for the money. You would think that firefighters would have a certain minimum of empathy.
Getting torpedoed through to be one he's already too overqualified
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