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First box office bomb of 2005! And the winner issssss.....

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DMczaf

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http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=sahara.htm

SAHARA

Domestic: $26,961,000 87.0%
+ Overseas: $4,033,398 13.0%
= Worldwide: $30,994,398

Production Budget: $130 million

SAHARA003.jpg
 

COCKLES

being watched
Whoever named it Sahara should have been shot.

Should have had an Indyesque poster with THE ADVENTURES OF DIRK PITT. As has been pointed out, the Ishtaresque promos were probably the death kneel.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
G4life98 said:
Im surprised...i thought it was a good watch that kept my attention the whole way through.

Yeah I thought it was interesting enough... I generally don't have trouble with convenient things helping out the hero's in movies... but Sahara tested that... tested it ALOT.
 

Odnetnin

Banned
did you guys even see the trailer. So uninteresting. And I must say Mccoughney is not the action hero lead - I kept wishing they made Steve Zahn the hero instead.
 

ShadowRed

Banned
COCKLES said:
Whoever named it Sahara should have been shot.

Should have had an Indyesque poster with THE ADVENTURES OF DIRK PITT. As has been pointed out, the Ishtaresque promos were probably the death kneel.




Well it was named after the book it is based on.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
yeah, Mathew McCounahoweveryouspellit seems like a cool guy.. but he just doesnt scream action star. I mean, that movie with the dragons was going to suck anyway, but he just didnt strike me as the bad ass he was supposed to be...

the highlight of his career is still Dazed and Confused.
 

Jim Bowie

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ShadowRed said:
Well it was named after the book it is based on.

Well, then the author should be shot. The best he could come up with was "Sahara"? Honestly. That's like naming your book "Monster" because the main villain is a monster or naming a romance novel "Love".

Speaking of Sahara, though, I'm not surprised it bombed, even with Steve Zahn. They're about two months early to release the feel-good action comedy even of the summer.
 

MC Safety

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I saw it and didn't think it was terrible.

Except for Penelope Cruz, that is. It's like she had the acting talent surgically removed from her body.
 
McCounahoweveryouspellit really can't carry a movie on his own, so I think it was a good concept, but miscast.

Bruce Willis, Brendan Fraser (type casting I know), Will Smith, Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, etc. etc.

probably would've been better suited for a movie like this. Then again, they also probably would've asked for more money.

Its doing decent box office. I still would be interested in seeing it actually since I like good ol' fashioned adventure films. Penelope Cruz can't really act in her English language stuff, but I'll be damned if she doesn't have one of the finest natural bodies in Hollywood.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
It didn't really help that the movie trailer is just ALL over the place and doesn't really paint a good picture of what type of movie this is...
 

belgurdo

Banned
Jim Bowie said:
Well, then the author should be shot. The best he could come up with was "Sahara"? Honestly. That's like naming your book "Monster" because the main villain is a monster or naming a romance novel "Love".

Try actually reading the book before attempting to be funny. Calling it "Sahara" barely even scratches the surface of what it's about
 

Jim Bowie

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soundwave05 said:
Brendan Fraser... probably would've been better suited for a movie like this. Then again, [he] also probably would've asked for more money.

I dunno about that, man. The last two movies he was in (A little-known movie called Crash and that Looney Tunes movie) crashed hard, so he may be hard up for money :D
 
Jim Bowie said:
I dunno about that, man. The last two movies he was in (A little-known movie called Crash and that Looney Tunes movie) crashed hard, so he may be hard up for money :D


I've heard that Stallone still asks (and gets apparently) $20 million for each movie, even the last few which went straight to video.

Wasn't Brendan Fraser in some other movie which was half-animated about 2-3 years ago? That one looked horrible too (and flopped).

He must be really banking on The Mummy 3 script showing up on his doorstep.
 

Gantz

Banned
The previews for the movie were horrible. I got to see a free screening of it last week and pleasantly surprised. Definitely a pre-summer popcorn movie to check out. Penelope Cruz was yum.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Has Brenden Frazer (SP?) really been in any huge movies outside of the mummy ones? I know he has been in some sorta bigish ones before, but that guy has been in a ton of stinkers.. I mean he's been in I dont know how many old cartoon to movie remakes at this point. And that Foust remake that was actually really funny... well, and airheads, which rocks but I dont think it made money.

The other half animated one he was in was monkeybone.. which wasnt good, but had its own charm to it.
 

lordmrw

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Monkeybone also has the pleasure of being one of the biggest flops of all time:

Domestic Gross: $5,411,999
Opening Weekend: $2,685,078

Production Budget: $75 million

Sweet jesus, how did the man continue getting work?
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
lordmrw said:
Monkeybone also has the pleasure of being one of the biggest flops of all time:

Domestic Gross: $5,411,999
Opening Weekend: $2,685,078

Production Budget: $75 million

Sweet jesus, how did the man continue getting work?

Wait, someone thought that movie would make back 75 million? Holy Jesus, its about a cartoonists body being taken over by one of his charachters, complete with Brenden Fraser doing monkey sex dance ritual. I thought that movie cost 10 million tops.
 
StoOgE said:
Has Brenden Frazer (SP?) really been in any huge movies outside of the mummy ones? I know he has been in some sorta bigish ones before, but that guy has been in a ton of stinkers.. I mean he's been in I dont know how many old cartoon to movie remakes at this point. And that Foust remake that was actually really funny... well, and airheads, which rocks but I dont think it made money.

The other half animated one he was in was monkeybone.. which wasnt good, but had its own charm to it.
Encino Man!
 

Matt

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Brenden Fraser is a pretty good actor IMO. He just need more moves like School Ties and The Quiet American, not Monkeybone.
 
Thing is in Hollywood, if you have one huge hit, studios will let you slide even if you do 3-4 stinkers.

Honestly though I think I'll check out Sahara this weekend. I'm the mood for a "pre-summer" kind of movie (meh to all these horror films) and this one seems to be getting reasonably decent reviews.
 

Jim Bowie

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StoOgE said:
I dont count Pauli Shore movies as actually being movies. Buddy.

You misspelled Buddy. It's spelled Buuuuuuuuuudeee~.

He was in Blast to the Past, a movie I like as a guilty pleasure. He was great in both Mummy movies, The Quiet American (as was said)... I even liked Monkeybone a bit. Less for the monkey and more for the Fraser. He's generally really good.
 

borghe

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actually sahara won't bomb.. the movie did take $130M to produce, but no April premiere movie will gross $130M domestically and probably just barely make it worldwide also (still hasn't opened in much of the world).

It is actually performing pretty typically for an April movie..

the bigger question is why are they making $130M movies that premiere in April?
 
Drozmight said:
I liked Monkeybone... :(

As did I. Come to think of it, I own three of the last 4 movies I've seen him in.. Mummy, Mummy Returns, and MonkeyBone (got it for $3) I own.. and they're all pretty good.. I don't own the Looney Tunes one, even though it really wasn't that bad. Pretty decent as well.
 
How badly did Final Fantasy bomb at the box office? Wasn't the budget some crazy number like around 200 million and it only made around 20 or 30 million back?
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Biglesworth23 said:
How badly did Final Fantasy bomb at the box office? Wasn't the budget some crazy number like around 200 million and it only made around 20 or 30 million back?

167 million dollar budget (including marketing) and it pulled in 85 million gross. It looks like more of a bomb overall because it really tanked in the U.S., but made like 70% of its money internationally.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Biglesworth23 said:
God damn, I own that movie too. What the hell am I? Do I unknowingly just purchase Brendon Fraser movies? WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ME?

as long as you dont own Dudley Dooright, your ok.
 
StoOgE said:
167 million dollar budget (including marketing) and it pulled in 85 million gross. It looks like more of a bomb overall because it really tanked in the U.S., but made like 70% of its money internationally.

Eh, that's not as bad as I thought then. Didn't realize it made a bit more internationally. I also just realized I have not seen all of it.. saw like the first hour..
 
Ash Housewares said:
deep sea diving in the bargain bin at WalMart eh?

no surprise you come up with alot of Fraser movies

Actually, I think Bedazzled was the only one I got from "The Bin of Shit" (usually.. although I have found Hot Shots in there, so it can't be all bad). Monkey Bone used to be(still might be) really cheap preowned on EB's website and I actually enjoyed both the Mummy movies quite a bit, so I probably paid around $15 to $20 at the time for those.


StoOgE said:
as long as you dont own Dudley Dooright, your ok.

Nope, don't own it. Haven't seen it either, thankfully.
 
belgurdo said:
Try actually reading the book before attempting to be funny. Calling it "Sahara" barely even scratches the surface of what it's about
The author actually really hates the movie. Enough to sue them for ruining it. :lol :lol :lol
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/30172004.htm
Sahara Author Sues Producers
February 17, 2005, 7:10:09
Sahara

SAHARA AUTHOR SUES OVER SCREENPLAY

Best-selling author CLIVE CUSSLER is suing the billionaire movie producer of PENELOPE CRUZ's latest movie for refusing to give him screenplay approval.

The SAHARA writer is taking legal action against oil magnate PHILIP ANSCHUTZ's BRISTOL BAY PRODUCTIONS over the $130 million ($247 million) film version for failing to consult him on the script as stipulated in his contract, reports FOX NEWS correspondent ROGER FRIEDMAN.
A Bristol Bay Productions spokesperson tells gossip website, PAGESIX.COM, "Clive Cussler's lawsuit is completely groundless.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
wait, the Mummy 2 sucked, how can you defend it? It was marginal at best, and then platic rock showed up at the end looking like shit. that sunk it completely.

The original, however, rocks.
 
StoOgE said:
wait, the Mummy 2 sucked, how can you defend it? It was marginal at best, and then platic rock showed up at the end looking like shit. that sunk it completely.

The original, however, rocks.

The Mummy was an overall better and more consistent movie and with better character development, but the Mummy Returns was also good because you get those characters and like 2 hours of action. That movie is just non-stop action. I don't find a problem with that, though. :)

Yeah, big Scorpion Rock didn't look too good though.. eek..

EDIT: But I did like the Rock's other earlier sequences.. pretty good, I thought..

Even though the first time I saw this movie, it was in a theatre.. and there was no one else there.. so me and my brother sit down to watch it, and all of a sudden.. BAM.. the movie's on, no previews, nothing, just Fraser and Weisz running down a hallway in some tomb, and i'm like "What the F is going on here..". They started the movie a bit of the way through.. didn't even see any of the Rock stuff (until the scorpion thing at the end)..
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
CrystalGemini said:
The author actually really hates the movie. Enough to sue them for ruining it. :lol :lol :lol
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/30172004.htm
It's funny because from what I've read Cussler got $10 million for the option for all 18 of these novels and then an additional $10 million for each film that gets made. So he pulled in $20 million on this one film and still attacks the producers.

Oh, and this thread reminds me, I need to buy Monkeybone. I've seen it for pretty damn cheap. I haven't actually seen the movie yet, but it's by Henry Selick, so at the very least I can expect some pretty cool animation.
 

FoneBone

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Jim Bowie said:
I dunno about that, man. The last two movies he was in (A little-known movie called Crash and that Looney Tunes movie) crashed hard, so he may be hard up for money :D
Er, Crash is an indie film, and it hasn't been released yet.
 

Matlock

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Sahara was funded by the same group that funded Around the World in 80 Days.

Apparently they don't give a shit about losing money.
 

Jim Bowie

Member
FoneBone said:
Er, Crash is an indie film, and it hasn't been released yet.

Are you sure? I could have sworn I saw an article about Crash bombing. It said, "Crash crash", and I remember thinking that was a horrid tagline, which is why it stuck out in my head.

I may be wrong.
 
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